2021.12.14 07:00 - Michael Nesmith and there is no IS

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.


       --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: Good Morning Adams ㋡
    Adams Dubrovna: good morning Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: it is Raining here YaY
    Riddle Sideways: still dark
    Adams Dubrovna: yes, J heard California is getting heacy rain and snow
    Adams Dubrovna: haevy
    Adams Dubrovna: heavy
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡
    Adams Dubrovna: and the Donner Pass is piled high
    Riddle Sideways: the settlers are stranded
    Riddle Sideways: not heard|read any news yet


    Riddle Sideways: nice outfit changes
    Riddle Sideways: what period is this one?
    Adams Dubrovna: thank you
    Adams Dubrovna: this is an Indian outfit - no period mentioned
    Riddle Sideways: tried to change a t-shirt today. It was easier to replace the whole body
    Adams Dubrovna: oh my


    Riddle Sideways: A monkee died Friday
    Adams Dubrovna: yes.you were at the Video ranch, yes?
    Riddle Sideways: remembered having this shirt
    Adams Dubrovna: with Pema
    Adams Dubrovna: doing qwak
    Riddle Sideways: yes, spent much time in VR3D
    Adams Dubrovna: so you knew Michael?
    Riddle Sideways: yes, but did not meet Pema when he did the talks in VR3d
    Riddle Sideways: not until qwaq
    Riddle Sideways: read the Pema talk sessions though, from the times he was there
    Riddle Sideways: peaked the interest
    Riddle Sideways: Was pretty good bet that anybody Nez said "Get to Know them' was a good thing
       --BELL--
    Adams Dubrovna: he said to get to know Qwaq
    Adams Dubrovna: ???
    Riddle Sideways: no not really
    Riddle Sideways: said to hear Piet
    Adams Dubrovna: wow
    Riddle Sideways: VR3D even had a little cabin on a nice pond named for him
    Riddle Sideways: more of a Hut
    Adams Dubrovna: Piet?
    Riddle Sideways: when no music and dancing were going on, would go sit on the dock of Piets Hut and be still
    Adams Dubrovna: :)


    Riddle Sideways: read that his new thing was the Ways of Knowing
    Riddle Sideways: that sounded just right
    Riddle Sideways: I could dig it
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Riddle Sideways: that turned very serious study
    Adams Dubrovna: yes siree
    Riddle Sideways: and deep presentations
    Riddle Sideways: slide decks of presentations
    Riddle Sideways: neuro science
    Adams Dubrovna: you can't get to level 3 while playing fiddle-de-dee
    Riddle Sideways: Then it was mentioned that we might go 'Okay'
    Riddle Sideways: Play even
    Adams Dubrovna: I think Steven liked qwaq better han SL
    Riddle Sideways: think so too
    Riddle Sideways: not sure which Maxine and (Doug?) and others liked
    Adams Dubrovna: Dug too?
    Riddle Sideways: Eliza too, maybe
    Adams Dubrovna: did not know about Doug
    Adams Dubrovna: Eliza???
    Riddle Sideways: probably have the wrong person/name
    Riddle Sideways: so long ago
    Adams Dubrovna: yes I think so
    Adams Dubrovna: she came to PaB cold
    Adams Dubrovna: would have had to be someone in first batch
    Riddle Sideways: then she backed up into WoK


    Riddle Sideways: not Storm. Storm was standing in SL waiting for us
    Adams Dubrovna: yes
    Riddle Sideways: Bill?
    Adams Dubrovna: along with Dakini
    Adams Dubrovna: I thought it was just Maxine, Piet, Steven and you
    Adams Dubrovna: I wonder what the Chronicles say
    Riddle Sideways: Yes. Dakini was waiting here in SL with a hut to sit in
    Riddle Sideways: oh! that would be like research and fact checking
       --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: opps, did a peek. Caledonia
    Adams Dubrovna: Caledonia makes sense

    Adams Dubrovna:

    Pema Pera: so with this orientation as a reminder, Stim, how is your "Is" similar or different from our "Being"?
    Stim Morane: I am not at all sure.
    Stim Morane: There really is no such thing as Is, or Being. This is because in the ordinary way of viewing things, they literally don't correspond to anything … and because in clear Seeing they are “empty”. So either way, they’re “nothing”.
    Stim Morane: Powerful nothings.
    Stim Morane: “Is” is a particular facet of reality available to one type of Seeing. Such Seeing, in turn, is revealed through Stopping. So Is and Seeing and Stopping are linked to each other and to Being.
    Stim Morane: Maybe we could say Is is the entry into Being, where Being is a much broader term.
    Stim Morane: :)
    Pema Pera: So in PaB, our attitude is to play, and specifically to play as if "all is Being" already, before we even try in any way to see that -- and our activity is to stop, to drop activities, frequently, in a gentle way, to ease into this powerful Nothing
    Stim Morane: If so, that is a perfectly legitimate and interesting new approach
    Pema Pera: play as Being -> stop -> drop -> see -> see Being (let Being see)
    Stim Morane: I see. Well why not? P

    Riddle Sideways: Thank you so much for that quoting
    Riddle Sideways: wonder if that is the first 'See Being' and/or 'Being See'
    Riddle Sideways: reference
    Adams Dubrovna: I do not know


    Riddle Sideways: aww, the revered Egyptian bunny
    Riddle Sideways: photo op. with new sleepy bunny too
    Adams Dubrovna: /smile


    Riddle Sideways: What is really So Great about Playing, is the ability/form to super fast shifts from deep serius to light funny
    Adams Dubrovna: "Be all that you can be. Join PaB"
    Riddle Sideways: From there is no IS to aww cute bunny
    Adams Dubrovna: That would make a good title
    Adams Dubrovna: or poster
    Riddle Sideways: to remembering the lost part of history where bunnies were gods of cuteness to the whole world
    Riddle Sideways: probably futility godesses too
    Adams Dubrovna: fertility?
    Riddle Sideways: right
    Adams Dubrovna: I dodn't mean to distratc from serious but I did
    Riddle Sideways: or a cute typo
       --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: just for completion... Caledonia mentions Zenon, Davina, Bob M and Karen in WoK
    Adams Dubrovna: I met Bob M in RL
    Riddle Sideways: the names get mixed up, because WoK-qwaq used real names and SL got one to make up something
    Adams Dubrovna: yes
    Adams Dubrovna: and so we all became Adamses
    Adams Dubrovna: including the bunny
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡ yes
    Riddle Sideways: see that
    Riddle Sideways: an Adams did a great job on the chronicles
    Adams Dubrovna: Barny's niece

    Riddle Sideways: as is the personal tradition lately, when an artist dies, is to spend a late evening going through lots of youTubes
    Riddle Sideways: there were some video ranch interviews saved
    Riddle Sideways: well not on youTube
    Riddle Sideways: Nez had so much Play in each sentence
    Riddle Sideways: yet much was so deep
    Riddle Sideways: used some vocabulary words that no other song lyrics ever tried to
    Riddle Sideways: would be good to have a few examples here, but alas ...
    Riddle Sideways: Later, he did 'The Prisoner'
    Riddle Sideways: which was a book with a sound track
    Riddle Sideways: one of those deep thought-ful looks at the human condition
    Riddle Sideways: then became a trilogy (not sure how many)
       --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: There were so many facets to people who were Nez.
    Riddle Sideways: reading FB comments of how he was remember for Being
    Riddle Sideways: there are no recordings of Douglas Adams (yet another Adams) and Michael talking
    Riddle Sideways: wish there were
    Riddle Sideways: so many philosophers that get labeled comedians
    Riddle Sideways: Even Scott Adams (yet another Adams) is deep and funny

    Adams Dubrovna: well it is time to go anyway
    Riddle Sideways: yet time to region restart
    Adams Dubrovna: take good care Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: have your best day
    Adams Dubrovna: bye
    Riddle Sideways: by All

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