2010.06.15 13:00 - Popper don't preach...

The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments (such as they are) are by Agatha Macbeth.

Wol Euler: hello aggers
Agatha Macbeth: Well hello there
Wol Euler waves
Agatha Macbeth: I'm on the box again :)
Wol Euler: you're looking very sportxy
Wol Euler: -x
Agatha Macbeth: xx :)
Wol Euler: not quite sure if those are hte right shoes for soccer though :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, you're rezzing
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Wol Euler: brb, tea
Wol Euler: hello yaku
Agatha Macbeth: Now where are the tops...
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Yaku
Wol Euler: much better :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey beauty´s
Wol Euler beams
Yakuzza Lethecus: just as oon way through as usually
Agatha Macbeth: Oh

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: That's it!
Agatha Macbeth: Hi SSL :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Agatha, hi Wol
Wol Euler: hello sharon
Agatha Macbeth: How are you?
Wol Euler: cheerful
SophiaSharon Larnia: me?
Agatha Macbeth: Either!
SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
Wol Euler: hello liza
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Liza
SophiaSharon Larnia: cheerful, and finally get to sit down in rl, yay :)
Liza Deischer: hi
Agatha Macbeth: The lady with the log...:)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Liza
Liza Deischer: it is Tuesday isn't it?
Agatha Macbeth: (Nothing to do with Twin Peaks)
Liza Deischer: yep, sorry need to go :)
Agatha Macbeth waves
Wol Euler: oooh, yes, great reference
SophiaSharon Larnia: aww bye Liza :)
Wol Euler: bye liza, enjoy the day
SophiaSharon Larnia: (look great btw!!)
Wol Euler: I thought "log woman" but couldn't get to Twin Peaks
Agatha Macbeth: Can't people work out what day it is before they get here?
Agatha Macbeth: Ha!
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha I forget a lot too
Agatha Macbeth: Who killed Laura Palmer
Wol Euler: Man, why does shit get repeated endlessly, but great programmes like Twin Peaks don't?
Wol Euler: 42
Agatha Macbeth: Y indeed?
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe shit is just ubiquitous
Agatha Macbeth: Or something...
Agatha Macbeth: Wasn't Laura played by Suzi Quatro's neice, or was that someone else?
SophiaSharon Larnia googles ubiquitous, and agrees ^^
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zon
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zon
Agatha Macbeth: You ok Zon?
Zon Quar: hm
Zon Quar: hard to say
Agatha Macbeth: I know that feeling
Wol Euler: hello zon
SophiaSharon Larnia: brb one sec :)
Zon Quar: do i look starnge ?
Agatha Macbeth zooms in
Agatha Macbeth: No more than usual! :)
Wol Euler: your eyebrows are a bit exaggerated
Wol Euler: but otherwise I'd say no
Zon Quar: let me see
Agatha Macbeth: Eyes are very blue
Zon Quar: true
Wol Euler: wow, hello myna, haven't seen you in ages
Agatha Macbeth: Hairy chest...
Myna Maven: Yes, it's been a while.
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Myna :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Myna
Myna Maven: Hi Sophia, Agatha, Zon.
Myna Maven: And Wol. :)
Wol Euler: :)

Zon stands up to edit his appearance

Agatha Macbeth: (Now what's he up to?)
SophiaSharon Larnia: thinks Zons av looks great
Agatha Macbeth: What is it we are supposed to notice I wonder?

I begin to receive strange IMs from Kira...

[2010/06/15 13:09]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Didn't get the notice about the Popper class, i could have re-arranged my own so as to not conflict
[2010/06/15 13:10]  Wol Euler: oh right, there we are
[2010/06/15 13:11]  Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, conflict of schedule does neither group any good
[2010/06/15 13:11]  Kiki Walpanheim: (popper is in philosophy class, or kira is having it too?)
[2010/06/15 13:12]  Rhiannon Dragoone: don't know, but that would explain why i didn't know; thought herman's was on Thurs
[2010/06/15 13:12]  Rhiannon Dragoone: someone told me it was kira, kiki
[2010/06/15 13:13]  Kiki Walpanheim: herman's class is on each tuesday as well as thursday, popper for tonight
[2010/06/15 13:13]  Kiki Walpanheim: (or today)
[2010/06/15 13:14]  Yakuzza Lethecus: i didn´t tell you that it´s on kira :)
[2010/06/15 13:15]  Yakuzza Lethecus: i said: and i am on kira :)
[2010/06/15 13:18]  Kiki Walpanheim: tho the alt is in philosophy class
[2010/06/15 13:19]  Rhiannon Dragoone: well, all this explains why i am only 150% above the norm in attendence, rather than 400%  And i thought it was that i hadn't showered
[2010/06/15 13:20]  Mickorod Renard: hello

Agatha Macbeth: What's a Popper class?
Myna Maven: I was wondering.
SophiaSharon Larnia: I stepped away for one sec and totally lost the thread ^^ Presently noticing dust particles floating through a sun beam
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Zon Quar: no. didnt find eybrows setting
Zon Quar: must be content waht i have
Agatha Macbeth: They look fine Zon
Wol Euler: did someone say Popper Class? (other than agatha)
Agatha Macbeth: Someone in IM
Wol Euler: ah
Myna Maven: Right. Saw it in the IM briefly.
Agatha Macbeth: From Kira...
Zon Quar: what class is it about ?
Agatha Macbeth: I know not
Wol Euler: probably Karl Popper, I'd guess
Agatha Macbeth: ??
Wol Euler: late british austrian philosopher
Myna Maven: OK.
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, don't know him I'm afraid
Myna Maven: Neither do I.
Wol Euler: "He is widely regarded[3] as one of the greatest philosophers of science of the 20th century;[4] he also wrote extensively on social and political philosophy. Popper is known for his attempt to repudiate the classical observationalist/inductivist account of scientific method by advancing empirical falsification instead, for his opposition to the classical justificationist account of knowledge which he replaced with critical rationalism, "the first non justificational philosophy of criticism in the history of philosophy"[5], and for his vigorous defense of liberal democracy and the principles of social criticism that he came to believe made a flourishing "open society" possible."
Agatha Macbeth: I'll give Birric or Gilles a ring about him :)
Zon Quar: hm
Zon Quar: too complicated
Agatha Macbeth: Who's Herman?
Agatha Macbeth: Munster?
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles at Zon
Agatha Macbeth: well, somebody appears not to know what they are talking about
Agatha Macbeth: weird
SophiaSharon Larnia: I know what the words mean, but put them together like that and my head wants to explode
Agatha Macbeth: 'Whose class is it anyway?'
Agatha Macbeth: :))
Wol Euler: boom boom
Agatha Macbeth: N. Korea just scored against Brasil
Wol Euler struggles to contain her enthusiasm
Zon Quar: so its 1-1 ?
Agatha Macbeth: Still losing tho
Agatha Macbeth: No, 2-1 Brasil
Zon Quar: good

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
Wol Euler: wow, bleu is very exotic today
Myna Maven: Hi.
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: As always :)
Zon Quar: bleu
Bleu Oleander: exotic is good :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: keep dressing like that and I'll have to start doing it too ^^ wow wow

Me zooms in...

Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes, I *love* that
Agatha Macbeth: The hair's gorgeous too
Bleu Oleander: cool, i'm glad you do ....ty
Agatha Macbeth: Well, they wouldn't schedule something else at Kira at the same time as Dream Wokshop obviously (I would have thought)
Agatha Macbeth shrugs
Agatha Macbeth: Anyways...
Bleu Oleander: is the dream workshop on now?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Myna
Bleu Oleander: ah
Wol Euler: hallo bert
Bertram Jacobus: hello everybody :-)
Bleu Oleander: hi Bert
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Bert
Agatha Macbeth: Hi Berti :)
Zon Quar: bert
Bleu Oleander: so the non-dreamers are here?
SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Myna :)
Agatha Macbeth: Appears so
Bertram Jacobus: me - yes . a non dreamer ;-)
Myna Maven: Sorry. I was trying to get a closer look at Bleu and crashed. Am having problems with this.
Wol Euler: oops
Wol Euler: wb
SophiaSharon Larnia: a non-dreamer Bert?
SophiaSharon Larnia: aww Myna
Bleu Oleander: ooo caused a crash?
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Qt
Bertram Jacobus: hello myna and qt :-)
Qt Core: hi all!
Agatha Macbeth: Not dreaming as opposed to not doing
Zon Quar: me too, i only dream with my eyes open
Myna Maven: Hello Bertram.
SophiaSharon Larnia: wow Zon
Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera QT :)
Bertram Jacobus: i meaned : i don´t remember often my dreams and don´t go to this workshop ... ;-)
Qt Core: 'sera Agatha
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh ok Bert :))
Agatha Macbeth: You seem the type to be a dreamer to me Bert ;-)
Bertram Jacobus: why do you think that agatha ? :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Just a hunch
Agatha Macbeth: As Quasimodo said
Wol Euler sighs
Bertram Jacobus: hm - what may make a dreamer, what are the qualities ?
Agatha Macbeth: Dreaming?
Agatha Macbeth: :)
Bertram Jacobus: and why does wol sigh (?!) :-)
Wol Euler: asking questions
Agatha Macbeth: Oh she does that all the time
Wol Euler: it's true
Wol Euler: but particularly when Aggers is airing out her old joke cupboard :-P
Bertram Jacobus: what is true ? that dreamers ask questions ?
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
SophiaSharon Larnia: to say somene is a dreamer, may say someone is someone is an idealist, I'm not saying thats what Agatha meant about you, Bert, but in general
Agatha Macbeth: Do they?
Agatha Macbeth: 'You may say I'm a dreamer'
SophiaSharon Larnia: um that came out funny sorry
Agatha Macbeth: But I'm not the only one
Myna Maven: Over the years, I've a few times been confronted (I think, somewhat scornfully) the phrase, "Oh, an idealist!"
Myna Maven: "with" the phrase
Myna Maven: I recollect the first time, how odd that seeemed.
SophiaSharon Larnia: or a dreamer could be someone looking at only certain aspects of reality
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it's considered a crime to have ideas
Wol Euler: yeah
Agatha Macbeth: True Shaz, yes
Bleu Oleander: aspects of reality .... interesting phrase
SophiaSharon Larnia: yea awkward again, considering, what is reality anyway
Agatha Macbeth thinks of the phrase 'can of worms'

--BELL--

Bleu Oleander: saved by bell
Zon Quar: mus away go c ya
Agatha Macbeth: C ya zon
Wol Euler: bye zon, take care
Qt Core: bye Zon
Myna Maven: Bye.
Bleu Oleander: bye Zon
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Zon :)
Bertram Jacobus: bye zon (!) ... :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Has everyone put up a picture in the Village then?
Wol Euler: not yet
Bertram Jacobus: no
Qt Core: no
Agatha Macbeth: Aw, I was looking forward to yours Bert :0
Myna Maven: The Art of Being project? I saw it in an email but didn't have a chance to read about it.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes Myna
SophiaSharon Larnia: its much bigger than i thought yay!! So many added
Myna Maven: Can someone brief me on it?
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Wol Euler: it's over there behind us, we can have a look later
Agatha Macbeth: Well it's up in the Village Square if you wanna take alook
Myna Maven: I'm not going to move right now. If I do, I will probably crash.
Agatha Macbeth: In Storm's bubble :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ha
Bertram Jacobus: my ... requirements are too intense i fear agatha - and so ... i don ´t put one ... hm ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Mm, I see
Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
Bleu Oleander: sry afk .... back now .... thanks for bringing up the Being as Time project !
SophiaSharon Larnia: hahahhaa
Agatha Macbeth: stop
Bleu Oleander: is this friday?
Agatha Macbeth: My pleasure Bleu :)
Wol Euler turns down the sound to continue enjoying the Beatles' "Back in the USSR"
Wol Euler: White Album FTW.
Agatha Macbeth has it
Bleu Oleander: Pema is leading a special session next monday at 2pm on the project
Wol Euler: woooo
Bleu Oleander: I hope you will all come
Wol Euler: thanks for teh heads-up
Bertram Jacobus: * * HATSCHI * *
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, looking forward to it
Bertram Jacobus: (sry) :o)
Agatha Macbeth: Do they make TVs?
Bleu Oleander: (come even if you didn't do a photo)
Agatha Macbeth: No, that's Hitachi
Myna Maven: Reading one of the emails on it now. Will have to make it to the meeting and look at the photos.
Agatha Macbeth: Please do :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, will be a lot of fun
Qt Core: i wanted to ask, no explaining note card this time ?
Bleu Oleander: for each photo you mean?
Bleu Oleander: up to the artist to include one or not
Qt Core: yes
Qt Core: ok
Bleu Oleander: so come to the session :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Wol Euler: _=
Wol Euler: oops
Wol Euler: :)
Wol Euler: there-
Agatha Macbeth: I ching?
Qt Core: i'll try (watched some of the shots but haven't understood them)
Wol Euler: sloppy finger positioning
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Bleu Oleander: you can interpret the photos in your own way too
Agatha Macbeth: The eye of the beholder
Qt Core: poor photos ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: I think they're good!
Bleu Oleander: will be interesting to see what everyone thought about the theme and why they chose what they did to photograph
Wol Euler: I think he meant "unfortunate" :)

I KNOW !!! (rolls eyes)

Bleu Oleander: they're all very good I think
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Just teasing QT
Qt Core: ;)
Wol Euler: "la la how the life goes on" :)
Agatha Macbeth: Quite
Wol Euler: that might be time...

--BELL--

Wol Euler: hello CG
Bleu Oleander: hi
SophiaSharon Larnia: hi xxxxgirl
Agatha Macbeth: Hi CG
Myna Maven: Hello xxxxgirl.
Bertram Jacobus: hi cg :-)
Qt Core: hi xxxxgirl
SophiaSharon Larnia: have to go everyone, bye and have fun :))
Myna Maven: Bye.
Qt Core: bye ssl
xxxxgirl xxxx: hi bleu, sophia, Agatha, QT
Wol Euler: bye sharon, take care
Bertram Jacobus: bye sharon - be well
SophiaSharon Larnia: ~waves~
SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
Bertram Jacobus: :-)
Bleu Oleander: need to go too ... bye all :)
Wol Euler: bye bleu, enjoy the day
Myna Maven: Bye Bleu.
Bertram Jacobus: bye bleu
Agatha Macbeth: C ya Sharon and Bleu
xxxxgirl xxxx: oh i came late
Agatha Macbeth: NP :)
Wol Euler: no worries
Bertram Jacobus: np cg - and 5 aga ? :-)
Wol Euler: most sessions are pretty loose and informal
Qt Core: the others just plain crazy
Agatha Macbeth nods
Qt Core: ;)
Wol Euler: thank you QT <3
Wol Euler: you've made an old woman very happy :)
xxxxgirl xxxx: oh i see
Agatha Macbeth: He has?
xxxxgirl xxxx: really?
Wol Euler: mmhmm :) Indulging my little obsession

Maybe we shouldn't ask....

Qt Core: glad to be helpful ;-)
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: symmetry.
Wol Euler: we haz it

Oh, that

Agatha Macbeth: 'Help the Aged'
Agatha Macbeth: God, Ara's going on and off tonight
Agatha Macbeth: Perhaps they had another power prob there
Wol Euler: probably, alas.

After a few moments silence, Euler hits the 'away' pose...

Agatha Macbeth: (Looks like Wol's on the phone again)
Wol Euler: heheh
Agatha Macbeth: Ah, back
Wol Euler: writing an e-mail to the group about Liza's wiki editing problem
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes
Wol Euler: sorry
Bertram Jacobus: a multitasker !
Agatha Macbeth: I've been following the saga
Wol Euler: well, alas no, as my falling asleep here proved :)
Wol Euler: I do timeslicing rather than multithreading :)
Wol Euler <- geek.
Myna Maven: Big crash of thunder here. Guess we'll have a storm in a minute.

--BELL--

Agatha Macbeth: Seems to be alot of it about lately
Wol Euler: whoosh
Agatha Macbeth: Well, I'm away folks. I got the log
Agatha Macbeth: C yas
Wol Euler: we got the lag
Myna Maven: Bye Agatha.
Wol Euler: bye aggers, take care
Qt Core: 'notte Agatha
Myna Maven: Where do I go to see the photos?
Bertram Jacobus loves storms ! ... ... ... very much ... ... ... ! :-)

So do I Bert! I think Sharon says she does too

Wol Euler: pretty well due north of here
Bertram Jacobus: bye agatha ...
Wol Euler: oh wait
Wol Euler: or is it east?
Wol Euler: looking at the map ...
Myna Maven: Where's north? Oh well.....
Wol Euler: keep your minimap open :)
Myna Maven: I'm looking for it. I forgot where it is.
Wol Euler: yes, indeed, nearly due north
Wol Euler: go northeast of here until you find hte street, then follow that north until you come to a big paved space
Wol Euler: northeast is roughly behind QT
Wol Euler: from where you are
xxxxgirl xxxx: so,,
Wol Euler: mmm?
Bertram Jacobus: yes ? ;-)
xxxxgirl xxxx: who ar aggers?
Wol Euler: aggers = Agatha :)
Bertram Jacobus: agatha is sometimes called aggers ;-9
Wol Euler: an english habit of creating nicknames
Wol Euler: I would be wollers :)
Wol Euler: it doesn't work for all names, neither Bertram nor QT would fit

What's wrong with Berters And QTers??

Bertram Jacobus: aggers calls me berti sometimes ... ;-)
Wol Euler: mmhmm
xxxxgirl xxxx: and mine?
Bertram Jacobus: cutie ? ;-)
Wol Euler grins
Wol Euler: or "xxxxster"
xxxxgirl xxxx: hehe
xxxxgirl xxxx: cutie is fine :)
Bertram Jacobus: :-)
xxxxgirl xxxx: well, do you have a topic today?
Bertram Jacobus: not yet
Bertram Jacobus: may be one will still occure ?
Wol Euler: we got through the session without one
Bertram Jacobus: we talked a bit about the art project ... but i find that difficult ...
Bertram Jacobus: sometimes or even a bit more then sometimes ...
Wol Euler: brb

--BELL--

Bertram Jacobus: because it´s the contrary to "drop" to me - often. not always. when people have fun from it - and i do so, too, sometimes - may be - it´s nice
Wol Euler: well this is where I begin to have difficulties with dropping too
Bertram Jacobus: ah !
Wol Euler: do you mean by dropping that enjoyment is bad? Must I eat sawdust and drink boiled water for the rest of my life?
Bertram Jacobus: no . i think, it´s okay when we enjoy when something is there to enjoy but also can let go when it disappears
Wol Euler: wb CG
Bertram Jacobus: wb cg
Wol Euler: so ... where is the contrariness then?
Wol Euler: [14:14] Bertram Jacobus: because it´s the contrary to "drop" to me
Qt Core: dropping versus choosing a specific moment to freeze in a "eternal" photo ?
Bertram Jacobus: yes - you may be right : may be an eroor of mine and simply i don´t like many art froms and products - and may be - but that is a bit embarrasing : when i have impressions, others were too clinging ? *blush*
Wol Euler: okay ...
xxxxgirl xxxx: thanks, was disconnected!
Bertram Jacobus: and that what you say, too qt (!) - or is it only that i´m too lazy to take and make and handle then - photos (?) ... hmm ... don´t know . only know : don´t need them for myself ... hm
Wol Euler smiles
Qt Core: i just don't think i got the pic making, i did one some months ago and it toke me hours... don't like to repeat the experience
Bertram Jacobus: same here qt - i think i would need much time for it ! ...
Qt Core: may use that one, it has so much time in it ;-)
Qt Core: the procedure is easy, but repeating it until satisfacted not so much ;-)
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: but at least you can dump the photos toy our hard disk for free
Wol Euler: I spent a fortune uploadiung screenshots before I figured that out
Qt Core: that too is something i dislike seen my relationship with sl money
Bertram Jacobus: sry - i´ll leave ... have a nice nite and ty for your companionship ! and may all beings be happy plz ...
Wol Euler: goodnight bert
xxxxgirl xxxx: thanks, same to you Hacoubs
Qt Core: 'night bertram
xxxxgirl xxxx: jacoubs
Bertram Jacobus: byeee :-)
xxxxgirl xxxx: also, nighty guys
Wol Euler: bye CG, take care
Qt Core: night xxxxgirl

--BELL--

Wol Euler: I should go too, the evening is getting old
xxxxgirl xxxx: see you soon:)
Wol Euler: buona notte, QT
Qt Core: yes, me too, 'notte Wol