15 - 18 Lucidity

Eliza Scribing...

"Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."

stevenaia Michinaga: I remember re-reading one of the first session I attended with pema and Stim, it was quite overwhelming
Eliza Madrigal: do you remember what was overwhelming for you?
stevenaia Michinaga: I had no frame of reference to understand what they were talking about :)
Eliza Madrigal: he he
Eliza Madrigal: I was sure that I did, when I got here... hahaha
stevenaia Michinaga: so I kept comming back and the nurturung environment was of great help to my eventual understanding
Pila Mulligan: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: *nurturing
Eliza Madrigal: That's a wonderful disposition Steve... to ease into everything...
Pila Mulligan: the recipe was secondary to the meal then
Eliza Madrigal: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: well the way Pema speaks to the topic is helpful, in a sophicatated simplicity

http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2010/09/2010.09.15_19%3a00_-_Lucidity
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Pila Mulligan: maybe we come here seeking lucdity
Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
Pila Mulligan: :)
Pila Mulligan: and light
Eos Amaterasu: I suppose being here is about waking up?
Eliza Madrigal: being seen
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eos Amaterasu: and sometimes being woken up
Eliza Madrigal: roar
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Eos Amaterasu: cough cough
Eliza Madrigal: :)haha
Eos Amaterasu: Wondering where the lions are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Lpx6JIMmk ; for later
Pila Mulligan: joking*
Eliza Madrigal: how does one recognize lucidity? I can think of what it is for me... but am curious from others
Eliza Madrigal clicks and saves link
SophiaSharon Larnia: interesting question
Pila Mulligan: having better awareness maybe
SophiaSharon Larnia: lucidity a feeling of click??
Eos Amaterasu: Lucidity while dreaming, or while awake?
Pila Mulligan: both :)
Eliza Madrigal: either...
stevenaia Michinaga: lol
Eliza Madrigal: hah
Pila Mulligan: I think they are similar, at least
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eos Amaterasu: So Eliza, how do you recognize lucidity while awake?
Eos Amaterasu: (recognize lucidity? what does that mean?)
Pila Mulligan: see light :)
Eos Amaterasu: I think so
Eliza Madrigal: well.. as in dreams a sense of awareness of dreaming.... of the embeddedness...
Eliza Madrigal: yes, light too...
Eliza Madrigal: awareness of dreaming in the daytime in particular... could be lots of things
Eliza Madrigal: I think it is neat that sometimes we seem to have group lucidity
Eos Amaterasu: you mean everyone perks up?
Eliza Madrigal: clicks? heh
Eliza Madrigal: @ Sharon ;-)
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SophiaSharon Larnia: Definition of LUCIDITY 1: clearness of thought or style 2: a presumed capacity to perceive the truth directly and instantaneously ... In common usage, intelligibility, brightness or sanity (leaving out the lucid dream definition)
Eliza Madrigal: ah, sustained clarity
Eos Amaterasu: lucid: filled with light
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Pila Mulligan: from the Latin word for light
Eos Amaterasu: "the room is empty the room is full of light the room is empty the room is full of light"
Alfred Kelberry: is it like a tiny satori?
Pila Mulligan: yep
Eliza Madrigal: so 'being seen' in the light is a kind of exposure and trust...
Alfred Kelberry: :)
Eos Amaterasu: could be :-)!
Eliza Madrigal: mm, yes...

http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2010/09/2010.09.15_19%3a00_-_Lucidity

Eden Haiku: That day I experienced peeling off the sky...
Eliza Madrigal listens
adoro Rhapsody: its tea time here
adoro Rhapsody: afternoon
adoro Rhapsody: 16.22
Bertram Jacobus: helllo zen ! ... :-)
Bertram Jacobus: oops - he´s still to far away ... lol
Eden Haiku: I was riding in a horse-drawn carriage in Egypt. I was with a little group of friends and somehow I was late and I was joining them at the sound and light show at Karnark Temple in Luxor.
Eliza Madrigal: oh wow...
Eden Haiku: So I was by myself in that carriage and the sky was a pale green, near sunset.
adoro Rhapsody: and how was your time experience ?
Eden Haiku: It felt completely unreal, with the shadows of palm trees and the exotic place.
adoro Rhapsody: but it was real
Bertram Jacobus: helllo zen :-)

Eliza Madrigal is struck by that thought... it 'felt' completely unreal
 

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
Eden Haiku: And then I felt I could reach out to the screen of the pale green sky and peel it off to see what was behind the whole unreal scene.
Zen Arado: Hi all
adoro Rhapsody: hi zen
Eliza Madrigal: like a film that one could just loosen the edge of..
Eden Haiku: Hi Zen :)
adoro Rhapsody: i felt the same in dream dance at Bertrams place
Eliza Madrigal: an eye lid
Eden Haiku: Yes, the pale green sky seemed just like that: a film, a thin layer...

http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2010/09/2010.09.17_07%3a00_-_Peeling_Open