Corvuscorva Nightfire: "I was so glad of the practice as I went to a job interview this week....there were 26 people there to interview me....9 seconds helped a great deal. I stopped before the interview to do the 9seconds...and found myself more present despite the anxiety of interviewing....and so, greatly appreciative.
Threedee Shepherd: Yes, just the pause and the quieting is effective in itself
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I find it helps, too, in working...in being authentic with people.. I sometimes get overwhelmed by the sheer number of interactions in a day...and doing the 9 seconds has helped me just...sort of BE with that discomfort and let it pass.
Sky Szimmer: lately I have just been in appreciating and gratitude mode
Threedee Shepherd: anything in particular happening?
Sky Szimmer: just try to take in the moment fully
Maxine Walden: My own experience in the last month or so is that my mind really has opened, assumptions I thought were ‘givens’ in life I more clearly recognize as assumptions or patterns rather than ‘reality’
Dakini Rhode: ... do you find your practice at other times bleeds through into the rest of your life?
Adelene Dawner: mmhmm
Dakini Rhode: can you say more, Adelene?
Adelene Dawner: Well, just in general… I’ve always been decent at focusing on the task at hand, but I find that I’ve been more engaged, recently, even when there’s not somethingthat needs to be done.
Dakini Rhode: could you explain what you’re more engaged with?
Adelene Dawner: Whatever’s going on around me. I’ve noticed it on bus rides a lot - I don’t drive - I usually spend my travel time reading, or zoned out listening to music, but I findmyself watching the people around me more… not quite getting into conversations or stuff, but definitely paying more attention. ^.^
Dakini Rhode: thanks for explaining… it helps me understand… I get the feeling you’re more “present” and even curious, maybe, than previously, perhaps
Adelene Dawner: that’s a good description, yes.
Fael Illyar: Yes, I’ve noticed similar changes in what I do.I pay attention on my surroundings instead of submerging into myself.
Adelene Dawner: I still like reading, but it’s a lower priority now… I’m less bored with people. Less bored in general, actually.
Fael Illyar: I’ve found the 9 seconds to be very useful :)
Artemisia Svoboda: do you mean useful as in providing insights?
Fael Illyar: That too but the most useful thing is learning to let go of things fast :)
Fael Illyar: Like, if you get shocked by something you see or hear, you can recover from it much faster after doing PaBs for some time.
Artemisia Svoboda: learning to let go of things fast - I think that will motivate me to try it out
Fael Illyar: taking a “pause” becomes a second nature when you need one.
Rowan Masala nods
Umbriel Levenque: Ah :-)
Pema Pera: I have had a similar experience myself, and I find it very encouraging that so many people here report that the explorations have really helped them — it is surprising in a way, since when we started there was almost no structure. The only suggestion I made in the beginning was something like “drop what you have to find what you are” - which is rather open ended :-)
Fael Illyar: it seems to be enough :)
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Threedee Shepherd: Interestingly, I was at a RL party earlier and recently a SL party, both this afternoon, The RL party was interesting in that it was lots of people playing music, dancing, sharing food and celebrating a couple we all know. The joy and spontaneity felt like one long 9-sce experience, now that I reflect back on it.
doug Sosa: that is terrific!
doug Sosa: ... Brings tears to my eyes. As we do the 9 sec we are more open to what is.
Threedee Shepherd: Yes, I see that as a result in the other 99% of the time, of the 9-sec.
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Neela Blaisdale: … I was saying that finding PaB and the Zen Retreat have been very significant for me
Neela Blaisdale: Significant in helping me focus on inner thoughts and experience and also helping to clarify ways to change my approach to things
Neela Blaisdale: By that I mean both the 9 sec and meditation show me a way to have some perspective and to pause in the moment.
Threedee Shepherd: Was that unexpected?
Neela Blaisdale: In other words both teach me mindfulness. Unexpected in that when I started here I had no expectations, wasn't sure what to expect.
Storm Nordwind: To continue on simplicity, it's as though things like PaB free me of things that I would otherwise erroneously identify with. I can see the complexity if i choose in other things, but those are easier to see as transient and i don't identify with them
Umbriel Levenque: ... How do you get to see some things and don't identify with them?
Storm Nordwind: Because I persist and they don't. Because I glimpse what I really am too I guess. These things can be helped by the PaB practices I find. Do you find that?
Umbriel Levenque: Yes
Wol Euler considers, and nods.
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Storm Nordwind: … you seem to do more - more 9 second practice - but as a result your life seems less cluttered.
doug Sosa: i love the impact of the 9 sec on my way of handling such meetings.
Caledonia Heron: how does it show up?
doug Sosa: let the meeting, and its context, see me.
doug Sosa: and of course..
doug Sosa: i notice that alot of it is not paying attention to me at all :)
Caledonia Heron: so it is more on point? more efficient? or not that? I’m wondering how that plays out
doug Sosa: i mean the table, the walls, the projector, and even the people..
Caledonia Heron: ahhh, ok
doug Sosa: less trying to push the rope and more adjusting to it.
Caledonia Heron: yes, not driving it so much?
doug Sosa: more not being anxious about not driving it.
Caledonia Heron: like letting go of it?
doug Sosa: allows for fewer and more helpful “interventions”.
Gaya Ethaniel: No longer do I have to ‘force’ myself to sit straight so much… recently
Gaya Ethaniel: I used to slouch a lot… for a few weeks now, I’ve found myself naturally sit/stand upright
Gaya Ethaniel: No efforts…
Gaya Ethaniel: It had always been struggle to sit/stand upright… now it feels wrong/uncomfortable if forced to slouch…
Wol Euler smiles. So the practice is feeding back into your normal life in a physical way.
Stim Morane: Yes, that is an example that does involve proprioception … of what “wrongness” is like, vs something more natural.
Gaya Ethaniel: I haven’t done anything different to strengthen my core muscles or anything like that… it happened as I became more aware
Stim Morane: Good
Stim Morane: It would be strange if the kinds of awareness we’re concerned with here did not involve the body and its postures, etc
Threedee Shepherd: ... Is the Being during the 9-sec a different state and/or a less cluttered observing?
Solobill Laville: For the vast majority of the time, I'd posit the latterThreedee Shepherd: I tend to agree Solo. That helps me to be able to use the 9-sec *tool* at other times.
Solobill Laville: The removal of clutter allows for the Expereince of Being, but doesn't make it a certainty, by a long shot
Solobill Laville: As a tool it has many uses :)
Solobill Laville: Can change my whole attitude on a work day, for example
Sky Szimmer: yes. when those moments are available, i find that there is no inner or outer
Pia Iger: a few tricks I learned here for meditation, is to stay with your breath, observe your mind without judgement
Pia Iger: so while I still feel frustration or stress, frequent 9-sec breaks prevent them from accumulation.
Rowan Masala nods
Pia Iger: every day there is still ups and downs, but they don't impact me too deeply. in average, I am quite stable and contented.
stevenaia Michinaga: ..smile, a nice thing
Pia Iger: and meeting friends here definitely help. Once I saw you all sat here peacefully, I feel much better, relieved from my internet frustration.
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