The Guardian for this meeting was Mickorod Renard. The comments are by Mickorod Renard.

Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
Mickorod Renard: Hiya
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi there :)
Mickorod Renard: am still trying to get the recorder to give it to me
Mickorod Renard: ah sussed
Catrinamonblue Resident: there you go I think :)
Mickorod Renard: yeppers, got it
Mickorod Renard: he he
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Mickorod Renard: how are you today?
Catrinamonblue Resident: a bit tired but generally good :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: you?
Mickorod Renard: bout the same..I am going on a drive around for a couple of days tomorrow
Catrinamonblue Resident: nice :) were to?
Mickorod Renard: so I am on wind down
Mickorod Renard: not far, will venture into wales
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh nice :) some day I want to visit over there..... :)
Mickorod Renard: I have booked a couple of hotel stays in old places, one like a castle
Catrinamonblue Resident: :) lovely!!
Mickorod Renard: well, hopefully
Mickorod Renard: hoping to put the roof down and get some fresh air but it will prob rain all the time..he he
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: hubs and I have a vacation planned in Mexico in December :)
Mickorod Renard: oh wow, and I think aph is going there soon too
Mickorod Renard: not the earth quake area I hope?
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes but I think she said she was going to see mountains.... No we will be much farther north than that
Catrinamonblue Resident: Puerto Vallarta :)
Mickorod Renard: great..is acapulca bay in Mexico?
Mickorod Renard: oh ok ty
Mickorod Renard: will look it up
Catrinamonblue Resident: :) we went once before a few years ago and liked it. this vacation is all on points so not costing us much at all :)
Mickorod Renard: ah great idea..I used to get lots of points once and did lots of weekend trips to places like Rome and so on
Catrinamonblue Resident: cool :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes it's fun to do it this way :)
Mickorod Renard: airmiles..he he ..and credit card awads
Catrinamonblue Resident: yes :)
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: I was so into collecting points I tried to buy a house using my credit card..my solicitor wouldnt let me
Catrinamonblue Resident: lol :-D
Catrinamonblue Resident: would have been amazing if you could have!! :)
Mickorod Renard: I am sure it was something to do with him holding my money over the weekend and floating it to make some proffit
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh
Mickorod Renard: it was a cheap house to use for renting out but it would have ramped up some points
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Mickorod Renard: I wonder whether there is a recent card to hand out to visitors should they come..I suspect my card is very out of date?
Mickorod Renard: ayup Ags
Catrinamonblue Resident: mmmm not sure
Agatha Macbeth: Evening all
Mickorod Renard: Hi Raffi
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi aggers :) and Raffi :)
Mickorod Renard: nice to c ya
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Agatha Macbeth: Great - this one has the good pose
Mickorod Renard: nice the Huricane is gone
Raffila Millgrove: Hello everyone.
Mickorod Renard: Hi Raffi
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, nasty weather
Agatha Macbeth: Glad Liz is OK
Mickorod Renard: any idea what has happened to Bruce these days?
Raffila Millgrove: my new graphics card will be installed on MOnday so i can stop wearing this peculair get up. i only worse cause it's incredible low prim and my card is dying.. i gotta keep the load on it form SL as low as I can.
Mickorod Renard: yayyy
Agatha Macbeth: I think his connection is playing up
Mickorod Renard: oh..:(
Raffila Millgrove: gosh i miss him. was he not here on Monday either?
Agatha Macbeth: Nope
Raffila Millgrove: i so wished he was here for Maxine's visit.
Mickorod Renard: I saw he tried to log in on one session either last thurs or mon
Agatha Macbeth: He did manage to append dsome comments to the log tho
Raffila Millgrove: Aphrodite said he'd logged in.. as the session began last Thurs and then suddenly gone.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes he came in and went off a few seconds later
Raffila Millgrove: gosh i hope he straightens it out soon. we need him!!
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe the weather has something to do with it
Mickorod Renard: I need to get a laptop with good graphics card,,I have a habit of having ibm and they are not good on cards
Raffila Millgrove: my new phone is so fab i don't even use it for phoning. i use to watch youtube. it's fantastic. i don't have wireless so couldn't use my tablet but now my phone is mynew hand held computer.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Raffila Millgrove: do you guys think that maybe we could read a new book or is that off the table?
Mickorod Renard: cool, it may be worth you looking at an app called Lumiya. I have it and I can get on sl using my phone
Catrinamonblue Resident: I would be up for another book... I just have no ideas of what
Mickorod Renard: I would too..again no idea what
Raffila Millgrove: i think.. it would be nice if all of us who come on Monday and Thurs made like a "pitch" and we voted on one.
Raffila Millgrove: maybe I could put that in an email. who knows. i dunno if anyone reads email.
Raffila Millgrove: anymore.
Catrinamonblue Resident: I read the emails :)
Agatha Macbeth: I was thinking about doing Fritjof Capra's the Tao of Physics on a Monday
Raffila Millgrove: I could suggest it in email?
Mickorod Renard: thats a good idea..but we must agree not to be too ..erm ..agreeable
Agatha Macbeth: Just a thought
Catrinamonblue Resident: sounds interesting Aggs.. :)
Raffila Millgrove: like outline the idea and see if people like it? the "pitch and vote"?
Mickorod Renard: good idea Raffi
Agatha Macbeth: It is...would have to read it myself again first :p
Mickorod Renard: not sure what that is Ags?
Aphrodite Macbain: 's current display-name is "Aph".
Raffila Millgrove: ok i will write up an email and post it and see what we get as comment on do you want to pitch and vote..
Mickorod Renard: we could do it and do a follow up on the thursday Ags
Raffila Millgrove: maybe we have the pitches all organized in one thread in email so we don't get mixed up on it.
Mickorod Renard: Hi Aph
Agatha Macbeth: It's Lady Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: HIya
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Aph :)
Agatha Macbeth: Nice hair
Aphrodite Macbain: pls excuse my courtly clothes
Mickorod Renard: no excuse needed Aph
Agatha Macbeth: Courtly is good m'lady
Aphrodite Macbain: blesseth thee
Agatha Macbeth: How's Arthur?
--BELL--
Aphrodite Macbain: kingly. He's getting the runaround from Lance
Agatha Macbeth: Again?
Aphrodite Macbain: 'fraid so
Agatha Macbeth: Mon dieu
Mickorod Renard: on Thursdays, prior to other things of interest that we may adopt..as a back up I was going to have a rumi poem available
Aphrodite Macbain: how nice
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh good
Aphrodite Macbain: love Rumi
Agatha Macbeth: When is this dream thing with Zen starting?
Mickorod Renard: I do have one once we have ran out of other things to chat about..no rush
Mickorod Renard: I dont know Ags
Agatha Macbeth: I remember Liz mentioning it
Aphrodite Macbain: no idea
Mickorod Renard: with all these Huricanes and so forth it may be delayed?
Aphrodite Macbain: anyone hear from Eliza?
Mickorod Renard: I think she has made it home
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Mickorod Renard: which is lovely
Aphrodite Macbain: I hope her home is still her home
Mickorod Renard: it wouldnt suprise me if power is still out
Raffila Millgrove: I amhearing from Fla friends that they are back home but power is out.
Aphrodite Macbain: so many people homeless in the world
Aphrodite Macbain: refugees, immigrants, people affected by huricanes and fire
Mickorod Renard: yes, its confusing seeing mixed reports on that Mirimar ethnic cleansing issue
Raffila Millgrove: we had that horrible fire in LA right in our backyard for real. it was ghastly scary.
Aphrodite Macbain: Oh dear Raffi
Aphrodite Macbain: Are you OK?
Raffila Millgrove: it was the 3rd fire i been thru in this house and the wrost yet. for scary.
Mickorod Renard: didnt hear about that Raffi
Raffila Millgrove: yeah i didn't mention it. it was too much. no need to go on about it. just scared us terrible is all. we ended up fine.
Mickorod Renard: thats the main thing
Catrinamonblue Resident: I didn't know Raffi, hugs to you.... glad all is ok now
Raffila Millgrove: but the process.. the watching it.. coming at us.. and so forth scared us. i did not evacuate. i decided to go at last minute if needed.
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm planning to move within the year and now have new criteria for selecting a place
Raffila Millgrove: if you been thru this before as we have. you already know what your plan is to get out quick and what to take.
Mickorod Renard: great Aph
Catrinamonblue Resident: where will you be moving to Aph/ another city all together or stay around where you are?
Raffila Millgrove: so all you do is wait to see if you are going to go at the last minute or not.
Aphrodite Macbain: a place up high above the coast, with no trees!
Mickorod Renard: ah was it those bush fires?
Mickorod Renard: I did se something on the news
Aphrodite Macbain: I'd prefer my house was safe as well as me
Mickorod Renard: u can have landslides
Aphrodite Macbain: Over the next 20 years things are going to change dramatically
Raffila Millgrove: it was the largest fire in the city of LA in its history. most of time we are threatened by forest fire. this one was in a valley area of LA that is surrounded by cities .. it was mostly brush and trees. started out 500 acre. over 8000 finally burnt up.
Mickorod Renard: for sure
Aphrodite Macbain: everywhere
Mickorod Renard: woha..thats big
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh wow
Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder whether planning a house that is "off the grid" and not dependent on others for electricity micht be the way to go. Probably costly
Catrinamonblue Resident: Tiny house!! :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Grow my own veggies
Raffila Millgrove: we were saved.. by these new helicopers called super scoopers from Canada. they dropped fire retardant and then when that didn't work. they dumped water right on the blaze only a block from us and that saved us.
Mickorod Renard: I would like to try that Aph
Catrinamonblue Resident: oh wow raffi!!
Aphrodite Macbain: back to the basics
Mickorod Renard: #phew Raffi, sounds a close call
Aphrodite Macbain: Super scoopers! lol
Raffila Millgrove: yeah it was awful.. but we're fine. i am glad they bought these new copters. it was amazing to watch them.
Aphrodite Macbain: I guess they needed nearby water to scoop from
Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like an Abba song
Aphrodite Macbain: sing it Aggers!
Catrinamonblue Resident: I live next to the air force base in Trenton Ontario :) It's amazing to watch all the different planes and copter :)
Raffila Millgrove: yeah they had this big reservoir.. nearby and they scooped from it ok. they keep it full in case they might need fire water.
Aphrodite Macbain: Glad there was still a reservoir
Agatha Macbeth: Super scooper super scooper...♪ ♫
Agatha Macbeth: Oh Qt came on!
Raffila Millgrove: well they had a plan. because we are always threatened by fire every year.... it's a big deal over here to "have a plan". all that planning saved us.
Catrinamonblue Resident: glad to hear that Raffi :)
Aphrodite Macbain: our fires are still burning brightly= no end in sight
Aphrodite Macbain: Towns are being destroyed
Raffila Millgrove: last time they brought a foam truck and they parked it by us for 3 days til the worst was past. mine is the first house in the neighborhood slated for foam cause i am most at risk.
Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera Qt :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Salve QY!
Aphrodite Macbain: T
Qt Core: Ciao Agatha, hi all
Raffila Millgrove: hey QT!
Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Qt :)
Mickorod Renard: Hi QT
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: is there any talk of a new star trek series?
Aphrodite Macbain: for TV?
Mickorod Renard: would be nice
Aphrodite Macbain: what new could they do?
Qt Core: Yesm nick, a new one "Star Trek Discovery" is startying in a couple week on cbs and netflix
Agatha Macbeth: To boldly go...
Aphrodite Macbain: same actors?
Mickorod Renard: they could do it all over again,,when u watch the old wil shatner ones its so dated
Agatha Macbeth: But good
Qt Core: no, all new, even different for for the klingons it is timed some 10 years before Kirk (the original series) time
Mickorod Renard: yes
Catrinamonblue Resident: based 10 years before Kirk and Spock.... sounds interesting
Mickorod Renard: wasnt there a series before kirk?
Agatha Macbeth: Spock was totally different on the pilot
Aphrodite Macbain: before.....
Qt Core: going further i the future may leave issues about what technology to invent (but then it show a lack of courage and ideas)
Mickorod Renard: enterprise?
Qt Core: yes, that is a some 150 years before kirk
Aphrodite Macbain: ah-the good ship Enterprise
Mickorod Renard: ah, quite a jump
Raffila Millgrove: I read a huge long book where a guy interviewed everyone.. involved with Trek after the first series.... oral quotes from hundreds of people Huge book. fascinating. nothing but quotes from their interviews woven together in a chornological history.
Qt Core: then next generation/ds9/voyager some 80 years after kirk
Qt Core: i have my fears about the new series but i'm considering subscribing to netflix just for that ;-)
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Mickorod Renard: there is definely room in the future for the future past
Raffila Millgrove: covered every series after that original including all the films. most of the info was from producers, show runners, directors, actors and some of Rodenberry's family members etc. 1000 pages. lot of their ideas were mentioned. their suggestions that were taken up or let go.
Catrinamonblue Resident: I like netflix, at least here in Canada. It has some cool shows and some remakes of a few awesome old cartoon shows (voltron)
Aphrodite Macbain: sounds like a grammatical challenge
Qt Core: if they don't wan to mess with canon and established timelines not so much ;-)
Mickorod Renard: ok, I am giving a poem from Rumi,,we can discuss it inbetween star trek
Raffila Millgrove: there was and i suspect still is.. always a battle between those who wanted to be very strict about "what would Gene say".. and be close to original and those who wanted to expand. it went back and forth constantly.
Agatha Macbeth: Did you get the log btw Mick?
Mickorod Renard: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Ok
Qt Core: there is already a lot of info about the new series around even merchandising already being sold (i chose to ignore both ;-))
Raffila Millgrove: lol wise choice QT.
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: someone should do a series about people adapting to climate change. Perhaps a throwback to the 60s- back-to-the landers, It would be popular if done well
Aphrodite Macbain: Could be a comedy :-)
Agatha Macbeth: Gad sir it raineth too hard methinks
Mickorod Renard: Let go of your worries and be completely clear-hearted, like the face of a mirror that contains no images. If you want a clear mirror, behold yourself and see the shameless truth, which the mirror reflects. If metal can be polished to a mirror-like finish, what polishing might the mirror of the heart require? Between the mirror and the heart is this single difference: the heart conceals secrets, while the mirror does not.
Aphrodite Macbain: Nice Mick. Where is that from?
Mickorod Renard: oh, I should have stated, but I am not sure
Agatha Macbeth: Through the looking glass :P
Aphrodite Macbain: It just came into your head?!
Mickorod Renard: I thought it tied in with our Wole
Agatha Macbeth: Our Wollie?
Qt Core: maybe it is just a matter of terminology, but the idea of a mirror make me think about not letting the idea/rst of he world inside but rejecting it...
Aphrodite Macbain: Here's Rocca Sorrentina's Harvest programme. Come if you can.
Mickorod Renard: ty Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: yw
Aphrodite Macbain: It's been keeping me busy
Mickorod Renard: yes Qt, its quite deep poem and easy to read in many ways
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Aphrodite Macbain: It's hard to face our real selves
--BELL--
Qt Core: is it poetry if it has only one way to be read ? ;-)
Mickorod Renard: i wouldnt know its true meaning as much of rumis work is lost in translation
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Any particular dress code Aph?
Aphrodite Macbain: nope come as u are :-)
Qt Core: barefoot for the grape stomping i think ;-)
Aphrodite Macbain: good idea
Agatha Macbeth: Oh nice
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Agatha Macbeth: The barefoot contessa
Aphrodite Macbain: sings "grapes between my toes"
Mickorod Renard: I read somewhere it was to suggest that if you try and be the same as the heart and mirror then you have overcome the diference
Raffila Millgrove: i was thinking about the translations of the poems in Adams exhibit. he said it was around 1974. it was very forward looking in language. very pc. I was thinking that I'd like to look at some older translations.
Agatha Macbeth: Squelch
Catrinamonblue Resident: the mirror of who we are, the mirror reverses.... opposites of what is... the other side of the coin perhaps...
Catrinamonblue Resident: words words words.... silly little things
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Raffila Millgrove: nice comment Catrina!
Raffila Millgrove: did anyone else notice about the translation at Adamns exhibit?
Aphrodite Macbain: grins at Cat
Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
Mickorod Renard: I think nif you can reflect openly what your heart feels and it is comfortable,,then all is good..but for many the two are diferent
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm afraid I haven't seen it yet
Mickorod Renard: no, I havnt been yet
Mickorod Renard: been so busy
Raffila Millgrove: he did the present on Sunday. it was quite fab.
Raffila Millgrove: it's really good!
Aphrodite Macbain: A willingness to really see who you are may be difficult though Mick
Mickorod Renard: I was annoyed i missed it
Catrinamonblue Resident: I couldn't make it to the presentation.... I will try to go see
Mickorod Renard: yes Aph, a challenge
Raffila Millgrove: well you should go see it.. cause he did lovely work in how he.. shows the paintings.. that accompany the poems. he did closeups of details.
Mickorod Renard: I must Raffi
Raffila Millgrove: it's really excellent.
Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks for the reminder Raffi
Raffila Millgrove: and the poems are so beautiful. they are also amazing.
Aphrodite Macbain: Poems?
Raffila Millgrove: I had company here on Sunday and we all watched it.
Raffila Millgrove: yes. this exhibit is based on one he saw.. at the Met.
Mickorod Renard: Adams want to interview ,e too, but I feel so inadequate and un interesting
Aphrodite Macbain: what did they think?
Aphrodite Macbain: You are NOT Mick
Aphrodite Macbain: You are very interesting
Mickorod Renard: I prob are
Raffila Millgrove: about a Chinese woman long long ago... who after she died.. a bio.. of 3 poems was left about 200 yrs later (not her work but based on her experience) and then.... another 18 poems and illustrations were made in another scroll based on it.
Mickorod Renard: uninteresting
Aphrodite Macbain: although you dont tell us much about yourself :-)
Agatha Macbeth polishes Mick's head
Mickorod Renard: am I the heart or the mirror?
Aphrodite Macbain: All I know is that u have grandkids and ride a motorcycle
Catrinamonblue Resident: the heart IS the mirror :)
Aphrodite Macbain: u are the heart
Mickorod Renard: he he ,,thats about all thats left of me
Raffila Millgrove: he told the basic story in his posts in email. a Chinese woman is captured by the entrhic tribe to north . taken far away and made to be wife to a chieftain. she has two children and then about 12 yrs later.. finally she is ransomed and she must return to her home Without her beloved children. She came to love her husband too. very sad.
Aphrodite Macbain: your heart?
Mickorod Renard: hold on, reading Raffi again
Agatha Macbeth: Thump thump
Raffila Millgrove: Adams talked about how the ethic tribes up to north of china.. how they took over a lot of china.. and eventually things feel apart a bit and people ended up being captured and held for ransom. she was one of those souls.
Mickorod Renard: thats quite a story raffi
Agatha Macbeth: Ethic tribes...like that
Catrinamonblue Resident: interesting :)
Agatha Macbeth admires Aph's dress
Aphrodite Macbain: Now I'm really interested to visit the show! But right now I must get back to stirring my mead and stomping grapes.
Raffila Millgrove: the pomes tell that story very well .. from her viewpoint. it's so sad and beautiful. the way the poems describe the land she travels thru her feelings. amazing good stuff.
Mickorod Renard: one can almost feel her grief in the tormenting situations sshe faced
Catrinamonblue Resident: bye Aph :)
Agatha Macbeth: Stomp well Aphie
Mickorod Renard: bye Aph
Qt Core: bye Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Byee
Mickorod Renard: ty for beinhg here
Raffila Millgrove: yes for years she misses her relatives and her pampered court live. hates the heat and cold and dirt of living in tents. and in the end of course.. she is torn between leaving the children/man she loves and going home again. very interesting how well this story is told.
Qt Core: translating from such a different language as chinese/japanese to english/european languages .... so hard
Agatha Macbeth nods
Raffila Millgrove: the paintings on the scroll.. they are also .. compelling to look at.
Qt Core: a few times i tried to translate italian song into english, and just doing that was hard
Mickorod Renard: I often wonder whether folk from other cultures manage these situations diferently
Raffila Millgrove: QT. i think songs.. are so hard to undertand at first, even when you are pretty good with a foreign language, the songs tend to defeat me fast.
Mickorod Renard: like for eg,,if they were Budhist wouldshe have a peaceful accepting view of it?
Raffila Millgrove: Mick I don't think you were kidding, but i find that statement just.. well odd really cause why would Buddism let you feel ok about losing your children. nothing really makes you accept that one very easily.
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: yes, I wasnt meaning it flipantly, rather more as an example as a point to consider
Raffila Millgrove: i notice when people lose their children.. having some type, any type of religious faith.. is sometimes more comforting. a bit. but my gosh.. to lose your children. what can be worse in this life. most of us would rather die ourselves than see our children torn from us.
Mickorod Renard: that is very true, but I was thinking that there is this notion of fate tying in with kama and samsara etc that might have a more accepting viewpoint
Qt Core: mick, even in christianity one may accept anything as a test or a punishment
Mickorod Renard: I dunno, just occured to me,,but as you say raffi,,we are all humans and likely to suffer the same regardless
Catrinamonblue Resident: last year I moved away from my children, mind you they are almost grown up but the youngest was 15..... I know live a 2.5 hour drive away...
Raffila Millgrove: well i never saw anyone take it very well.... to lose their child over age 10 or so.. they don't "get over it" no matter what. they find a way to keep on going.. but "accepting" not so much.
Catrinamonblue Resident: It means that I don't see him much through the school year, about once a month
Catrinamonblue Resident: and its hard.... very hard
Catrinamonblue Resident: he is fine, he is staying with his dad... but I miss him greatly and I miss my other kids who have flown the nest and are now out on their own
Raffila Millgrove: the pain, the grief, it raises up like waves.. all the rest of their lives... maybe with some lessening for force, but it never ends. i have talked to people on their death bed showing me photos of their dead children and still mourning as they are dying themselves. you don't accept it. ever.
Mickorod Renard: I have to admit, I have become so involved with my g kids that i now dread that my son and his wife might ione day become more independant from me
Catrinamonblue Resident: nods...
Mickorod Renard: yes raffi, terible
Mickorod Renard: they say, there is nothing worse than out living your own children
Raffila Millgrove: but i will agree that having faith, a strong faith. those people end up faring a bit better. it does help.
Raffila Millgrove: they find some comfort/solace there.
Agatha Macbeth: Like the Bee Gee's mom
Raffila Millgrove: also i find it interesting that the Catholic church has in the past some years adopted this grief program..... of group grief counseling that is... so helplful to people. i have recommended it to many people.
Raffila Millgrove: i hear such good things from people who went to these six weeks. of sessions. it's quite interesting to me they found some way to help others get thru it better.
Mickorod Renard: I agree with you Raffi, funbny my wife was telling me a tale of an aeroplane disaster story and one chap said it was so scary he was an aithiest but even he was praying
Raffila Millgrove: and btw. anyone can go to this. they probably have one near you in case you or anyone ever needs help in dealing with loss of any loved one.
Catrinamonblue Resident: when it comes down to it we all believe in spirituality of some kind :)
Raffila Millgrove: it's good to know there is help nearby for those in grief.
Raffila Millgrove: cause this is first program i ever heard of that seems to work. i am not sure why but what they do.. helps people. being with others and the way the organize it.. seems to be very helpful.
Mickorod Renard: nowfolks, I have to go..got to do stuff here
Agatha Macbeth: Moi aussi
Catrinamonblue Resident: me too :)
Catrinamonblue Resident: thanks Mick for hosting :)
Raffila Millgrove: ah yes. the hours is already past. bye everyone.
Raffila Millgrove: ty Mick.
Agatha Macbeth waves
Qt Core: Bye
Mickorod Renard: thanks all for a great session
Mickorod Renard: take care
Mickorod Renard: thanks for coming Qt,,we miss you
Qt Core: :-)
Mickorod Renard: take care
Qt Core: bye

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