When we just began

Adams Rubble: Since I am new to meditation it is very helpful to hear other people's experiences
Sky Szimmer: how long have you been meditating?
Adams Rubble: me? probably about a week
Fael Illyar: 2 weeks, maybe
Sky Szimmer: you seem to have a good grasp : )
Adams Rubble: but when I discovered breath meditation
Adams Rubble: I realized I have been doing it
Adams Rubble: for years and years whithout knowing what it was
Adams Rubble: so it has made me very comfortable, I could go for a long time doing that
Fael Illyar: I think I've been doing something similar to meditation for years too.
Fael Illyar: Although, not knowing it was close to meditation and not really able to do it on a whim or at will .
Sky Szimmer: well, then, you are not so "new"

Adams Rubble: Last night I listened to this tape on the dharmatalk.org site
Adams Rubble: in which the person coached through a long process
Adams Rubble: focusing first on the nose, chest and stomach
Adams Rubble: and then started slowly moving around the body
Adams Rubble: I described it on my log this morning
Adams Rubble: I think it would take about an hour to do the whole process
Sky Szimmer: i have found that it is good to learn different methods of meditation
Sky Szimmer: it becomes tools that we can lean on
Adams Rubble: yes I want to know about the others

Fael Illyar: To return the subject to negative (?) feelings again. I've been easily annoyed by small children making a show in shops trying to get their way in the past.
Fael Illyar: When I was buying groceries about a week ago, there were 3 small children all making noise non stop. Initially I was annoyed with it but eventually it started changing to being amused with myself.
Sky Szimmer: yes. Fael. what changed?
Sky Szimmer: were you amused with yourself being annoyed or were you amused by the children
Fael Illyar: amused with myself being annoyed.
Sky Szimmer: oh. that seems to be a good thing
Adams Rubble: mindfulness!!!
Fael Illyar: with no intention of letting that annoyance show
Stargate Tone: yea
Stargate Tone: to laugh to oneself :)***
Sky Szimmer: what do you mean by not having intention of letting that annoyance show?
Fael Illyar: Well, I wasn't about to go to silence the children :P
Sky Szimmer: you mean, you didn't want to seem annoyed? or you didn't what that annoyance to be
Sky Szimmer: you can always ask them to quiet down some
Stargate Tone: well…in Finland…oh no
Stargate Tone: You can get police to Your neck for such
Fael Illyar: Yes, try to tell random mother that their child is being too noisy and they'll be mightily annoyed.
Adams Rubble: Well the situation can be a difficult one Fael
Fael Illyar: Well, I ended up not paying any attention after a while of being amused at myself.
Stargate Tone: yea
Adams Rubble: It is good there was a positive outcome :)

Adams Rubble: Sky was making an interesting distinction
Fael Illyar: interesting distinction?
Adams Rubble: Yes
Adams Rubble: let me look back….
Adams Rubble: yes, she was leading you to your motive
Adams Rubble: whether you were concerned about looking annoyed…
Adams Rubble: or being annoyed
Adams Rubble: the answer can be helpful to you
Adams Rubble: for the next time
Adams Rubble: or similar situation
Adams Rubble: mindfulness!!!
Fael Illyar: Yes, mindfulness does come into pretty much every situation :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Fael Illyar: Well, one of the reasons I didn't want to do anything was that the children were making that much noise pretty much because they weren't getting what they wanted.
Adams Rubble: I think the crux of the situation is
Adams Rubble: that the children's behavior is the parent's responsibilty
Adams Rubble: for the most part
Adams Rubble: and that the example is more
Adams Rubble: that it is one in which we do not have complete control
Adams Rubble: except for our own reaction
Adams Rubble: and so we focus on our response
Fael Illyar: Yes, I've been thinking along the lines of "You can't change the world, but you can change yourself" for a few years now.
Adams Rubble: which is why I am here :)