2014.09.21 01:00 - what climate change means

The Guardian for this meeting was No Self. The comments are by No Self.

Qt Core: Hi Wol
Wol Euler: buongiorno, qt
Wol Euler: how's life?
Qt Core: still there, your ?
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: same
Wol Euler: we had a lovely week, sunny and warm, but I fear that was the last of the warmth for this year
Qt Core: almost the same here, but terrible rains in Florence area, several dozen injured, hundreds years old trees fallen and some museums got rain into
Wol Euler: amazing
Wol Euler: my sister and BIL are in Italy right now on holiday, they arrived in Florence in time to see hailstones lying ankle-deep on the street
Qt Core: so you may be more informed than me :-) i only listened to radio news about it
Wol Euler: I know that only because they posted a photo on Facebook. The rest of their posts have been sunny and clear skies and very hot
Qt Core: a meteorologist said that he did the forecast 40 minutes before with 10 minutes old data and there was no sign of that happening
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: I believe that. This is what "climate change" means
Qt Core: as for some of ,y friends that is a sure sign of chem-trails and weather warfare against all the world done by USA ;-)
Wol Euler snorts.
Qt Core: or even better the evil bank rulers ;-)
Wol Euler: well, it's more comfortable to believe in a malicious external enemy, than to think that I might have to change my lifestyle
Wol Euler: the bullshit that people believe is quite staggering
Qt Core: well, i believe they'll like to change in some form of autharky
Wol Euler: ... while still buying fresh strawberries in the middle of winter. Right.
Qt Core: so less travel, no or minimal import/export, no reason to go all around the world, your home is the best place to be, so way less pollution i would think
Wol Euler: and running their cars on Arabian oil. Right.
Wol Euler: and watching a cheap Chinese TV, because Italian ones are too expensive. Right.
Wol Euler: like I said, the bullshit that people believe ...
Wol Euler: generally I agree, qt
Qt Core: on some degree said friend is quite honest in her belief, i believe she never tasted a kebab, for example ;-)
Wol Euler smiles.
Qt Core: something you can find every 50/100 meters around here now
Wol Euler: locally made, so why not eat it?
--BELL--
Qt Core: she would probably say something like this:it isn't from Our Culture, it would give money to muslims (and most of the meat cylinders come from Germany)
Wol Euler: all true
Qt Core: as facts yes, as reason not to eat it a little weak
Wol Euler: agreed
Qt Core: if so we would stop doing most of pasta and pizza toppings as tomatoes aren't from Our Culture
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: depends how far back you want to go with that idea
Wol Euler: Roman? pre-Roman?
Qt Core: i once cooked a pre Cristoforo Colombo meal, that was a complete different experience
Wol Euler: what was in it?
Qt Core: flour, milk, meat, vegs, the way of cooking is the same only no red in it ;-)
Qt Core: no peppers, no turkey no tomatoes and no potatoes too
Qt Core: the following year i cooked an "only from America" meal ;-)
Wol Euler: hmmmmm
Wol Euler smiles.
Qt Core: obviously that was made in 1991 and in 1992 ;-)
Wol Euler: why "obviously"?
Qt Core: the year before and after the 500 years old from america discovery by Colombo
Wol Euler: oh I see
Wol Euler: duh
Wol Euler smacks her forehead
Qt Core: on a happier note: the guy responsible of the italian pavillion at expo 2015 is under inquiry for corruption, so they asked him to step down... from only one of the two posts he yeld in the expo organization
--BELL--
Wol Euler: hehehehehh
Wol Euler: that makes perfect sense
Qt Core: the other post he hold is being the head of the water-street project (the channels/artificial lakes and such)
Wol Euler: clearly there's no chance of corruption there
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: no construction company would ever dream of bribing an official!
Qt Core: the reason is even funnier, for that project the contracts are already assigned, so yes, no way he can influence those... now
Qt Core: that is what was said by the people asking him to step down from the other post
Wol Euler: oh that is such nonsense... there's more money to be made on additions and extensions and changes than in the contract itself, if one knows how
Wol Euler: look at the mess of the new Berlin airport
Qt Core: :-) a ontractor won his contract with a 66% reduction... a few months ago he asked for a66% increase for "unexpected costs"
Wol Euler: absolutely.
Wol Euler: and somebody has to agree to that
Wol Euler: which is where the corruption creeps back in
Wol Euler: somebody has to read and approve the invoices, which are probably 200-page documents
Qt Core: mmm, don't know if it creeps back in or it is all planned from the beginning ;-)
Wol Euler: it was in most cases planned from the beginning
Wol Euler: they read the tender documents with an eye out for loopholes and omissions, and calculate what they can gain there against what they offer as a discount
Wol Euler: "What? a steering wheel? Did you SAY that you wanted a car with a steering wheel?"
Qt Core: the water-streets was huge in the beginning, but even before giving out the contyracts it was resied for the crisis, the ecologists protest and for already being late even before starting
Wol Euler nods.
Qt Core: i need to go, i got an alarm screaming at me reminding me i have to be somewhere in min utes
Qt Core: bye Wol, have fun.
Wol Euler: oops
Wol Euler: take care, qt, enjoy the day