2021.08.05 07:00 - Time in Space

    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

     

    Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle :)
    Adams Rubble: I was going to say I don't see you but there you are
    Riddle Sideways: Morning Adams
    Riddle Sideways: was looking at the new tea house
    Adams Rubble: I just finished a long blog entry
    Riddle Sideways: that appeared
    Adams Rubble: new tea house?
    Riddle Sideways: to the north
    Adams Rubble: I see it
    Riddle Sideways: Bleu put up a little tea hut
    Riddle Sideways: well big, because most tea houses are really small
    Riddle Sideways: you had or have a tea house?
    Riddle Sideways: remember it not so well
    Adams Rubble: my camera is all off
    Riddle Sideways: ?
    Adams Rubble: I have a little open on one sidemeditation shelter
    Adams Rubble: The # 1 part of my entry today might be a good topic unless you habve something you would like to discuss
    Adams Rubble: my camera got stuck at the hut
    Riddle Sideways: kicking email. Ah, there it is. was nothing new until now
    Adams Rubble: I will have to edit the dreams. I rushed it out
    Riddle Sideways: reading
    Riddle Sideways: reading slow and repeating to do a think
    Riddle Sideways: the quote is saying that the past is not in (a) space (that it might have been once)
    Riddle Sideways: yet our minds try to 'recreate' some history into the same place
    Adams Rubble: I will put the quote in the log:
    Adams Rubble: “Taking a third approach, we could focus on the difference between the present on the one hand and the past and future on the other. The present in its immediate intimacy could be understood as the direct presence of space. The past and future cannot be found within space. They stand outside the gate of being.” Tarthung Tulku’s Knowledge of Time and Space (Oakland, Dharma Press, 1990), p. 10
    Riddle Sideways: thank you
    --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: our experience with space is in the present
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Riddle Sideways: let's take that tone for a while
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: the past and future are in our minds
    Adams Rubble: like a movie
    Riddle Sideways: there becomes a mental exercise, at remembering the sofa Being over there
    Riddle Sideways: or how the movie might go If the sofa were against that wall
    Adams Rubble: Pema might say the present is like a movie but he is not talking about time I think
    Riddle Sideways: movie as Presentation
    Adams Rubble: my internet is getting shaky so I may didappear
    Adams Rubble: disappear
    Adams Rubble: so far just flashing off and on
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm, prophetic weirdo says "it might happen to any of us" ㋡
    Adams Rubble: I remember Stim urging us to live in the rpesent
    Riddle Sideways: remembering so many urging that
    Adams Rubble: and I remember using the 90 seconds to try to make sure i was in the present
    Adams Rubble: tough job for an historian
    Adams Rubble: but usually the problem is worrying about the future
    Adams Rubble: squirreling away our nuts
    Riddle Sideways: remembering a martial arts instructor slapping this head and saying to stop being elsewhere
    Adams Rubble: ooooooo
    Adams Rubble: good to be elsewhere when dentist drilling for oil in your mouth
    Riddle Sideways: even almost 'in the present' one can stand behind oneself and judge, watch, laugh
    Adams Rubble: especially in SL :)
    Riddle Sideways: is ok in SL to stand behind watching yerself walk off a clief
    Adams Rubble giggles
    Riddle Sideways: in a present there is a new tea house that has appeared
    Adams Rubble: or drive a four horse chariot out of the circus maximus into the sea
    Riddle Sideways: remembering that it was a field of grass with rabbits
    Adams Rubble: the passage seemed so profound when I read it last night
    Riddle Sideways: it still is this morning
    Riddle Sideways: however, reading a passage and drifting off into (thought, dreams, sleep, contemplation)
    Riddle Sideways: adds so much
    Riddle Sideways: a tip to add to your practice is to rest the heavy book on a lap or bed when drifting off ㋡
    Riddle Sideways: so it does not fall to the floor
    --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: This has been a new thing for me
    Riddle Sideways: this might be one of the most personal exercises practiced, nearly daily
    Riddle Sideways: nightly
    Adams Rubble: have to be careful with my Kindle
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Riddle Sideways: noting that it is a certain type of reading that does that
    Riddle Sideways: the wind down, pleasure reading. That seems ok to drift off the page into ones own invented, lived, wished, tried story
    Riddle Sideways: Fact reading needs full attention ! ㋡
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm, levels of reading
    Adams Rubble: that sounds right
    Riddle Sideways: Now then. Keep being drawn back to the quote's end sentence. in which being is a present space
    Adams Rubble: feed your mind well
    Riddle Sideways: which is in line with the sentiment being said
    Adams Rubble: being with a small b
    Adams Rubble: werb to be
    Adams Rubble: verb
    Riddle Sideways: where Large B Being
    Adams Rubble: living in space
    Riddle Sideways: is living at the End
    Riddle Sideways: right now
    Riddle Sideways: and is probably a made up reality (?)
    Riddle Sideways: no
    Adams Rubble: no
    Riddle Sideways: Be There Now
    Adams Rubble: we don't see everything
    Adams Rubble: yes be there now
    Riddle Sideways: nice book title
    Adams Rubble: to be there now or not to be there now
    Riddle Sideways: looks to see if Ram Dass has writen that yet
    Riddle Sideways: that is the question
    Riddle Sideways: you are therefore commanded to Be There Now
    Riddle Sideways: or how about we Be There NOw
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: and Timing of pauses is important
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡
    Adams Rubble: frequent pauses help us see
    Adams Rubble: a rival faction forms holding up signs saying "Be Here Now"
    Riddle Sideways: nah, have been with that faction before
    Adams Rubble giggles
    Riddle Sideways: yep
    Riddle Sideways: take frequent pauses to review what you just read
    Riddle Sideways: think deeply
    Riddle Sideways: close eyes to shut out distractional cats
    Riddle Sideways: but, come back when book hits the floor
    Adams Rubble: my eyes keep closing because they are sore and I start to drift off
    Adams Rubble: the book shouts "Be present!"
    Adams Rubble: in space
    Riddle Sideways: yes, Book Sir
    Riddle Sideways: take this present that is given
    Riddle Sideways: (or maybe) As Given
    Adams Rubble: There's a lot more Tarthang Tulku where that came from
    Riddle Sideways: do you think it is an accident that the word present(now) and present(gift) are the same?
    Adams Rubble: the etimological dictionary would tell ya
    Adams Rubble: mine are upstairs
    Adams Rubble: the print on my OED is too small for me to see with a magnifying glass anymore
    Riddle Sideways: probably could waste the time finding out, but Play is more fun
    Adams Rubble: have to photograph a section and blow it up
    Adams Rubble: I am going to have to go at the hour
    Riddle Sideways: yes. can hear RL moving around and getting ready
    Riddle Sideways: so many presents coming today
    Adams Rubble: :)))
    Riddle Sideways: will have hours in a car to see new presents
    Adams Rubble: I am going to look it up and hopefully remember to tell you
    Riddle Sideways: or is that spelt "here is a presence"
    Adams Rubble: maybe I'll put it in the comments
    Adams Rubble: or edit it in
    Riddle Sideways: which ever the editor or other avatar wants to do

    Both words derice from the Old French "present" from the Latin praesentem "being at hand". In 14th century Middle English it took on the meaning "abiding in a specified place". Present as a gift comes from the Old French "present" but from Middle Latin "presentia". It is something brought into someone's presence.

    Adams Rubble: I hope you have a wonderful weekend
    Riddle Sideways: been planned for months
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: sounds like you might also be off onto the next planned presents
    Adams Rubble: mine is yet unplanned
    Adams Rubble: but waiting for the car to get fixed again
    Riddle Sideways: one of those "go to this place and wait"
    Adams Rubble: it developed a rhythic banging in the rear on the NJ Turnpike - counting the bangs on the NJ Turnpike
    Riddle Sideways singing along
    Adams Rubble: have a zoom mtg in an hour
    Riddle Sideways: the NY turnpikes have that thump built in
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Adams Rubble: so does the NY Governor
    Riddle Sideways: hehehe
    --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: well take good care Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: ok, be good, be safe and go on with life
    Riddle Sideways: by All
    Adams Rubble: bye

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