2020.05.06 13:00 - An illusive big fish

Added comments are by Eliza.

Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Wol
Wol Euler: hello aph, hello eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hello!
Wol Euler: you are very colourful tonight
Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
Aphrodite Macbain: Do you dance the rhumba with roombas?
Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
Wol Euler: I ride on them :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: but this way sounded better
Aphrodite Macbain: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hey Bruce
Wol Euler: hello bruce
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bruce, Eliza
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, WOl, Eliza, and Aph.
Bruce Mowbray: I'm going to grab a mug of coffee before we get started... brb....
Eliza Madrigal: Nice feeling, seeing friends' names pop online
Eliza Madrigal: Ok Bruce sys
Wol Euler: sm
Aphrodite Macbain: yes :)
Wol Euler smiles.

Eliza Madrigal: I'm working again (in home/out of home) so my being here may be less reliable, but I think Wednesdays will generally be good for a bit
Eliza Madrigal: HiDruth
Aphrodite Macbain: Hey druth
druth Vlodovic: Hi Eliza, everybody
druth Vlodovic: what are you doing?
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, druth.
Eliza Madrigal: selling organizing stuff/designing closets, and a little research work at home
Bruce Mowbray: Just waiting for folks to arrive.
Aphrodite Macbain: doing?
Eliza Madrigal: nice balance really, at this second, although things keep changing don't they!
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: are you enjoying it`
Wol Euler: ?
Eliza Madrigal: goodness yes
Aphrodite Macbain: I just had a meeting on Zoom - my Italian conversation class
druth Vlodovic: so if I send you pics of my home you can fix it for me?
Bruce Mowbray: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I felt so good to go back into the store and meet people's eyes again (rest of face covered ;-)
[Should clarify store is not fully open - just for pick-ups and appointments]
Eliza Madrigal: hah... maybe Druth ^.^
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Alma.
Wol Euler: hello alma, druth
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Alma
druth Vlodovic: How was your Italian Aph?
druth Vlodovic: Hi Wol
Almadi Masala: hi Bruce, Aph, druth, Eliza, Wol, Bleu

--BELL--

druth Vlodovic: Alma
Eliza Madrigal: How are you all doing?
Wol Euler: feeling like I don't want to go back to the office, ever
Eliza Madrigal: in a good way? or dread way?
Wol Euler: dread, mostly
Aphrodite Macbain: why- because you've been there too long?
Eliza Madrigal: :(
Wol Euler: having a strong case of "don't wanna" today
Aphrodite Macbain: or there is a lt of work waiting
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu
Wol Euler: hello bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi y'all
druth Vlodovic: now you have an excuse to walk softly and carry a big (6 foot) stick when you do go back
Aphrodite Macbain: Hey Bleu!
druth Vlodovic: hey Bleu
Wol Euler: hello tura
Aphrodite Macbain: Ji Tura
Tura Brezoianu: hi all
Eliza Madrigal: Maybe your body has begun to remember what resting is like
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tura
Wol Euler: ha, yes
druth Vlodovic: Tura :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Bleu. Hi, Tura.
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Luci
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Luci
Wol Euler: I am definitely remembering that there once was a time when I had "me" time
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Lucinda.
Almadi Masala: hi Tura and Luci
Wol Euler: enough to read books and be in SL and keep my apartment clean
Eliza Madrigal: wow, nice
Wol Euler: hello luci
Lucinda Lavender: Hello everyone
Bleu Oleander: hi Luci :)
Lucinda Lavender: I am thinking about reseating myself

druth Vlodovic: I think the biggest problem with the "regular" work week isn't the time as much as the drain of energy
Eliza Madrigal: tendency to push yourself? not take breaks?
Aphrodite Macbain: It helps if you like your coworkers and enjoy jour job
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: that's a big part of anything
Aphrodite Macbain: I kinda miss my coworkers but it's been like this since I've retired
Aphrodite Macbain: so I'm used to it
Lucinda Lavender: how long has that been?
Wol Euler: I have been wondering if this is a kind of rehearsal for retirement
Eliza Madrigal: My grandfather used to tell me, "When I sold my business, I sold my friends"
Aphrodite Macbain: 10 years :)
Lucinda Lavender: ah...
Aphrodite Macbain: I've also moved
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, you've done a lot to keep busy and make connections in that time
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Arabella
Wol Euler: hello ara, wb luci
arabella Ella: Hiya everyone!
druth Vlodovic: hi Ara
Aphrodite Macbain: Yes :) and developed new habits
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, arabella.
Aphrodite Macbain: I stay in bed sometimes till noon. reading boks, reading my enails, playing scrabble
Aphrodite Macbain: I've stopped feeling guilty
Eliza Madrigal: yay
Wol Euler: excellent :)
Aphrodite Macbain: :)
Lucinda Lavender: that is nice
Eliza Madrigal: guilt can be such a monster
arabella Ella: sounds great Aph!

Aphrodite Macbain: My cat likes my new schedule too
Aphrodite Macbain: Longer lap time...
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Aphrodite Macbain: :)
druth Vlodovic: well, that's the only vote you really need
Lucinda Lavender: I still have my chickens but since my husband is retired now he gets them up.
Bleu Oleander: my dog loves my new schedule :)
druth Vlodovic: now it's time for just curling up wherever you are and taking a nap
arabella Ella: Do you then go to bed later too Aph?
Eliza Madrigal: You used to wake the chickens, Luci? I thought it was supposed to be the other way around? ^.^
Aphrodite Macbain: yes - usually 11 pm
arabella Ella: cool
Almadi Masala: lazy chickens?
arabella Ella: and normally?
Aphrodite Macbain: eggs for your omlette?
Eliza Madrigal: haha
Lucinda Lavender: well haha..I would let them out. Tehy get kind of insistent.
Lucinda Lavender: they
Aphrodite Macbain: Do you have a rooter?
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: rooster :)
Lucinda Lavender: nope
Lucinda Lavender: just 2 girs
Lucinda Lavender: girls
Aphrodite Macbain: cluck cluck
Lucinda Lavender: The eggs are worth the effort
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: My sister has about 12 chickens and one happy rooster.
Aphrodite Macbain: They are really beautiful
Almadi Masala: ha! one of my neighbors is trying to give away a rooster
Lucinda Lavender: does she also have them out side of town sort of?
Aphrodite Macbain: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: way outside
Lucinda Lavender: ah
Aphrodite Macbain: in farming country
Eliza Madrigal: If one neighbor has a rooster seems everyone would have one? :) At least morning wake-call wise
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Aphrodite Macbain: as long as they crow at the same time...
Aphrodite Macbain: Robbie the rooster...

Eliza Madrigal: Funny how we end up having bird talk again
Bleu Oleander: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Did we before?
Eliza Madrigal nods... a few weeks ago was a lot of bird conversation.. the week Mick was wearing the hoopoe shirt
Lucinda Lavender: this time of year the birds are pretty active
druth Vlodovic: every time people have relaxed conversations it turns to animals
Aphrodite Macbain: oh right!
Almadi Masala: I've had some interesting animal dreams lately
Aphrodite Macbain: oh?
Eliza Madrigal: Oh? patterns?
Lucinda Lavender: listens:)
Bleu Oleander: without all the cars, people and pollution, birds seem happier and thriving better :)

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: very true
Aphrodite Macbain: nods and we can hear them better
Almadi Masala: oh, I don't want to go into all of them, but last night I was by a pool of water and saw a very big fish
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Mick.
Aphrodite Macbain: Hey Mick
Mickorod Renard: Hi Guys
Almadi Masala: hi Mick
Eliza Madrigal hopes we can keep some of these silver linings and make them norms
Lucinda Lavender: hi MIck
Bleu Oleander: hi Mick
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, neat, Alma
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick
Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder what fish mean
arabella Ella: Hiya Mick!
Almadi Masala: every time I looked at it, it seemed to get bigger
Mickorod Renard: cool
Eliza Madrigal: David Lynch talks about meditation and insight like catching fish, being patient for the big ones, and in Japan, catfish are thought to cause earthquakes
Wol Euler: hello mick
Almadi Masala: interesting, Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: I've been meaning to look up the catfish myths for more detail, but haven't done so yet
Eliza Madrigal: Have always loved the stories of the carp who becomes a dragon
Almadi Masala: must have some mighty big catfish in Japan
Eliza Madrigal: :))
druth Vlodovic: "Local fish goes for a walk, blocks road."
Eliza Madrigal: haha, seems like the basis for a good comic
druth Vlodovic: or is it lung fish that walk around?
Almadi Masala: I think there is a species of catfish that can walk on land for some distance between lakes and pools
Wol Euler: lungfish, yes
Tura Brezoianu: Next thing you know, they'll be developing legs.
Eliza Madrigal grins
druth Vlodovic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZg0s2wmZFI
druth Vlodovic: not the best video but the mkusic makes up for it

Lucinda Lavender: I have had thqat kind of dream where things change size like that. for me it was rocks in a road

Mickorod Renard: maybe this covid is the start of our next mutation?
Almadi Masala: cool! thank you druth
Eliza Madrigal: love it
Lucinda Lavender: some kind of evolution in process
druth Vlodovic: the singularity was about making people slow down and reconnect with themselves
Eliza Madrigal: I do wonder how it will ultimately change us, and the ways we do business, what we value
Mickorod Renard: when it first started a friend suggested it was a cull
Almadi Masala: I wonder if it will permanently change our sense of personal space -- what distance we feel most comfortable being apart while conversing with other people
arabella Ella: Sadly I do not think it will change much
arabella Ella: In countries that are beginning to open up it seems people are very quickly going back to their old habits
Eliza Madrigal: gestures are much more important now
Mickorod Renard: it just makes me want or long to get close
Wol Euler: so many things being looked at as though for the first time
Wol Euler: a chance to reconsider
Eliza Madrigal nods
arabella Ella: if only
Wol Euler: which is exactly why the bilionaires and neofascist politicians want us to go back to work immediately
Eliza Madrigal: We're still going to need to use words, which is where things seem to go awry
arabella Ella nods sadly
Wol Euler: hello san
Eliza Madrigal: Hi San
Lucinda Lavender: hi San!
Aphrodite Macbain: Hi San
arabella Ella: Hiya San!
Santoshima Resident: hello :)
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, San.
Bleu Oleander: hi San
Almadi Masala: hi San
Mickorod Renard: I cant understand why we are expected to work anyway, what with all the automation we could have instead
Mickorod Renard: Hi san
Tura Brezoianu: There's lots of people talking about how this is a total reset, so we should all do things their way from now on.
Lucinda Lavender: Today I have an appt to go buy shoes:)
Aphrodite Macbain: :)

arabella Ella: Oh and some of us never really stopped working, we simply had to shift to doing what we do online
Lucinda Lavender: a new way:)
druth Vlodovic: you can't have servants if you can't oppress people enough to remove their egos
Aphrodite Macbain: how?
Tura Brezoianu: Yes, instead of working at the computer all day in my office, I work at it all day at home.
arabella Ella: me too
Wol Euler nods.
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: Perhaps no one can truly imagine better systems .. too frightening to implement some things until it becomes a necessity of crisis
Aphrodite Macbain: Is that better or worse Tura?

--BELL--

Tura Brezoianu: I don't really notice, as far as work is concerned. It does save on interruptions from people who "just want to ask a quick question". :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: You must miss the comany, no?
Aphrodite Macbain: company
Almadi Masala: attempts at planning complex new social systems never work out as intended
arabella Ella: is anyone else scared about the contact tracing apps being proposed, they sound like big brother
Bleu Oleander: for me since I work at home anyway, not much has changed
Eliza Madrigal: I was surprised to be so affected, since I generally can handle long periods of just my own company in my own space
Tura Brezoianu: Not me, really. I miss the drumming group I play with.
Aphrodite Macbain: I mainly mis going to cafes with friends now that the weather is nice
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Tura Brezoianu: And concert, and cafes.
Eliza Madrigal: oh yes, definitely
Aphrodite Macbain: I long to sit outside with a latte in my hand
Mickorod Renard: I think the contact tracing is only a minor ingression compared to what we volunteer to google each day
druth Vlodovic: tracking apps have been scary for decades, and opting out of them just means they don't tell you and you get put on a list
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bleu Oleander: your car and your phone probably already track you
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm not sure why anyone would be interested in what they discover about me.
Bleu Oleander: haha
druth Vlodovic: I saw a video where somebody hooked their oscillating fan up to their mouse to make their "productivity tracker" happy
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Almadi Masala: lol
arabella Ella smiles
Eliza Madrigal: it seems a double-edged sword

Aphrodite Macbain: There is someone who s threatening to expose my bad habits to my friends. I say "good luck"
Aphrodite Macbain: Bruce got those emails too
druth Vlodovic: somebody once said that once you find a metric that can be used to track productivity that metric is no longer useful
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes the idea that someone might help me tweak my habits by really getting to know them seems like a great idea
druth Vlodovic: the secret is to do your bad habits with your friends
Tura Brezoianu: Goodhart's Law.
Aphrodite Macbain: I am tempted to ask them why they have to waste their time sending out threatening emails. Surely they have something better to do
Eliza Madrigal: maybe not, Aph
Bruce Mowbray: Hear hear, Aph.
druth Vlodovic: "If you do I'll tell your mother what sort of emails you send to people"
Aphrodite Macbain: I've received 3 so far, one nastier than the previous one
Wol Euler: ignore it
arabella Ella: about what?
Aphrodite Macbain: I have
Bruce Mowbray: Only one, so far, for moi.
Eliza Madrigal: yikes
Bruce Mowbray: Ransom threats.
Aphrodite Macbain: but it's upsetting nevertheless
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, it is indeed, Aph.
Aphrodite Macbain: how can people be so awful?
Tura Brezoianu: I've occasionally received that sort of thing. I just ignore them.
Wol Euler: for money
Tura Brezoianu: "Living well is the best revenge."
Bruce Mowbray: Ignoring them is best.
Bruce Mowbray: also, report them to the Bitcoin Abuse Database.
Aphrodite Macbain: I do but it rnakles
Aphrodite Macbain: rankles
Wol Euler: it's not about or to you
Bruce Mowbray: rankles, indeed... and I like that word.
Aphrodite Macbain: It;'s a new name each time
Santoshima Resident: ignore it, it is auto-sent spam. best to not engage with it at all, file in junk mail for reference, block the address and continue to block, just a thought, Aph. maybe do a painting of it as botanical form
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
druth Vlodovic: the worst bit is knowing how pointless and stupid most HR departments are
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: It would be an ugly plant
arabella Ella: probably bots with self generating stuff
Bruce Mowbray: The extortionists send them out to hundreds of people at once, and from fake email addresses....
Wol Euler: a piece of software found your email address in a purchased list and pasted it into a piece of standand text. Humans only get involved if you bite the bait
druth Vlodovic: yeah, just mark them as spam and they stop after a few weeks
Bruce Mowbray: Right! Don't bite!
Aphrodite Macbain: They have one of my passwords
Aphrodite Macbain: I havene't
Santoshima Resident: uhm, change that password
Santoshima Resident: and still ignore
Aphrodite Macbain: I have
Wol Euler: right
druth Vlodovic: probably a good time to change all your passwords

Mickorod Renard: I like Drutrhs idea about bad habits best done with friends
Wol Euler: server security is still too weak, too often
Aphrodite Macbain: I've changed abaout 10 so far
Aphrodite Macbain: such a time waster
Santoshima Resident: like brushing your teeth, Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: :)
druth Vlodovic: I get emails about "unauthroized login attempt" but I never use the link from the email in case the warning is a phishing mail
Wol Euler: absolutely
Wol Euler: the link is ALWAYS fake in any such make
Wol Euler: never ever click it
Eliza Madrigal: @mick, maybe it is a level of friendship where one doesn't hide and microcategorize their habits and is just comfortable
Wol Euler: if you think the problem might be genuine, then log on to that website in your usual way
Aphrodite Macbain: we have all had to become paranoid
Wol Euler: if there is a problem, the site will tell you
Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Wol.... Is it possible for someone to control your webcam without your permission?
druth Vlodovic: I have wondered what effect it has on us being lied to continuously from a young age
Wol Euler: never click on an email link
Mickorod Renard: Yes Eliza, I agree
Wol Euler: yes, bruce, if your computer is compromised tehy can capture webcam and microphone and all your keystrokes
Bruce Mowbray: I have mine covered up... except for ZOOM meetings.
druth Vlodovic: but then I see the sorts of warnings people get about scams while travelling and I'm not sure the West has the worst of it
Wol Euler: so do I

Tura Brezoianu: When I see a suspicious email, I recite the mantra "IT'S A SCAM, IT'S ALWAYS A SCAM", then take a look to figure out what the scam is in this one.
Bruce Mowbray: Oh dear.
Eliza Madrigal: that's how I watch the news ;-)
Aphrodite Macbain: I get so many creative emails from Nigeria too
Wol Euler: Wol's Law: every unsolicited offer to solve a problem you didn't know you had, is an attempt to defraud you.
druth Vlodovic: if I got an email telling me someone was doing something "wrong" I'd probably just tell them and then ignore it
Aphrodite Macbain: amazing how many stories the can create
Aphrodite Macbain: they
Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder who believes them
Bleu Oleander: someone must or they wouldn't keep doing it
Wol Euler: people with guilty consciences would :)
Aphrodite Macbain: Bank of Nigeria, Federal Savings Bank etc
druth Vlodovic: more it's not my problem to tell people how to behave
Aphrodite Macbain: I wish there were a way of virtually smacking them :)
Tura Brezoianu: It's said that some scams are deliberately obvious, so as to ensure that their victims are stupid.
Aphrodite Macbain: lol

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: :)
Almadi Masala: they are the cock roaches of the cyber ecosystem. they have found a niche and are exploiting it
arabella Ella: give them fake details perhaps?
Eliza Madrigal: vulnerable... finding the one struggling to keep up
Almadi Masala: they tend to pray on the elderly and the lonely
Mickorod Renard: is it not a part of evolution too?
Almadi Masala: prey*
Aphrodite Macbain: "what did you do with your life? " I trolled the internet and took advantage of vulnerable people?
Bruce Mowbray: Interesting quesation, Mick.
Bruce Mowbray: question*
Aphrodite Macbain: how so Mick?
Tura Brezoianu: Like Covid-19, preying on the weak.
Eliza Madrigal: Harari has been giving interviews lately, and one of the things he talks about is how vulnerable we are because our behaviors can be tracked so well, to know us better than we know ourselves
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Bruce Mowbray also nods.
Eliza Madrigal: even things like, time of day we might be most susceptible to such n suh

Mickorod Renard: I am sometimes drawn to think of impermanance
Wol Euler smiles modestly.
Eliza Madrigal: such*, which is why people buy stuff in the middle of the night... ridiculous informercials
Eliza Madrigal: Go on, Mick?
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm never awake in the middle of the night
Aphrodite Macbain: why impermanence?
druth Vlodovic: "Hey Elexa, what do I feel like having for supper tonight?"
druth Vlodovic: actually that one might work for me
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: :)
Almadi Masala: lol
Lucinda Lavender: I was reading some articles on the phone this morning early. one about Amazon having their employees wear trackers and another article about working from home and being tracked. ...then I went back to sleep for an hour and had a dream about seeing two robots in a physical fight.
Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder who won
Bruce Mowbray: omg.
Eliza Madrigal: good visual representation
Aphrodite Macbain: creepy
druth Vlodovic: nobody wins a fight except the doctor
Lucinda Lavender: apparently my remote for tv had opened a door into seeing this
Bruce Mowbray: Metaphors everywhere.
Mickorod Renard: I was thinking the richness we enjoy in life is due to the many changes we see
arabella Ella: I was reading about Cambridge Analytica and Facebook and harvesting of data also from online quizzes to influence voting preferences
Bruce Mowbray: Beautiful idea, Mick.
Eliza Madrigal: innovations
Aphrodite Macbain: nods at Mick
druth Vlodovic: I can see smart people fixing their trackers to cheap rhoombas and bringing them to work
Lucinda Lavender: :))
Mickorod Renard: covid and spam and hackers are all in the melting pot of change
Wol Euler: and huge killer hornets
Mickorod Renard: he he
Aphrodite Macbain: change is how things evolve
Aphrodite Macbain: for better or worse
Eliza Madrigal: The Cambridge Analytica stuff infuriates me, because so obvious in retrospect, but what good can that do now
Bleu Oleander: killer hornets! nasty critters
Almadi Masala: "always look on the bright side of death"
Bruce Mowbray: Do the revolutions of The Great Wheel give us hope.... ?
Aphrodite Macbain: The Japanese eat them

arabella Ella: we can learn from what happened with Cambridge Analytica Eliza
Bleu Oleander: supposed to be tasty
Aphrodite Macbain: what can we learn Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: It seems so, but then the next thing (whatever it is) is already underway
Wol Euler: for certain values of "we"
Eliza Madrigal: it feels like we can't learn in time
Eliza Madrigal: (to me it feels that way)
Bleu Oleander: in theory
Lucinda Lavender: like time is sped up?
druth Vlodovic: maybe all the CEOs are secretly Marxists and are setting up the next revolution
arabella Ella: we can learn about how our behaviour online influences the way the web reacts to us
Santoshima Resident: is there deep fried batter involved in the hornet dish? send if so
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, steve.
arabella Ella: Hiya Steve!
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Stevie
Bleu Oleander: hi Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: oops, hello
Santoshima Resident: hello steve
Wol Euler: hello stevie
Lucinda Lavender: hi Steve
Eliza Madrigal: we're having fried hornets for dinner over zoom, Stevie
arabella Ella: we can learn to avoid having fun with psychological quizzes online with simply harvest data
Aphrodite Macbain: waves atStevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: sorry I'm late
Mickorod Renard: yes, I bet this independent element we often do not enjoy breaks down lock out
Eliza Madrigal: true, Ara
Mickorod Renard: hi Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: before everyone leaves, .....
Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting idea Arabella
Bruce Mowbray: Our independence will break down the lockout?
Mickorod Renard: spanner in the works
Santoshima Resident: clink on a glass, stev
druth Vlodovic: each time you do a quiz take it a dozen times in different ways, see what sort of ads you start getting
Bleu Oleander: listens to Steve

stevenaia Michinaga: should anyone be interested taking over my Owner and Treasurer position for the next year, please contact me, it;s really asy. I've been doing it the past few years... but I am getting RL busy now

druth Vlodovic: listens...
arabella Ella: quite a few online quizzes give the same profile to everyone who takes them
stevenaia Michinaga: *easy
Aphrodite Macbain: do they?
Santoshima Resident: repeat please steve .... important PaB service announcement ^
Bleu Oleander: what's involved Steve?
arabella Ella: i've seen a few that do
Aphrodite Macbain: how does that happen?
Mickorod Renard: yes Ara, i am always a genius, and thats totally wrong he he
arabella Ella: he he
Mickorod Renard: bait
arabella Ella: yes too many people get 100 percent I've made deliberate errors at times and I still get 100 percent
stevenaia Michinaga: basically tracking dollars and lindens and set up your SL account to autopay
stevenaia Michinaga: donations from the guardians to fund the land we own
Bruce Mowbray: PAB's Owner and Treasurer position is now open. . . Steve is requesting that someone volunteer to take it over....
Santoshima Resident: ty
stevenaia Michinaga: I can give anyone the details
Eliza Madrigal: It is about the time of year in which we make decisions about contributions, etc. too, generally, isn't it?
stevenaia Michinaga: will send out an all Guardians request shortly
stevenaia Michinaga: yes we ahve until mid-july to re-fund ourselves
stevenaia Michinaga: or come to the WG meeting tonight at 8:00 SLT and learn all about it
Bruce Mowbray: Everyone stay safe, help everyone you can, and enjoy your day on lanet Earth. I need to go now. Bye, everyone.
Wol Euler: 5am for me, sorry
Eliza Madrigal: Okay, thanks. I would love to volunteer but I really can't right now... am already pulled in different directions organizationally (just filed extension to do taxes even)
stevenaia Michinaga: it's more about keeping track which is on a google sheet
Santoshima Resident: bye Bruce
Wol Euler: bye bruce
Mickorod Renard: bye Bruce
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bruce
arabella Ella: bye Brucie!
Aphrodite Macbain: waves
Mickorod Renard: take care
stevenaia Michinaga: Eliza, taxes aren;t due until July due or virus
stevenaia Michinaga: due to...

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: yes... I got permission earlier, but really it is just a matter of presence of mind to hunker down
Eliza Madrigal: which I haven't had, so don't feel confident doing group finance stuff
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Lucinda Lavender: I will have to go now, nice to see everyone.
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Luci
Bleu Oleander: bye Luci
Aphrodite Macbain: Bye Luci
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Luci
Wol Euler: bye luci
arabella Ella: bye Luci
Tura Brezoianu: bye Luci
Eliza Madrigal: I'll be online tonight, but in a different meeting... feel free to IM me if needed
stevenaia Michinaga: our own flying rainbow
Mickorod Renard: bye luci
Eliza Madrigal grins
Eliza Madrigal: juicy fruit Lucy
Bleu Oleander: :)
Almadi Masala: I need to get back to RL too. good to see you all
Wol Euler: bye alma, bye aph
Aphrodite Macbain: Byee
Eliza Madrigal: good to see you too Alma
arabella Ella: bye Alma, Aph
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Aph
druth Vlodovic: I'm off, ttfn
Mickorod Renard: bye alma
Bleu Oleander: I must go too ... see you at 8 for WG Steve and San :)
Wol Euler: bye druth
Mickorod Renard: bye druth
Tura Brezoianu: bye people
Wol Euler: bye!
Mickorod Renard: ye tura
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu
Santoshima Resident: bye
Bleu Oleander: take care all
Mickorod Renard: bye blue
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Tura and Stevie
Santoshima Resident: Bleu, might you like to have a solo exhibit at Ribong this year?
stevenaia Michinaga: bye Eliza, Hope I didn;t interrupt the flow of the meeting
Mickorod Renard: bye stevei
arabella Ella: I'm off too bye everyone!
Wol Euler: bye to all leaving <3
Mickorod Renard: bye ara
Wol Euler: take care, stay healthy
Eliza Madrigal: Important to let everyone know what's going on
Santoshima Resident: ops wrong window
Mickorod Renard: bye everyone
Santoshima Resident: but mesage teh same nonetheless
Wol Euler: quite riht
Wol Euler: *right

stevenaia Michinaga: nice pearls San
Eliza Madrigal: So many interesting people in this group, can't help but try to glean from a million topics each time we're together
Santoshima Resident: ty steve
Wol Euler smiles.
Santoshima Resident: have been watching ttHe Crwon
Santoshima Resident: The Crown
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, that was so good this season
Santoshima Resident: it has been great
Eliza Madrigal: quality of acting... wonderful
stevenaia Michinaga: see those who choose, tonight at the WG mtg
Wol Euler smiles.
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks
Eliza Madrigal: :) And Wol, keep resting
Eliza Madrigal: ^.^
Wol Euler: I hope not to be awake at 5am to attend
Wol Euler: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hah
Santoshima Resident: :)
Eliza Madrigal: rest = balancing all the good things to do
Wol Euler: having said that just jinxed myself, of course :)
stevenaia Michinaga: :) I usually am, the cats make sure of that
Eliza Madrigal: :) dog is opposite
Eliza Madrigal: he's got a strict bedtime and wants me to keep it
Wol Euler: hehehehh
Wol Euler: "who's in charge here?!?"
Eliza Madrigal: clearly, we know
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Wol Euler: right :)
Eliza Madrigal: Okay, many hugs and good night
Santoshima Resident: nite nite
Wol Euler: goodnight San
Wol Euler: you have such a distinctive and lovely sense of style
Santoshima Resident: nite Wol sweet dreams
Santoshima Resident: oh, ty :)
Santoshima Resident: you as well, dear
Wol Euler: it's awlays a delight to see you and examine what you are wearing :)
Santoshima Resident: ahha, it helps focus the days, coming to dress this avatar doll
Wol Euler: yeah
Wol Euler: c19 brought me back here
Wol Euler: and that's good
Santoshima Resident: glad to see you ~ it is a little the same for me, had stayed away for the last months
Wol Euler nods.
Santoshima Resident: i better get to work ... a new installation in the wings at Rigbong ... so needing to do my part for that today ~
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: take care, San
Wol Euler: stay healthy
Santoshima Resident: thank you Wol, you as well