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Accept all suffering: a how-to

Bertram Jacobus: yesterday i had a great insight : i could accept that suffering - as all - is unlimited ... :-)

Pema Pera: sorry, Bert, could you tell us more about that?

Bertram Jacobus: yes. sure. before i always had problems with that. because so i thought, no end of suffering would be possible ... but then i saw, that when one gets rid of the ego - thats a solution
Fael Illyar: what would it mean to get rid of the ego?
Bertram Jacobus: and my impression is, that ego comes up only in this life, at a certain age. don´t know when exactly. but little children or babies seem not to have it yet. so one can get rid of it again, too
Storm Nordwind remembers we mentioned something a little like this last week.
Paul Namiboo: Got to go -- duty calls, but thanks for the relaxation. Bye:)
Bertram Jacobus: to overcome it. to get part of all again. without hindrances. the wu wei state
Fael Illyar: Have fun Paul :)
Storm Nordwind: Bye Paul
Storm Nordwind waves
Pema Pera: bye Paul!
Bertram Jacobus: bye paul
Fael Illyar: Would Ego, as in your thoughts, be the separation of self and other?
Bertram Jacobus: i don´t make such a big difference between ego and self
Bertram Jacobus: and so in my understanding - yes, ego as well as self makes this difference
Bertram Jacobus: this separation (sry)
Bertram Jacobus: but i think, correct is the following : there is seperation as well as no seperation. relative and absolute sight or state
--BELL--
Fael Illyar: it exists but is impermanent
Bertram Jacobus: yes. aspects of the relative field ...
Storm Nordwind: Do you find, bert, that Play as Being practice is helpful to your realizing this?
Bertram Jacobus: ah
Bertram Jacobus: may be yes :-)
Storm Nordwind smiles

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Storm Nordwind: Last week, Bert, I briefly mentioned the Buddhist idea of emptiness. And that if the apparent cause of the suffering and its recipient and the suffering itself were empty then it can help with patient acceptance.
Storm Nordwind: Hi there Yak , ara and Aidan
Bertram Jacobus: oh i see. thanks for the information storm !
Can Play as Being help us find reality just by making us stop?

Storm Nordwind: I like Play as Being's insistent reminder! Every 15 minutes I can be reminded to check what's really important, what's really real... all these things. Poking holes in illusion every 15 minutes! :)
Bertram Jacobus: for sake i´m not so disciplined ...
Bertram Jacobus: but the idea of this ultrashort meditations already is a great help
Storm Nordwind points out he said "can be" reminded, not always is! He is not always so disciplined either!
Bertram Jacobus: also when one does it only not regulary i think
Aidan Spiritor: nice to meet you too
Fael Illyar: I found that the bell sound, in itself, even without really noticing it was having an effect too.
Fael Illyar: after a long time of hearing it and doing the pauses
Storm Nordwind nods to Fael
Aidan Spiritor: I found your profile very interesting--as a former theoretical chemist and mathemarician
Fael Illyar: but it was an effect that didn't interrupt anything
Bertram Jacobus: sounds like a nice experience fael ... :-)
Storm Nordwind: It's a small ritual, at the very least. My wife and I were studying a practice that involves some ritual actions, words and thoughts, and she questioned whether the rituals were useful. But I said, "What else would you be doing instead of the ritual?" :)
arabella Ella: I feel that quite a few of us need to be more disciplined Bert :)