2017.04.25 07:00 - PaB lessons learned? (part 1)

    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways. 
    The title is in anticipation that further discussions on the topic might happen :)

    Just like "The First Annual ..."

     


                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: welcome, Adams
    Adams Rubble: Thank you
    Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle :)

    Adams Rubble: My rler is back from a bicycle ride in the rain--all wet
    Riddle Sideways: oooo wet bike ride
    Adams Rubble: the park was very pretty
    Riddle Sideways: the stripe up your back
    Adams Rubble: it wasn't supposed to rain during this hour :)
    Adams Rubble: no, rler has fenders-no stripe
    Riddle Sideways: never seems to listen to the fore casters
    Adams Rubble: do not know why it became a thing to take fenders off bikes
    Riddle Sideways: all that wind resistance and weight
    Adams Rubble: fenders very light
    Adams Rubble: plastic now
    Adams Rubble: my reler is content to bicycle more slowly and not risk banged up body parts :0
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Riddle Sideways: use to want all available weight and drag reduced
    Riddle Sideways: for more speed with less effort
    Riddle Sideways: missed part of the nice easy ride in the park
    Adams Rubble: effort good for creating lots of deep breathing :)
    Adams Rubble: my rler could use much more of that -- not fit like me
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Riddle Sideways: this one isn't either
    Riddle Sideways: did 10K bends this weekend
    Adams Rubble: you or your rler?
    Riddle Sideways: bend over, pull a weed, straighten up, repeat
    Riddle Sideways: RLer
    Adams Rubble: ohh weeds
    Adams Rubble: :)


    Adams Rubble: should we try to spin a topic today?
    Riddle Sideways: yes, lets
    Riddle Sideways: let's
    Riddle Sideways: whichever
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: had a topic last night
    Adams Rubble: let us topic
    Riddle Sideways: forgotten now
    Adams Rubble: awwww
    Adams Rubble: I think I may have too

    Riddle Sideways: something about PaB lessons
    Riddle Sideways: studies done?
    Riddle Sideways: archives, musuums
    Adams Rubble: Lesson 1: run about and play for 15 minutes, then STOP, be mindful for 9 seconds
    Riddle Sideways: yep
    Adams Rubble: Lesson two: repeat as often as you can

    Riddle Sideways: and that taught us?
    Adams Rubble: it taught us that we are silly and do not remember to do it :)
    Riddle Sideways: wrote a program to ring a gong sound on cell phone
    Adams Rubble: but we also stopped and saw what we were doing
    Riddle Sideways: a deep breathe
    Riddle Sideways: -e
    Riddle Sideways: A
    Adams Rubble: deep breathing good
    Riddle Sideways: Adams, then took 2 letter notes each time
    Riddle Sideways: Riddle took 1-word notes
    Riddle Sideways: on napkins, scraps, post-its

    Adams Rubble: I learned to see long held ideas that did not jive with my world view
    Adams Rubble: neat about the notes
    Adams Rubble: I wrote a blog that reads like a telephone book
    Adams Rubble: that exciting
    Riddle Sideways: now that not jive view stuff is good
    Riddle Sideways: RL never got the notes transcribed

    Adams Rubble: yes, getting to not only know oneself but drop things
                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: dropped self and became a different avatar
    Adams Rubble: I had to learn about being impatient
    Riddle Sideways: ah! impatience
    Adams Rubble: thank you bell. Please continue to be patient
    Riddle Sideways: and patience
    Riddle Sideways: to stop for 90-sec
    Riddle Sideways: the returning at 33 seconds and ...
    Adams Rubble: I have learned to be much more patient except when my rl person is driving
    Riddle Sideways: yes, that comes out during driving, a little less now
    Riddle Sideways: have become a Prius driver
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: slower starts,
    Adams Rubble: I was going to ask how that helps
    Riddle Sideways: slower uphill
    Adams Rubble: like getting fenders for your bicycle?
    Riddle Sideways: less tailgating
    Adams Rubble giggles
    Riddle Sideways: giggles
    Riddle Sideways: not driving by gas then brake then gas then brake repeat
    Riddle Sideways: might be a form of patirnt
    Adams Rubble: ohh it is hard to follow people who do that
    Adams Rubble: makes me impatient. hehe
    Riddle Sideways: so, ride a bike
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: we are moving off topic slightly

    Adams Rubble: back to what we learned
    Riddle Sideways: only slightly
    Riddle Sideways: taking on an avatar
    Adams Rubble listens
    Riddle Sideways: of what an ego thought one is
    Riddle Sideways: was
    Riddle Sideways: wanted to be
    Riddle Sideways: trying out
    Riddle Sideways: that was great
    Riddle Sideways: is nice
    Riddle Sideways: learned much
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: (sorry, old cat is in lap) typing one handed
    Adams Rubble: I used to use many avatars but learned most from yours truly
    Riddle Sideways: about these avi and alts
    Riddle Sideways: ?
    Adams Rubble: yes cats are not to be denied
    Riddle Sideways: /listens
    Adams Rubble: It is difficult to explain that more clearly; my rl person learned the most from me
    Adams Rubble: I am sometimes the teacher
    Riddle Sideways: yes
                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: it is difficult, but worth some investigation
    Adams Rubble: the other avatars gave perspective and served their purpose
    Riddle Sideways: as does this one
    Adams Rubble: I guess we lead avatars have a real resposnibility :)
    Adams Rubble: I have a rival avatar though and sometimes he is dominant
    Riddle Sideways: have watched that
    Adams Rubble: we used to fight but we worked that out a long time ago :)
    Riddle Sideways: seeing 2 little characters. one on each shoulder, playing angel and devil in the cartoon
    Riddle Sideways: then both agreeing to steer/work together
    Riddle Sideways: makes the bicycle balance better
    Riddle Sideways: the lessons of having warring avs
    Adams Rubble: I am not suire I learned that in PaB though
    Riddle Sideways: and them coming to reach peace
    Riddle Sideways: in SL?
    Adams Rubble: but Pema taught my rler to take us lightly
    Adams Rubble: yes SL but not PaB
    Adams Rubble: but PaB helped keep it in perspectives and allowed our avatars to teach us
    Adams Rubble: showed me how to juse my avatar
    Adams Rubble: use
    Adams Rubble: although I know my rler set out to use me from the very beginning. I don;t think I ever said that before
    Adams Rubble: wow,
               Av changed to Swirl energy cloud
    Riddle Sideways: Riddle meant to be this av because of PaB
    Adams Rubble: like passing over to the other side :)
    Riddle Sideways: and maybe Star Trek
    Adams Rubble: what a great trick :)
    Adams Rubble: I like it
    Riddle Sideways: drop eyelashs and shoe laces
    Riddle Sideways: drop the body
    Riddle Sideways: be an energy ball
    Adams Rubble: yes, take off your shoes, you are on holy ground
    Riddle Sideways: starting to write "served a purpose" ... however
    Riddle Sideways: that is not the right phrase
    Riddle Sideways: not learned enough from this shape
    Riddle Sideways: however, other humanoid avs did not converse the same with Swirl Riddle
    Adams Rubble: I don;t think I ever saw you like this
    Riddle Sideways: Swirl hypnotised or put off friendliness
    Adams Rubble: but no, conversation would change
    Riddle Sideways: really?
    Riddle Sideways: was this for months
    Adams Rubble: it is like talking with God :)
    Riddle Sideways: the logs are full of "memorized by..."
    Adams Rubble must be on good behavior
    Riddle Sideways: see, Swirl does that
    Riddle Sideways: yet... not a a me
    Adams Rubble nods
    Riddle Sideways: *to
    Adams Rubble: our rlers become comfortable with us
    Adams Rubble: do not like too much change
    Riddle Sideways: yet this was a forced av
    Riddle Sideways: for the purpose
    Adams Rubble listens
    Riddle Sideways: it did not (almost) evolve
                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: existance as energy
    Riddle Sideways: just a ball of energy
    Adams Rubble: hmmm, I see that
    Riddle Sideways: some thought
    Riddle Sideways: loose fluid borders
    Adams Rubble: but a real exploration into what makes an avatar
    Adams Rubble: did you make this avatar?
    Riddle Sideways: assembled it
    Riddle Sideways: put these 'cloths' on
    Riddle Sideways: the "Real" avatar is invisible
    Riddle Sideways: that was really hard to chat with
    Riddle Sideways: so .. "put some cloths on, Please!"


    Adams Rubble: the closest experiment I had is with my llama avatar
    Riddle Sideways: remembering a couple naked avs here
    Adams Rubble thinking about the naked avatars
    Riddle Sideways: one would stand in the center of the fountain to be stared at, center of naked attention
    Adams Rubble: yes saying that she was doing this to get more respect for women
    Riddle Sideways: and the times/lessons of sitting watching other experiment
    Riddle Sideways: explorations by our Friends
    Adams Rubble: if she was here now discussing the power or role of avatars it would be most approriate
    Riddle Sideways: the lessons of watching _____'s explorations
    Adams Rubble: ohhhhhhhh
    Riddle Sideways: She is still in SL. an alt gets meditation, lecture and group notices all the time
    Riddle Sideways: naked poetry readings
    Adams Rubble: when she was at PaB then pavilion was in a no nudity sim
    Adams Rubble: same thing with art history workshop that she attended
    Riddle Sideways: well, that did not matter to her
    Adams Rubble: I know
    Adams Rubble: I have not received any notices from her in ages
    Riddle Sideways: this av is not friends nor in that group
    Riddle Sideways: Botty still gets weekly notices
    Adams Rubble: My rler cleared the groups in my alts to stop geteting so many emails :)
    Riddle Sideways: ah, should do that also
    Adams Rubble: many of the groups were specific to those avatars, smoething I had forgotten
    Adams Rubble: they each had different lives
    Riddle Sideways: many still are specific to those
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Adams Rubble: who has the time for all that. hehe
    Riddle Sideways: when a specific mood comes over one ... come into SL as that Alt
    Adams Rubble: ah, yes my rler used to do that
    Riddle Sideways: simply come dance to some good music in the background of RL
    Adams Rubble: is it difficult transitioning in and out of this avatar?
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm, are you stuck?
    Adams Rubble: oh no but my llama avatar takes some work
    Adams Rubble: if I am not careful, I come back naked :)
    Riddle Sideways: and the problem would be ?
                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: ... Rhia (something)
    Adams Rubble blushes
    Riddle Sideways: there is some kind of lesson there too
    Riddle Sideways: (?)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: do you mean shy avatars?
    Riddle Sideways: either
    Riddle Sideways: yesterday, listing off all the past friends. Flashed the lessons learned/seen/existed/Played

    Riddle Sideways: e.g. Observerm
    Riddle Sideways: came up
    Adams Rubble: oh imnteresting
    Riddle Sideways: remember that one
    Adams Rubble: can you share any?
    Riddle Sideways: Observerm, once spoke
    Riddle Sideways: once only, maybe
    Riddle Sideways: may have IM'd to be private
    Riddle Sideways: but, visited almost every day
    Riddle Sideways: stood in the bushes by the pavillion
    Riddle Sideways: listening
    Adams Rubble: oh yes, I forgot
    Riddle Sideways: was most intrigiging
    Riddle Sideways: not sure what was learned
    Riddle Sideways: But, it was a Lesson
    Riddle Sideways: and experience
    Riddle Sideways: to know someone like that
    Riddle Sideways: to ponder

    Riddle Sideways: oh oh! had forgotten one other person
    Riddle Sideways: need help with the name
    Riddle Sideways: Big avatar
    Riddle Sideways: very quiet
    Riddle Sideways: sat quietly
    Riddle Sideways: then would say the most pointant things
    Riddle Sideways: runs a Budist center now
    Adams Rubble: you have quite a memory :)
    Riddle Sideways: no! that is the issue
    Riddle Sideways: fat buddah type av
    Riddle Sideways: Pema and others would go on and on
    Riddle Sideways: then he would say 1-3 words
    Riddle Sideways: "Maybe, my friend"
    Adams Rubble: Ohh I know who you mean I think but he was not a Buddhist
    Riddle Sideways: yes, always added "my friend"
    Riddle Sideways: ok
    Adams Rubble: he was from Hindu tradition
    Adams Rubble: Avastu or something like that
    Riddle Sideways: YES!!!!!
    Adams Rubble: my rler is friends in FB whith his RKL person
    Riddle Sideways: 'I remember them well' :)
    Adams Rubble: never said "I" in any of his statements
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Riddle Sideways: did have a big ego tho
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: was right toward the top of all these persons seen here
    Riddle Sideways: what a bunch of Play here
    Riddle Sideways: the Lessons during Play
    Riddle Sideways: and the juxifacations
                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: the mind trips
    Adams Rubble: Your approach is interesting and thoughtful :)
    Riddle Sideways: the dropping amoung Friends
    Riddle Sideways: and silly too!
    Adams Rubble: I have not done as much observing while swimming in my own explorations
    Riddle Sideways: always not using all the words needed to explain a point
    Adams Rubble: yes, we have had many friends drop US
    Adams Rubble: I did not drop them intentionally
    Riddle Sideways: that too, but was going toward the dropping of 'have' to show the 'are'
    Riddle Sideways: you were forced
    Riddle Sideways: several Adams' stuck hard to them
    Riddle Sideways: but, did drip
    Adams Rubble: I was wondering if I have have not been friendly enough to people to have them stay
    Riddle Sideways: *Drop
    Riddle Sideways: have wonder that too
    Riddle Sideways: Not about you :)
    Adams Rubble: that is a somewhat disturbing thought
    Riddle Sideways: yes, just drifted off in that disturbing direction
    Adams Rubble: people have left for many different reasons
    Adams Rubble: probbaly most because the explorations were not working for them any more
    Riddle Sideways: there are people, I'll remember. all my life, though some have changed
    Riddle Sideways: some are lost, but not forgotten
    Riddle Sideways: ... in my mind they still remain
    Adams Rubble: yes to the remembering
    Adams Rubble: I wonder often how some are doing in RL; we got to know them so well
    Riddle Sideways: or some lyrics like that
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: yes, so well
    Riddle Sideways: yet, probably RL happened
    Riddle Sideways: to them
    Riddle Sideways: or they got it
    Riddle Sideways: and didn't need here
    Adams Rubble: they not only left PaB but SL as well
    Adams Rubble: most anyway
    Riddle Sideways: yes, some
    Riddle Sideways: ok, most

    Adams Rubble: I think we should try to remember to continue this topic of what we learned from PaB at another session
    Riddle Sideways: yes,
    Adams Rubble: another topic: why are we still here?
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: or do a Bleu gallery project
    Riddle Sideways: ok, agreed
    Adams Rubble shudders
    Riddle Sideways: be very scared
    Riddle Sideways: a topic cometh
    Adams Rubble: the last thing Adams Rubble needs is drawing more attention to herself. hehe
    Riddle Sideways: giggles
    Adams Rubble: I hope you have a very nice day
    Riddle Sideways: watch out for Being under the big microscope
    Adams Rubble: ???
    Riddle Sideways: thank you
    Riddle Sideways: have your best day
    Adams Rubble: bye for now
    Adams Rubble: thanks
    Riddle Sideways: by

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