The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways joined by Adams Fublde.

   Of stories
   Of quotes
   Of glum
   Of Clouds
   Of listen to Pete Seeger
   Of emotional roller coasters  
   Of starting where you are 
   Of Niemoeller
    our little Play

Riddle Sideways: fun yesterday with latest Raspberry Pi
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: this time hooked to new TV in exercise/guest/(not really daughters anymore) room
Riddle Sideways: no cable box to that tv. just internet

Riddle Sideways: Hi Adams
Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: did not see the approach style today. back was turned
Adams Rubble: walking slowl;y these days
Riddle Sideways: any reasons for no bounce in the step?
Adams Rubble: yes, still bewildered by what has happened to our country
Adams Rubble: and what we can do about it
Riddle Sideways: ah

Adams Rubble: what do we tell the young people
Riddle Sideways: 1 thing would be to bounce tiggggrr style at each chance
Riddle Sideways: then back to glum
Adams Rubble giggles
Riddle Sideways: the very young = read them a book
Riddle Sideways: and don't have the news on with them in the room
Adams Rubble: not that young :)
Riddle Sideways: 24-year old = long discussions

Adams Rubble: I meant the ones who are doing their own reading and news gathering
Adams Rubble: telling them that we will survive this because we survived Nixon and Reagan has a hollow ring to it
Riddle Sideways: getting very close with daughter. by telephone
Adams Rubble: telling them to keep calm becauise they can't do anything about it also is lame
Riddle Sideways: yes, told those old stories
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, need more new stories
Riddle Sideways: it is a brand new world and needs new stories
Riddle Sideways: yesterday Zen told a Zen story
Adams Rubble listens
Riddle Sideways: the Jews have so many stories for each occasion
Riddle Sideways: the Christians seem to have a Bible quote and story every few minutes
Riddle Sideways: what has religion got to help us?

Adams Rubble: give to Caesar what is Caesar's?
Riddle Sideways: mmm, and there came a time when the new pharoh knew not the People
Riddle Sideways: mmm, and there came a Caesar who was stupid to the ways of governing

Adams Rubble: "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars – they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." Revelations 21:8
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: not going to give Riddle's score
Adams Rubble: Some of us like Riddle's quote better than Adams' quote
Riddle Sideways: and that was not a very happy verse for the break :)
Adams Rubble: sorry
Riddle Sideways: giggles
Adams Rubble: there are worse in Revelations
Riddle Sideways: sometimes it is best to not breese over the dark thoughts

Adams Rubble: When I was young and studied the history of kings, there were times when an unfit king gained the throne and the country declined accordingly
Adams Rubble: We are not supposed to get such a leader in a democracy
Adams Rubble: at least that was what we were told in civics class
Riddle Sideways: yep, that was taught

Riddle Sideways: random quote - "stupid is as stupid does"
Adams Rubble: life is like a box of chocolates :)
Riddle Sideways: and we just got the bad one
Riddle Sideways: what is nice about having a rich history behind us
Riddle Sideways: is the many quotes and stories
Riddle Sideways: "Life is like a bowl of cherries ..."
Riddle Sideways: it is quotes all the way down

Riddle Sideways: however
Riddle Sideways: PaB had a princilple
Riddle Sideways: of starting right now
Riddle Sideways: of being where you are
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: was it a standing on the shoulder of All and go forth?
Riddle Sideways: never quite memorized nor got it
Riddle Sideways: but, wanted to
Riddle Sideways: might work now
Adams Rubble: not sure about that quote
Riddle Sideways: all the Knowledge to stand upon
Adams Rubble: ah
Riddle Sideways: oh great scribe, please help your lowly listener to remember
Riddle Sideways: sessions of start from now
Riddle Sideways: with all the Beings to stand on
Riddle Sideways: where would you go
Adams Rubble: we have all we need

Adams Rubble: moving away from paB a little, every morning we are still waking up alive and can be grateful for that
Riddle Sideways: yes
Adams Rubble: as long as we are breathing, we have life
Adams Rubble: thankful for each breath
Adams Rubble: camn be
Adams Rubble: can be
Riddle Sideways: thank full
Adams Rubble: :)

Adams Rubble: Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people,' so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;" Revelations 18:4
Riddle Sideways: thanks. that was a great 90sec of thanks
Adams Rubble: do not dwell in the news
Adams Rubble: :)
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: do not dwell in the news
Riddle Sideways: many have turned
Riddle Sideways: those that do not dwell in facts
Riddle Sideways: those that do not need daily updates
Riddle Sideways: those that do not need to give the press any 'news' to rehash for us
Adams Rubble: the revelations quote can be applied to the clouds obscuring our vision
Riddle Sideways: they are doing their part
Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: hmmmm, clouds
Adams Rubble: it's clouds illusions I recall
Riddle Sideways: put all your data in the(our) cloud
Adams Rubble giggles
Adams Rubble: not that cloud

Riddle Sideways: snap, was just writing the Clouds lyric too
Riddle Sideways: I've look at Clouds from both sides now
Adams Rubble: do you know Pete Seegar's answer to that song?
Riddle Sideways: you're right. the Google, Amazon, M$, etc. cloud would not be dark
Riddle Sideways: /listens
Adams Rubble: an old man's advice to a young'un
Adams Rubble: let me get it
Riddle Sideways: 3,560 youtube hits

Adams Rubble: go to 4:10 mark of the following
Adams Rubble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyYuFBj8PTU
Riddle Sideways: through 5:10
              Please listen now

Riddle Sideways: good to have that in the log
Adams Rubble: yes, especially with the precedign discussion
Adams Rubble: preceding
Riddle Sideways: been dealing with the father-daughter conversations these couple weeks
Riddle Sideways: near crying listening to it
Adams Rubble: the young'uns are depressed
Riddle Sideways: the stories from Pete
Riddle Sideways: (and Piet) :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: Pete and Piet
Adams Rubble: and Steven
Riddle Sideways: wide shoulder to stand upon
Riddle Sideways: and just shout "I am not worthy"
Adams Rubble remembers that is additon to being grateful for life we need to be compassionate
Adams Rubble: Piet would be the first to say we are worthy :)
Riddle Sideways: ok, compassion is very hard to summon
Adams Rubble: that is what I am being told
Riddle Sideways: for some yes, but for All?
Adams Rubble: each and every one; love the person, hate the action
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: well
Riddle Sideways: part wants to sing
Riddle Sideways: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/e/emerson..._20049796.html
Riddle Sideways: that is not compassion
Riddle Sideways: know it, but ...
Riddle Sideways: sorry! that was a bummer
Riddle Sideways: maybe out of there compassion can rebound
Riddle Sideways: sick of the 'news', so go make some good items
Adams Rubble: Christmas has always raised unrealistic expectations for many people
Adams Rubble: can feel cvompassion for those depressed this time of year
Adams Rubble: after all it is the darkest time of year in the northern hemisphere

Adams Rubble: this is an interesting song
Riddle Sideways: Greg Lake died a week ago
Adams Rubble: oh my; written in 1975
Riddle Sideways: almost back in our time
Adams Rubble: hehe

Riddle Sideways: was telling daughter about all those old times
Riddle Sideways: the singing of protest songs
Riddle Sideways: the angry young man
Riddle Sideways: knowing the dying Vietnam young
Riddle Sideways: knowing the OD rock stars
Riddle Sideways: never wanting the kids to know any of that
Riddle Sideways: and here she is
Riddle Sideways: in it
Adams Rubble: there are always people who do not survive times like this and then

Adams Rubble: maybe with what we have learned we need to concentrate on them
Adams Rubble: then the boys being sent off to SE Asia, now the African Americans, Muslims and Sikhs
Riddle Sideways: that is what to tell the youth of now
Adams Rubble: and Latinos
Riddle Sideways: and ...
Riddle Sideways: and ...
Riddle Sideways: "Same as it always was" - Talking Heads
Riddle Sideways: yet ...
Riddle Sideways: it was the best of Times

Adams Rubble:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
     — Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out
     — Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
     — Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me
     —and there was no one left to speak for me.

Adams Rubble: Niemoeller

Riddle Sideways: Oh Yes! that verse
Adams Rubble: This session seems to go up and down; we do not want to end on a down
Adams Rubble: What we have is ourselves
Riddle Sideways: it is up to the gentle reader to carry the wave
Riddle Sideways: a new dawn out the window
Riddle Sideways: old cat breathing in face
Adams Rubble: we can wallow in despair, gentle reader, or we can use our compassion to see the plight of others and do what we are able
Adams Rubble: so gentle reader, it is up to you; you have all you need :)
Riddle Sideways: thank you for reading our little Play

Adams Rubble ends smiling
Riddle Sideways: curtain closes on smiles
               --BELL--
Adams Rubble: whoops
Adams Rubble: bye gentle Riddle :)
Adams Rubble: have a very good day
Riddle Sideways: :) have a bouncy day
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: and thank you so much
Adams Rubble: bye for now
Adams Rubble: thank you :)