2017.07.08 13:00 - Too Damn Hot

 

 

The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.

Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Riddle.

Riddle Sideways: Heya, Bruce

Bruce Mowbray: Was'hap?

Bruce Mowbray: or, was'up?

Riddle Sideways: toooo Hot outside

Bruce Mowbray: or, whas'up?

Bruce Mowbray: oh yeah.

Riddle Sideways: need to just sit at computer

Bruce Mowbray: We had a nice storm come through last night though, so it's cooler today.

Riddle Sideways: nobody has AC here

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: Oh, dear. We could get through a summer anymore without AC.

Bruce Mowbray: could NOT*

Bruce Mowbray: but I was raised in Iowa without it...

Bruce Mowbray: when it got too hot, we slept on the screened-in front porch.

Bruce Mowbray: with all the fans turned on.

Riddle Sideways: brb

Bruce Mowbray: kk.

Riddle Sideways: back, appears the house knows there shall be no chair sitting at this time

Bruce Mowbray: :)

Bruce Mowbray: I'm downloading the movie version of "Lolita" - Have you seen it?

Riddle Sideways: this office is built into the mountain and stays cold

Bruce Mowbray: Jeremy Irons.

Bruce Mowbray: ahhh.

Riddle Sideways: yes, the old good version

Riddle Sideways: decades ago

Bruce Mowbray: So, cool to have an office in the mountain, huh?

Riddle Sideways: barely remember it

Bruce Mowbray: I'm downloading it now... to watch later.

Bruce Mowbray: i minute left in download.

Riddle Sideways: then bandwidth comes back

Bruce Mowbray: 1 min. . .

Bruce Mowbray: doesn't seem to have an issue with bandwidth.

Riddle Sideways: ummm howz your typing today?:))

Bruce Mowbray:

Bruce Mowbray: My fingers are getting Alzheimer’s.

Bruce Mowbray: or amnesia, or something.

Riddle Sideways: haha

Bruce Mowbray: "Lolita" has finished downloading.

Riddle Sideways: Son was here and copied all his movies to the house NAS

Bruce Mowbray: Cool.

Riddle Sideways: now have lots of movies to watch

Bruce Mowbray: :)

Bruce Mowbray: I have a very large library myself. (stored on a one-terabyte external hard drive)

Riddle Sideways: although, got us hooked on a NetFlix series

Bruce Mowbray: I don't get Netflix, but have several friends who love it.

Riddle Sideways: NAS is 3T and with backups has run out of room

Bruce Mowbray: WOW!

Bruce Mowbray: I can't imagine needing that much storage space.

Bruce Mowbray: Do you know Thomas Pynchon's "Gravity's Rainbow"?

Riddle Sideways: don't remember it

Bruce Mowbray: I'm currently listening to it on audible.com

Bruce Mowbray: kk, it was published in early 80's, I think, or maybe 70's.

Riddle Sideways: Gravity's Rainbow is a 1973 novel by American writer Thomas Pynchon. Lengthy, complex, and featuring a large cast of characters, the narrative is set primarily in Europe at the end of World War II, and ..

Bruce Mowbray: A fellow teacher recommended it to me in 1983, and I'm finally getting around to "reading" (listening to) it.

Bruce Mowbray: ahhh, 1973.

Bruce Mowbray: only one decade off.

Riddle Sideways: :)

Riddle Sideways: getting around to recommendations

Bruce Mowbray: It is extremely complex... many dream-like flashbacks, post-modern weird stuff...

Bruce Mowbray: The "rainbow" refers to V2 rockets fired by Germany into England....

Bruce Mowbray: which become metaphors for all sorts of stuff....

Riddle Sideways: hmmmm

Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm

Riddle Sideways: am stuck on the phrase "Post" "Modern"

Bruce Mowbray: yeah, post-modern....

Riddle Sideways: know what it means, but those 2 words are ...

Bruce Mowbray: sort of a cover-all word for literature(and all art forms) post 1950 that one can hardly understand... little coherent plot. . . hardly any sequence, etc.

Riddle Sideways: brb ... more house stuff

Bruce Mowbray: kk.

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism

Bruce Mowbray: Postmodernism includes skeptical critical interpretations of culture, literature, art, philosophy, history, linguistics, economics, architecture, fiction, feminist theory, and literary criticism.

Bruce Mowbray: Postmodernism is often associated with schools of thought such as deconstruction and post-structuralism, as well as philosophers such as Jean-François Lyotard and Frederic Jameson.

Bruce Mowbray: Thos. Pynchon is considered a "postmodernist": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Pynchon

Riddle Sideways: back

Riddle Sideways: but not disturb bell

Bruce Mowbray: I posted some references on postmodernism.

Riddle Sideways: was trying to get the dinosaur cartoon link re; postmodern

Bruce Mowbray: ahhh.

Riddle Sideways: only goes to a whole page of links

Bruce Mowbray nods.

Riddle Sideways: there was a PostModernisms generator too :)

Riddle Sideways: link is dead

Riddle Sideways: Hey QT

Bruce Mowbray: I think postmodernism owes a lot to underground psychotropic drugs.

Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Qt.

Qt Core: Hi

Riddle Sideways: Ah, the take drugs and write a book fun activity

Bruce Mowbray: Whas-hap, Qt?

Bruce Mowbray: Yes, that's what I was thinking, Rid.

Qt Core: hot weather, a little over 35C

Bruce Mowbray: Wow. WaYYYY TOO HOT.

Bruce Mowbray: Riddle said it's hot where he is, too.

Bruce Mowbray: Very pleasant here in southern Ohio.

Riddle Sideways: ha, gotta beat QT

Bruce Mowbray: No AC, Qt?

Qt Core: but they say the perceived temp is around 40

Riddle Sideways: we are 99 = 37.5

Qt Core: yes, but i don't like it

Bruce Mowbray: omg. That's too hot.

Riddle Sideways: :)

Qt Core: second time this year i fully activate it (beyond dehumidifier_

Bruce Mowbray: maybe a de-humidifier would help.

Bruce Mowbray nods.

Riddle Sideways: no AC here

Bruce Mowbray: I guess you don't get that many HOT days out there, Rid.

Qt Core: then this morning i had the wonderful idea to cook for almost an hour

Riddle Sideways: nope

Bruce Mowbray: The Bay Area is naturally air conditioned.

Riddle Sideways: friend just called it 110 on other side of valley

Bruce Mowbray remembers watching the afternoon fogs slide in under the Golden Gate Bridge... from the Berkeley shore.

Bruce Mowbray: Yeah, WAYYY too hot on the other side of that hill.

Bruce Mowbray ponders tugging an iceberg near shore to cool things off....

Bruce Mowbray: and for fresh water....

Riddle Sideways: last weekend, friends in the foggy part were calling to get invite out of our sun

Bruce Mowbray: :)

Qt Core: this year northern Italy got some 58% less rain than average... we may be going to have some problems (agriculture already has them as most of those 42% were heavy storm)

Bruce Mowbray: Well, Mother Nature doesn't care whether we believe in climate change. If it's too hot or there's not enough water, crops just won't grow.

Riddle Sideways: oops, our drought moved your way

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: Maybe some entrepreneur will figure out how to tow the Larsen C ice shelf up to Europe, or California....?

Bruce Mowbray: when it falls off, of course.

Qt Core: a farmer told the interviewer that it would not be a problem for her grapes ... as they lost them all in a late frost in late March...

Bruce Mowbray: Oh dear, so sad.

Riddle Sideways: if it ain't one thang, then it is another

Riddle Sideways: there is a number of people that have been occupying the land east of here

Bruce Mowbray: in RL, Rid?  as in "east of eden"?

Riddle Sideways: seem to be the same group that was North of here last year

Riddle Sideways: no here SL

Bruce Mowbray: Qt Core: then we end up (not only this year) finding spain grapes at the supermarkets as it ends up being cheaper

Riddle Sideways: been there for a week

Riddle Sideways: think they are role players and own no land

Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.

Qt Core: visited them a few days ago varied avatars, no response no movement

Bruce Mowbray: a traveling troup of “players....”  (as in Hamlet)

Riddle Sideways: BTW - yes Salinas is East of Eden. about 15 miles away

Bruce Mowbray nods, loves Steinbeck.

Riddle Sideways: no response?

Bruce Mowbray: I read almost all of his novels when I walked across America in 1977.

Riddle Sideways: a year ago, IM'ed 2 and got "we are having our meetings"

Bruce Mowbray: (also watched the movie of E of E)

Qt Core: i didn't talk to them but there was no reaction to my presence

Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm, apparently they didn't want to be interrupted.

Bruce Mowbray: are they on Bieup land?

Riddle Sideways: umm, not sure

Bruce Mowbray: .....kk.

Riddle Sideways: no matter... not ours

Qt Core: yes as for the map

Riddle Sideways: ok

Bruce Mowbray tries to find his map.

Riddle Sideways: map is in the glove compartment of the car

Riddle Sideways: oops, dated self

Bruce Mowbray: I see them now.   They ARE in Bieup, but not on our land.

Riddle Sideways: reread Cannery Row when we moved here. to spot the buildings involved

Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes.

Riddle Sideways: Docs building is now open (at odd hours) for tours

Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm.

Riddle Sideways: the open field by the flop house is now built on

Bruce Mowbray nods.

Riddle Sideways: at first they put a park there

Riddle Sideways: now a building

Bruce Mowbray makes a postmodern analogy: Salinas is to vegetable as Chicago is to animal.

Bruce Mowbray: :)

Riddle Sideways: the Aquarium changed all of Cannery Row

Bruce Mowbray: Ahhh.

Riddle Sideways: yes, re Salinas

Bruce Mowbray: and Chicago - "the world's meat market"

Riddle Sideways: amazing driving for miles and seeing only tomatoes

Riddle Sideways: miles of broccoli

Bruce Mowbray so it's a bit like driving for miles in Ohio and seeing only cornfields, or driving miles in Italy and seeing only vineyards.

Riddle Sideways: not quite that big

Bruce Mowbray: Cornfields create a danger for drivers, though... because they obstruct the view at intersections.

Qt Core: we have small fields, you won't drive for so many miles seeing the same crop

Riddle Sideways: every couple miles it changes to a new crop

--BELL--

Riddle Sideways: as wide as the valley

Bruce Mowbray: In Iowa (where I was raised), one can drive for miles and see nothing but corn fields - no houses, just fields.

Bruce Mowbray: As a child, it was fun to get lost in the middle of a field of tall corn....

Riddle Sideways: yes, kid chasing fun through the corn

Bruce Mowbray: :)

Bruce Mowbray: I remember it well.

Riddle Sideways: was only yesterday

Bruce Mowbray: :)

Riddle Sideways: to the trees

Riddle Sideways: drove cross-country years ago. Corn fields of Ohio, Iowa, Nebraska

Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes.

Riddle Sideways: was almost happy to see Wheat

Bruce Mowbray: :)

Riddle Sideways: then it was wheat forever

Bruce Mowbray: Wheat comes out (is harvested) the last week in June. . .

Bruce Mowbray: ("winter" wheat).

Bruce Mowbray: some farmers follow it quickly with a crop of soybeans.... but that's cutting it pretty short.

Riddle Sideways: finally into Idaho all fields stopped

Bruce Mowbray: Riddle Sideways: and desert took over

Bruce Mowbray: Don't they have irrigation sprinklers out there? that make circular-looking fields?

Riddle Sideways: all the way singing "Horse with no name"

Riddle Sideways: even when got to the ocean

Bruce Mowbray: "It felt good to come in from the rain...."

Riddle Sideways: see the ocean is just the desert you see

Bruce Mowbray hums.

Riddle Sideways: with a perfect discuse above

Bruce Mowbray: discus?

Riddle Sideways: hmmm, speeling chalenge

Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....

Bruce Mowbray: It’s time for me to get out there and walk my daily-mile.

Bruce Mowbray: You guys have a beautiful weekend, and try to keep cool.

Qt Core: ok, have fun

Riddle Sideways: The ocean is a desert with its life underground And a perfect disguise above

Bruce Mowbray: bye for now.

Riddle Sideways: by by

Qt Core: bye

Riddle Sideways: Eden does 10,000 steps and Bruce does a mile :)

Riddle Sideways: good for them

Qt Core: this year i'm way lazier than past ... at least 4

Qt Core: I’ve not even checked if my bicycle is usable yet (usually i do that in may...)

Riddle Sideways: ain't movin in this heat

Qt Core: 4 years

Riddle Sideways: yep, saw the bicycle here and it has rust

Qt Core: today i feel the heat more than past days i think that is as the AC in the shopping center i had to spend most of my morning for grocery shopping and such is way stronger than the one i have at work

Qt Core: so got to like its perfect artificial temps and got used to it for the day

Riddle Sideways: they crank it up for more shoppers to come in

Riddle Sideways: beat the heat by shopping more

Qt Core: we even have news program ion tv telling elders to spend days there to escape the heat of their homes

Qt Core: AC in private home isn't widespread, especially not in older homes and elder’s homes

--BELL--

Riddle Sideways: elders going into Starbucks and drinking too many $4 coffees

Riddle Sideways: well, am going back to work on holodeck scenes

Riddle Sideways: nice seeing you

Qt Core: luckily, for at least some more months we lack Starbucks here (one is opening in downtown Milan in months i think)

Riddle Sideways: ah, progress is coming to you

Riddle Sideways: :(

Qt Core: ok, and I’m approaching sleeptime ;-)

Riddle Sideways: night

Qt Core: bye Riddle