2017.07.27 13:00 - Blake, Milton and the Inner Civil War

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth. I arrived to find Aph AFK and sitting on the opposite side of the pool to the book.

     

    Aphrodite Macbain: 's current display-name is "Aph".
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Aphie
    Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
    Agatha Macbeth: Brucie :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Lizzy x
    Bruce Mowbray: Howdy do!
    Eliza Madrigal: whoa
    Eliza Madrigal: Hiya :D
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello everyone
    Agatha Macbeth: Aph's on the wrong side for some reason
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah there she is
    Aphrodite Macbain: wrong?
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe we should be on Aph's side to see the picture
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I can't move the book tho
    Bruce Mowbray: I can move the picture, if necessary.
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Mick
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick
    Bruce Mowbray: hi, Mick.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi MIck
    Mickorod Renard: hi folks
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Tura
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, aggers and Tura.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh what's that
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tura, nice summer dress
    Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza and Bruce- were you upstairs meditating?
    Tura Brezoianu: hi all
    Eliza Madrigal: mhm
    Aphrodite Macbain: were there others too?
    Bruce Mowbray: That's an llustration of Blake's poem "Milton"
    Aphrodite Macbain: Ah =) thanks
    Eliza Madrigal: just we two
    Agatha Macbeth: Two's company three's a session
    Aphrodite Macbain: I thought you might be interested in Bryn Oh's exhibition- she's such a good artist
    Aphrodite Macbain: hence the little poster
    Agatha Macbeth: She is
    Eliza Madrigal: oh, thanks. I got a notice about this yesterday and closed it too fast
    Tura Brezoianu: I love Bryn Oh's work
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think I'll go today after this.
    Agatha Macbeth: You old closer you
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm very open Aggers
    Agatha Macbeth: Not you!
    Mickorod Renard: as a child I found a book of poems called paradise lost..and I secretly bused to read it
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah lol
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah - the four worlds
    Eliza Madrigal: let's give just a few minutes and then am excited from Bruce and Blake
    --BELL--
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bruce and Blake!
    Agatha Macbeth: Very archetypal
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Aggers you're too far
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Indeed it is, aggers!
    Agatha Macbeth: Too far gone?
    Eliza Madrigal smiles

    Being a creature of habit, I stayed where I was :p

    Agatha Macbeth: Hola Xira :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Xiri :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hola, Xir!
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Xir..and Tura sory
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hey Xiri
    Xirana Oximoxi: hello Aga, Eliza, Bruce, Mick :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Aph and Tura :)
    Mickorod Renard: distracted by 2 grand kids jumping around
    Bruce Mowbray: oh dear.
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: aww
    Eliza Madrigal: sounds lovely Mick
    Eliza Madrigal: Okay Bruce, whenever you feel ready ^.^
    Mickorod Renard: it is, i sneaked away to a spare bedroom but they found me
    Agatha Macbeth: I really like that picture
    Eliza Madrigal: :))

    Milton and Blake (and some confusion on my part)

    Bruce Mowbray: ok. Here goes:
    Bruce Mowbray: Gettin much lag today . . . heavy rains right now.
    Bruce Mowbray: Maxine refers to Wm. Blake’s two-book poem “Milton” in this section of her book.
    Bruce Mowbray: More specifically, she writes of “Milton’s Track” – which is a path of mental and spiritual awakening and cleansing.
    Bruce Mowbray: In Blake’s illustration of “Milton’s Track,” Milton enters the picture at the bottom right, through the sphere of “Urizen” (the big poster I built just for this session):
    Bruce Mowbray: http://bq.blakearchive.org/img/illus...detail.300.jpg
    Bruce Mowbray: Urizen is the false priest of Natural Religion who baptizes Milton with the icy waters of rationality.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Your reson
    Bruce Mowbray: Milton’s path takes him “sleep-walking” upwardly through the spheres of INSTINCT (“Tharmas”) and PASSION (“Luvah”) and into the top-most sphere IMAGINATION (“Urthona”).
    Bruce Mowbray: Finally, his perception is “cleansed” through imagination’s reconciliation of the “struggling contraries” within himself.
    Bruce Mowbray: “Milton’s Track” depicts the progress of the “archetypal man” (“Albion”) toward imagination’s creative vision of harmony among the mental spheres of reason, instinct, and passion.
    Bruce Mowbray: Blake’s vision is one imagination’s harmonious reconciliation among opposites – not one of its victory over opposites.
    Bruce Mowbray: That would have been the end of my report,
    Bruce Mowbray: but first I'd like to quote someone:
    Bruce Mowbray: This vision seems remarkably compatible with the centering thought that Eliza used in her meditation that preceded this session: Gone, and a million things leave no trace Loosed, and it flows through the galaxies A fountain of light, into the very mind-- Not a thing, and yet it appears before me: Now I know the pearl of the Buddha-nature Know its use: a boundless perfect sphere. - Han-Shan, circa 63
    Bruce Mowbray: [done]

    Eliza Madrigal: wow nice, Bruce.... quite an elevation and really helpful
    Mickorod Renard: how beautiful..all of it Bruce ty
    Bruce Mowbray: ty.
    Aphrodite Macbain: thanks Bruce- it helps understand Maxine's text
    Agatha Macbeth: So Milton was doing Jung before Jung was
    Bruce Mowbray: Sounds like it, aggers.
    Eliza Madrigal: we've come back to fragmentation and illumination a lot in PaB
    Eliza Madrigal: but more so in trying to articulate our personal heroes journeys or what have you
    Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder whether Blake considers imagination and instinct as opposites (the way reason and passion are)
    Agatha Macbeth: Blake I meant...where did I get Milton from?
    Aphrodite Macbain: MIlton's path
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: or track
    Agatha Macbeth is confused
    Bruce Mowbray: I felt that Milton considered imagination to be opposite to reason -- but more a reconciliation than a conflicting force.
    Eliza Madrigal: seems imagination is on a bit of a pedestal ... even if the picture has it in an equal plane of contrast?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting-and I wonder where instinct fits
    Bruce Mowbray: Blake is the illustrator of "Milton's Track," aggers.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Bruce Mowbray: I hope that Maxine will talk more about instinct and passion.
    Agatha Macbeth: So who did the picture?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Blake
    Agatha Macbeth: Right
    Agatha Macbeth: Ty

    Takes time, but I got there in the end...

    Aphrodite Macbain: William Blake
    Eliza Madrigal: well, when we create, are we coming from instinct or passion? the passion must start somewhere... some urge or instinct toward something
    Agatha Macbeth: Hey it moved
    Bruce Mowbray: [yeah, I passionately moved it]
    Aphrodite Macbain: Imagination seems to me to be the result of a creative action whereas instinct requires no thought or action. So In some ways they are opposite.
    --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: Not the squirrels then
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Maxine talks about "sleepwalking" through reason, instinct, and passion....
    Eliza Madrigal: I somehow feel it has the same base instinct of survival/freedom
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: sleepwalking seems to imply no real intention
    Agatha Macbeth: Somnambulism
    Eliza Madrigal: :) there's a scrabble word
    Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, since the whole poem is a "vision," I felt that sleepwalk meant walking blindly... or with only a blurry sight of things....
    Bruce Mowbray: I also felt drawn to the image of the egg.
    Aphrodite Macbain: It also implies action
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Mickorod Renard: or a rebirth?
    Eliza Madrigal: and the intense fire
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, a re-birth...
    Mickorod Renard: hatching out
    Aphrodite Macbain: interesting Mick- the egg gets cracked!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting also that we contain both adam and satan
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Aph.
    Agatha Macbeth: Why Adam and not God?
    Bruce Mowbray: Reminescent of Maxine's book, no?
    Aphrodite Macbain: that's what I was wondering
    Mickorod Renard: maybe more sybolic than religious?
    Bruce Mowbray: Albion is archetypal man.
    Agatha Macbeth: Why Satan then?
    Aphrodite Macbain: In Milton's paradise lost, I think the main actors are Adam and Satan
    Bruce Mowbray: DEFINITELY, Mick.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh I see
    Agatha Macbeth: Thanks Aph (again)
    Bruce Mowbray: In fact, Blake was criticizing the "Puritanism" religions of his day.
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's been 40 yeares since I read it.....
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: also years
    Bruce Mowbray remembers the "slouigh of despond..."
    Eliza Madrigal is thinking when she read it before she must not have read it but skimmed (many years too)
    Bruce Mowbray: slough*
    Bruce Mowbray: (which is just about where i stopped reading it)
    Tura Brezoianu: In the picture, Adam seems to be an egg within the egg. The yolk?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I remember having to memorize it
    Aphrodite Macbain: bits of it
    Bruce Mowbray: Definitely eggs within eggs!
    Aphrodite Macbain: hadn't noticed that before
    Aphrodite Macbain: he's in a circle within an egg
    Tura Brezoianu: I've never read Blake, I think maybe I should.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Read Milton too
    Aphrodite Macbain: Blake is also a poet: Tiger tiger burning bright... etc
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Eliza Madrigal: I keep thinking about the sentence "you can't get there from here" which, in the context of dreaming means something like, no matter how much you accomplish in the dream or no matter where you get in the dream, you can't get )outside of the dream( ...something like that. You must wake up.
    Xirana Oximoxi: The wikipedia says Milton is a poem writen by Blake.... not sure if it's the same :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: what immortal hand or eye could frame thy fearful symetry
    Agatha Macbeth: Bouncy pouncy flouncy
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, "Milton" is a poem by Blake.
    Xirana Oximoxi: ok, thank you :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Blakes poem (and image) about Milton's poem
    Bruce Mowbray nods.
    Aphrodite Macbain: track
    Mickorod Renard: its odd you can get miltons sterilizing tablets for baby bottles
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
    Mickorod Renard: just thinking of the cleansing
    Aphrodite Macbain: must be his brother
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe he had a maternal side too
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Eliza Madrigal: Mick you mentioned Paradise Lost earlier?
    Agatha Macbeth: Here comes Bleuji
    Bruce Mowbray: afk for just a sec.....
    Mickorod Renard: yes, just that it made me think how I read some wierd stuff as a kid..but in some strange way maybe they were planted
    Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
    Agatha Macbeth: And here she is! :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: planted in your garden?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu, let me give you an IM....
    Bleu Oleander: slips in qietly ... sorry to be late
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bleu
    Mickorod Renard: Hi bleu
    Mickorod Renard: ah yes, the garden of the mind
    Aphrodite Macbain: smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: very fertile
    Mickorod Renard: i think it took a while to bloom
    Eliza Madrigal: (Bruce's report, goes with the image) :D
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Bleu.
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi Bleu :)
    Mickorod Renard: its funny to watch these kids doing their own thing without me yawping at them..should have been asleep a while ago
    Mickorod Renard: sorry bell
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd imagine that kind of poem seemed overwhelming for a child. Did it, Mick?
    --BELL--
    Eliza Madrigal: (sorry a bit laggy)
    Mickorod Renard: as i recall i was ashamed to admit i liked it
    Aphrodite Macbain: the devil's descent into hell
    Aphrodite Macbain: poor guy
    Eliza Madrigal: did you already have ideas about hell/heaven/etc?
    Aphrodite Macbain: and angels
    Aphrodite Macbain: - the devil is/was a fallen angel
    Aphrodite Macbain: hence paradise lost
    Tura Brezoianu: I remember Blake said Milton "was a true Poet and of the Devil's party without knowing it"
    Mickorod Renard: I can't even recall its content now..but I do remember enjoying reading it but as much for its artistic use of english
    Bruce Mowbray: Freud described the child's psyche as "polygmous perversity."
    Bruce Mowbray: polygamous *
    Aphrodite Macbain: I wonder why "perversity"
    Bruce Mowbray: me too, Aph.
    Eliza Madrigal: speaking of wonderful, evocative language
    Bruce Mowbray: A LOT of ID, probably.
    Aphrodite Macbain: grins
    Bruce Mowbray: polymorphous -- NOT polygamous!
    Bruce Mowbray: sorry.

    (A Freudian slip if ever there was one)

    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: :)
    Eliza Madrigal grins
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah that makes even more sense
    Mickorod Renard: to Eliza..yes i would have been familiar with religious teachings as all in uk at that time had some re in school
    Bruce Mowbray: That was me -- not Freud -- who's thinking about polygamy.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I was never taught about angels
    Eliza Madrigal: ha ha
    Aphrodite Macbain: or devils for that matter
    Eliza Madrigal: I was taught all kinds of things as though they were in the bible but only later did I learn that they'd been gleaned from all over the place
    Bruce Mowbray: Really, Aph?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I cant imagine you having more than one wife Bruce!
    Bruce Mowbray: me NEITHER!!!! One was more than enough.
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes-really. We focused on the New Testament
    Bruce Mowbray: would rather have squirrels than wives, frankly.
    Bruce Mowbray: (or husbands).
    Eliza Madrigal: well, nodding to both bruce and freud, I first read polyamourous
    Aphrodite Macbain: I thought so
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Bruce Mowbray loves "polyamorous"
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'd like to be polyamourous
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Polly who?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'd love everyone and everyone would love me. :D
    Eliza Madrigal: I think it takes a lot of imagination to integrate the fragmentation...
    Agatha Macbeth: We do love you
    Aphrodite Macbain: <3 <3 <3
    Bruce Mowbray: "polyamorous" is preferable to "bi-sexual" or any of the other LGBTQ terms, IMHO.
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes! I like it too :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Excellent, Eliza! "A lot of imagination to integrate the fragmentation."
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes!
    Mickorod Renard: during my rebelious years I had a distinct enthusiasm to do as much anti Christ activities as I could..but one had to make an effort suggesting it wasn't natural
    Aphrodite Macbain: but also relying on instinct?
    Aphrodite Macbain: @Bruce
    Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
    Bruce Mowbray: or passion?
    Agatha Macbeth: Mick the Great Beast
    Aphrodite Macbain: we'd need a bit of all of them
    Eliza Madrigal: probably rebellion comes from strict ideas of conformity in the first place?
    Bruce Mowbray: I doubt that folks without a bit of devil in them would be very interesting.
    Mickorod Renard: very much,,in fact my dad was called God by most people
    Bruce Mowbray: Saints may be pure --- but OHHHH, so boring!
    Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
    Eliza Madrigal: all these mythical creatures :)
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Agatha Macbeth looks round
    Mickorod Renard: I was reffered to as rasputin..he he
    Bruce Mowbray ponders "virtual reality" as an oxymoron.
    Agatha Macbeth: My moron needs more oxy
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Eliza Madrigal: to be pure?
    Tura Brezoianu: It's all real, just a different medium
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Bruce Mowbray nods @ Tura.
    Eliza Madrigal agrees too
    Agatha Macbeth: Medium rare
    Tura Brezoianu: a rare medium
    Eliza Madrigal is really a mermaid but you just can't see that in the regular ol world, lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: and a Japanese mermaid as well
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Mermaidu
    Eliza Madrigal: he he

    Mickorod Renard: I have a mini report,,more to do with a private event i had this week..my dog dying
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, sorry to hear, Mick :(
    Xirana Oximoxi: oh, sorry Mick
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh my, so sorry, Mick.
    Bruce Mowbray listens....
    Mickorod Renard: no worries
    Eliza Madrigal: I know you mentioned... listens
    Mickorod Renard: something i was reflecting on tho: My old dog 17+ years died Tuesday night. i had called the vet earlier to have him put down but my son refused so we waited. I struggled with which part of the brains hemis was in play..I felt he needed an end to his suffering and felt driven by compassion..but I needed the strength and determination to push the choice to its end. An interesting period in life to reflect on this subject Done

    (Here I was busy googling and initially missed what Mick said til I read back)

    Agatha Macbeth: Apparently it's actually マーメイド (Māmeido)
    --BELL--
    Aphrodite Macbain: you speak Japanese Aggers?
    Agatha Macbeth: Google does
    Aphrodite Macbain: :_)

    Bruce Mowbray: No matter how old, or how long suffering, losing one's companion is a sort of shock....
    Eliza Madrigal: that's such a hard position to be put in :(
    Bleu Oleander: sorry to hear Mick ... tough time!
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm sorry you had to go through that Mick
    Mickorod Renard: I am ok with it,,in fact I am ok with most things like that
    Bruce Mowbray: Thank you for sharing that with us, Mick.
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww Mick
    Mickorod Renard: but i was able to look at it mentally
    Bruce Mowbray: and with compassion for the animal, it seems.
    Xirana Oximoxi: I had the same doubts with my first dog...it was a kind of resistence to lose her...but she was suffereng, so I took the decision, I felt like not dooing was egoistic
    Aphrodite Macbain: Interesting that you were struggling with brain hemispheres
    Eliza Madrigal: if you have little to no doubt about whether you're doing the best thing, then easier to move on
    Bruce Mowbray: a mindful struggle, too.
    Aphrodite Macbain: indeed
    Mickorod Renard: I dont know I was struggling with hemispheres, maybe concience and trying to evaluate my thinking
    Mickorod Renard: some in the family have lost it,,i find that hard to comprehend
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, but at the same time mindfu of your son's wishes and of the dog's suffering.
    Bruce Mowbray: mindful*
    Bleu Oleander: why do we feel differently with people ... or do we?
    Mickorod Renard: yes, that was the balancing issue Bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: So... it seems to me that the thread that is running through all of Maxine's text is the importance if integrating differences. Each section seems to come back to this. Do others get this too?
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes, Aph.
    Eliza Madrigal: definitely
    Bruce Mowbray: and the importance of not getting stuck in rigidity.
    Aphrodite Macbain: either/or..and...
    Eliza Madrigal: but also integration feels more violent than I'd thought of before reading this
    Mickorod Renard: I lost my sis recently, I had to just let it be..its natural and inevitab;le..but I fear i am becoming too,,,,,,unimotional
    Aphrodite Macbain: but so does splitting
    Eliza Madrigal: then seeing this image... maxine's in good company
    Eliza Madrigal nods Aph
    Mickorod Renard: yes, thats a good point eliza,,maxine is becoming company
    Bruce Mowbray: Blake and Milton also see integration as a sort of maturing through and out of violent (inward) conflict.
    Mickorod Renard: through her book
    Eliza Madrigal: ((mick)))
    Eliza Madrigal: I don't think you can be too emotional with things like that...
    Eliza Madrigal: just have to find channels for expression maybe

    The Inner Civil War

    Bruce Mowbray: Do others feel that unless we confront the inner violences in ourselves, we might be fated to have the violences be outer -- in the so-called "real world"?
    Mickorod Renard: I think I am becoming non emotional..perhaps equanamic?
    Aphrodite Macbain: sounds promising Mick
    Bleu Oleander: I haven't experienced "inner violences" @Bruce
    Eliza Madrigal: that seems what projection is, Bruce? I was looking at this image too, and the way the fire is in but also (perceived?) all around
    Bruce Mowbray: I surely have.
    Bleu Oleander: what do you mean by that?
    Aphrodite Macbain: We should all be better off if we can resolve our inner conflicts. We would be stronger to face the outer ones Bruce.
    Bruce Mowbray: Indeed, projection is moving the inner stuff (unconsciously) to the outer world.
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Bruce Mowbray: Like a civil war inside myself, Bleu.
    Eliza Madrigal: so one senses powerless and projects onto 'others' as taking power away
    Aphrodite Macbain: and giving the other more power
    Bleu Oleander: a violent civil war? seems a violent way to talk about the mind to me
    Bruce Mowbray: My mind has been VERY violent...
    Bruce Mowbray: although outwardly, no one would suspect that.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I would call mine minor skirmishes...
    Bruce Mowbray: I would call mine mass genocides.
    Bleu Oleander: why are we using all these war metaphors?
    Bruce Mowbray: (I'm not kidding.)
    Aphrodite Macbain: They dramatize the experience?
    Mickorod Renard: he he , grin..I think I can relate there too Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: My fantasies would curdle homogenized milk.
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Mickorod Renard: but for me it helps purge it
    Aphrodite Macbain: acidic?
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm almost sure you can, Mick.
    Eliza Madrigal: remember the Pinker book several years ago, that posited that our societies were becoming less violent even though it doesn't feel like it? It felt like, the more privilege to think out things, space, etc. then we call that civilized... civilizing forces being allowed to work
    Bruce Mowbray: Lonely, isn't it?
    Eliza Madrigal: but it doesn't necessarily mean we lost all those tendencies, and people in the midst of warzones wouldn't think that way probably
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, statistically, Pinker is right.
    Aphrodite Macbain: What did Pinker consider "civilizing forces"?
    Bruce Mowbray: (so far)
    Bleu Oleander: statistics are showing us as less violent, but media makes us think we're more violent
    Bruce Mowbray: Right, Bleu.
    Aphrodite Macbain: we are brainwashed by the media
    Mickorod Renard: when I do feel like that Bruce i am just me ..as a raging super ego..no companions
    Bruce Mowbray: The colors in Blake's illustration seem quite violent to me.
    Aphrodite Macbain: lots of fire around it all
    Eliza Madrigal: intense
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, that's what I meant by "lonely," Mick.
    Aphrodite Macbain: (I think those are flames)
    Agatha Macbeth: What's that thing in the middle of the egg that looks like a radio mast?
    --BELL--
    Aphrodite Macbain: I was wondering too
    Bruce Mowbray: That is Albion's head....
    Bruce Mowbray: or actually, his eye.
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Aphrodite Macbain: It is?
    Bruce Mowbray: Looks like an insect, doesn't it?
    Bruce Mowbray: like a moth about to burn up in a flame?
    Agatha Macbeth: Mantis?
    Eliza Madrigal: (I shouldn't say I read Pinker's book btw, since I only watched an interview, but in general the more sophisticated we become, but then are we thinking of the difference between distant drone strikes vs. hand to hand)
    Bruce Mowbray: yeah, or a mantis.

    Aphrodite Macbain: Sorry- I gotta go
    Bruce Mowbray: me too.
    Aphrodite Macbain: waves
    Bruce Mowbray: THANKS everyone!
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Aph, thanks :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye Aph and Bruce
    Eliza Madrigal: Thank YOU Bruce
    Bleu Oleander: bye Aph and Bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Eliza
    Bruce Mowbray: Be well.
    Xirana Oximoxi: I also go... take care all :)
    Mickorod Renard: bye everyone
    Aphrodite Macbain: great session. Thanks Bruce
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Xiri, nice for you to come
    Agatha Macbeth: Scrape well brucie
    Mickorod Renard: thanks bruce
    Bleu Oleander: bye Xiri
    Bruce Mowbray: I shall!
    Agatha Macbeth: Good luck with the war
    Tura Brezoianu: thanks Bruce, goodnight
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Aggers
    Eliza Madrigal points to tag and thanks aggers

    Eliza's Tag reads マーメイド

    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Agatha Macbeth: :P
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles

    Agatha Macbeth: Isn't it quiet?
    Eliza Madrigal: mhm
    Agatha Macbeth: Well it was...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Trust me
    Tura Brezoianu: ssh...the cat's peeing
    Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
    Tura Brezoianu: (something my father told me his father would say in a conversational lull)
    Agatha Macbeth: ^.^
    Bleu Oleander hopes the pups not :)
    Eliza Madrigal: @@
    Agatha Macbeth: To pee or not to pee
    Eliza Madrigal: I was walking george yesterday thinking, he even pees cute
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Bleu Oleander: Ha!
    Agatha Macbeth: He doesn't have far to go
    Eliza Madrigal: true ^^
    Agatha Macbeth: Must be hardly worth lifting his leg
    Mickorod Renard: ok ,,i am off,,see ya folks
    Eliza Madrigal laughs.... he's very balanced
    Agatha Macbeth: TC Mick
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Mick, see you soon
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Bleu Oleander: bye Mick
    Bleu Oleander: take care all
    Tura Brezoianu: goodnight all
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleuji
    Agatha Macbeth: And tura
    Bleu Oleander: byeee
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Bleu, Tura, Agatha
    Eliza Madrigal: <3
    Agatha Macbeth: This keyboard doesn't seem to like capitals anymore
    Eliza Madrigal: have some work to run to today
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Lizzy
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe you were too aggressive before
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Me aggresive?
    Agatha Macbeth: :P
    Eliza Madrigal: kidding of course :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Night friend
    Agatha Macbeth: Be careful out there
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't pass on the bends
    Eliza Madrigal needs to be less careful
    Eliza Madrigal: bfn <3

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    Thank you Agatha! I was looking for the log in emails and didn't realize you'd claimed the log. :)
    Posted 00:10, 28 Jul 2017
    Hehe, you need to be quick ;-)
    Posted 16:26, 31 Jul 2017
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