The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

Riddle Sideways: thank you, Listener Master
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Riddle Sideways: Welcome to Tuesday, leaping Adams
Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: what is on your mind, today?
Adams Rubble: Not too much. I have been multitasking this morning
Riddle Sideways: so much to do ... so little time
Riddle Sideways: so do them all at the same time

Adams Rubble: Have been reading the Rise and Fall of Adams and Eve book--last night and this morning about Saint Augustin
Adams Rubble: Augustine
Riddle Sideways: you have been going to the sessions?
Riddle Sideways: right, saw your comment
Adams Rubble: The story was central to St Augustine's idea fo god and good and evil according to the book author
Adams Rubble: no, I have not gone to any sessions
Adams Rubble: God
Riddle Sideways: the capitalization is important

Adams Rubble: I do not have much sympathy for the St Augustine presented by the book author
Adams Rubble: he thought his worse transgression was stealing some fruit that was not ripe and throw it at some goats as a child
Riddle Sideways: and do you from the presentation of other books?
Riddle Sideways: not as bad as chopping down the cherry tree
Adams Rubble: but he had a 13 year affair with a concubine that resulted in a child and he rejected her and sent her back to Africa from Milan so that he could be bethrothed to a ten year old girl
Adams Rubble: the marriage was to be two years later
Adams Rubble: he was about 30
Adams Rubble: that seemed worse to me
Adams Rubble: in any case, that did not happen because he became a celibate monk
Riddle Sideways: and got sainted for any of that
Adams Rubble: I think that was overlooked
Riddle Sideways: hmmm
Adams Rubble: in any case I do not know much about St Augustine other than seeing him in paintings
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Adams Rubble: so this was my introduction
Riddle Sideways: am knowing even less
Riddle Sideways: quick scanning of wikipedia
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, not reading the logic correctly this morning
Riddle Sideways: the usually carefully edited and reviewed wikipedia articles are back and forth on St. Austine
Adams Rubble: I am sure his theology is very complex and deep
Adams Rubble: Greenblatt was mainly interested in the role of Adam and Eve
Riddle Sideways: and seems at different points in his life, histories and writtings it changes
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: oh right! was off in Hippo
Adams Rubble: went through a series of changes
Riddle Sideways: had never heard of Saint Monica
Adams Rubble: I get confused because I started taking that course on Milton that Bleu put in the log yesterday and also listened to a recording of the Bible yesterday :)
Adams Rubble: St Monica is in paintings too :)))
Riddle Sideways: multitasking
Riddle Sideways: Augustine's mom
Adams Rubble: the readings were the story of Abraham, Isaac and jacob in Genesis
Adams Rubble: was struck by the amount of lying and deceit by the main characters
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Riddle Sideways: according to which (or all) authors?
Adams Rubble: The readings were from genesis

Riddle Sideways: Dubrovna's exhibit goes through Abraham and Issac
Riddle Sideways: and has many of the twists

Adams Rubble: Abraham tells the Egyptians that Sarah is his sister and one of the Pharoah's takes her as his wife and treats Abraham well because he is her brother
Adams Rubble: then God punishes Pharoah and he gives Sarah back to Abraham and tells him to bget out of town
Adams Rubble: teh same thing later happens with isaac and Rebecca
Riddle Sideways: ha, begot out of town ㋡
Adams Rubble: not with egyptians
Adams Rubble: Jacobs cheats Esau twice
Riddle Sideways: suppose to learn from these stories
Adams Rubble: Laban cheats jacob and gives him leah rather than Rachel
Riddle Sideways: ummm, not to do that
Adams Rubble: then he gets both
Riddle Sideways: has to work more years
Adams Rubble: there is competition among Leah and rachel and their respecyive slaves providing sons for jacob
Adams Rubble: then rachel steals laban's household gods when they finally leave and sits on them during the search
Adams Rubble: there never seem to be any recriminations for these deceits
Adams Rubble: I am talking too much; a couple of weeks ago you were talking about some Rosh Hasannah sermons you were going to tell
Riddle Sideways: go on, it is not too much and is interesting
Riddle Sideways: and is on your mind
Riddle Sideways: fresh
Adams Rubble: That's all my memories of the readings
Adams Rubble: Milton had a huuuuge ego :)
Riddle Sideways: there are other stories/readings where a person, their family and all their generations get blasted out of existence
Adams Rubble: oh yes and Sodom and Gemorrah were tucked in these readings
Riddle Sideways: so many angles to readings

Adams Rubble: I often think about how wonderful it would be if we still had the Alexandra Library today--so much knowedge has been lost
Riddle Sideways: yes!
Riddle Sideways: often think about what the dead sea scrolls have added, twisted, given
Riddle Sideways: finding those
Riddle Sideways: what the library would have had was so much more
Adams Rubble: Greenblatt does a nice job of going through the Babylonian stories and comparing them to the biblical account of the creation
Adams Rubble: yes, so many writings on so much - lost history, literature, science, geography
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Adams Rubble: religions
Riddle Sideways: We are living in that dark time before the auto-scroll reading machine is sent back in time
Riddle Sideways: to read all the scrolls and tablet in the library
Riddle Sideways: bring it forward, translate and
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: They have been working on the Dead Sea Scrolls my whole life :)
Riddle Sideways: the wise guys of the future realize that this bunch of generations should not hear of it

Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: well, no one, but a few, were allowed for so many of those years
Adams Rubble: In any case, each of those Genesis stories could be given the same treatment as Dibrovna gave the Sacrifice of Isaac Story
Adams Rubble nods about the way the scholarship on the scrolls was hidden from other schlars
Riddle Sideways: each of those stories is but a few condensed passages
Adams Rubble: was disgraceful
Riddle Sideways: then had to be leaked
Riddle Sideways: however, that Leaking was approved
Riddle Sideways: condoned
Adams Rubble: celebrated :)
Riddle Sideways: guess it keeps on depending which side of the fence
Adams Rubble: I am on the side that things need to be shared
Adams Rubble: Transparent Wall :)
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, caught seeing both sides
Riddle Sideways: the Book (Bible) got final edits and was not ever to be changed, rewritten
Adams Rubble: there are preservation issues but they can be wroked around
Riddle Sideways: then the cutting room floor edits were found
Adams Rubble: Hope you do not have the same problem editing the log :)
Adams Rubble: there goes Milton
Riddle Sideways: suggest you not read the final edit
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: might not be as you remember
Adams Rubble: there goes Adams
Riddle Sideways: BUT, your computer saved away the transcipt
Riddle Sideways: it gets leaked
Riddle Sideways: and Riddle's massive ego is exposed
Adams Rubble: Milton is back :)
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Riddle Sideways: "meanwhile back in the year One"
Riddle Sideways: "when you belonged to no One"
Riddle Sideways: You didn't stand a chance, Son
Adams Rubble: Esau?
Riddle Sideways: Tull
Adams Rubble: Jethro Tull?
Riddle Sideways: Jethro, Jerome, Jeremy, Jeramiah, somebody
Adams Rubble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHJOlaDrVs8
Riddle Sideways: thanks. was looking for the lyrics
Adams Rubble: I don;t think I ever heard this song
Riddle Sideways: funny. how one expects others to know everything and more
Riddle Sideways: a lot of good lines in that song
Riddle Sideways: it 'might' be about religion
Adams Rubble: it connects :)
Adams Rubble: Buddha nature :)
Riddle Sideways: yes
Adams Rubble was busy on the 70s and missed much of what was going on
Adams Rubble: thank you for the reference

Adams Rubble: I found this a somewhat exhausting session - we covered so much ground
Riddle Sideways: ummm, more on the pile
Adams Rubble: thank you
Riddle Sideways: it is the stuff... not said... between the lines
Adams Rubble: can't wait until the editing is done 30 years from now (giggles)
Riddle Sideways: the silences between notes
Adams Rubble: yes
Adams Rubble: yes, the stuff between the lines
Riddle Sideways: that is about it. with current procrastination
Adams Rubble: have a very good day. I hope the fires are extinguished soon
Adams Rubble: bye for now
Riddle Sideways: bye for now