The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: this hat is amazing, did you make it?
Bleu Oleander: I did :)
Bleu Oleander: tried to match my outfit :)
Eliza Madrigal: makes me smile
Eliza Madrigal: and even ribbons :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: Hi Raffi
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Raffi, Tura :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Tura :)
Raffila Millgrove: Hi Bleu, Tura, Eliza.
Tura Brezoianu: hi everyone
Eliza Madrigal: pretty dress, Tura
--BELL--
Raffila Millgrove: wow i just got a look at your toolbelt Bleu. That is so cool!
Bleu Oleander: ty Raffi
Bleu Oleander: my tools of the trade
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: Hi Mick
Eliza Madrigal: was looking at the artist you mentioned, and his statues looked snuggly, but what was that like with ceramics?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick :)
Mickorod Renard: Hiys
Bleu Oleander: his pieces have such presence
Bleu Oleander: he's a master
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aggers :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Aggers :)
Agatha Macbeth: Greetings
Mickorod Renard: Hi Ags
Agatha Macbeth: Clothing is so damn complicated these days
Raffila Millgrove: Hello MIc, Hi Aggers.
Mickorod Renard: Hi Raffi
Eliza Madrigal: at least body shape is manageable in SL, unlike in RL where it does things you don't choose...hehe
Raffila Millgrove: I wear mostly my old stuff cause I won't get a mesh body so I am saving money I guess on clothes.
Agatha Macbeth: Oh forget mesh bodies
Agatha Macbeth: WAY too complex
Bleu Oleander: I make mine :)
Mickorod Renard: i dont even know what body I have or what a mesh one is
Eliza Madrigal: but you have some beautiful outfits Raffi
Raffila Millgrove: all this mesh body and so forth. I finally had to get mesh feet so I could wear some new shoes now and then, but it's so complicated about makeup and appliers. for the face? I can't deal with it.
Bleu Oleander: lots of great designers
Eliza Madrigal: I've had these pants for the 8 years I've been here :)
Bleu Oleander: too complicated these days
Agatha Macbeth: Hope you washed them :p
Mickorod Renard: wearing well Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: self washing wardrobe
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Raffila Millgrove: I designed my avi to look like me.. as a young woman on the first day I came here. 11 yrs ago now and I am sure not getting some everyone else has one.. head.
Raffila Millgrove: I dunno how i managed to achieve getting it right as a brand newbie.. but.. i sure won't change ever.
Mickorod Renard: mine is the same old me from the beginning..I wondered if I should go grey
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: I'm not sure how any of us manage it
Eliza Madrigal: how would that work?
Agatha Macbeth: No wonder most people give up after a week
Bleu Oleander: awww its fun
Bleu Oleander: need to take some risks
Agatha Macbeth: I think I probably would if I hadn't met Wol
Agatha Macbeth: And found PaB
Eliza Madrigal: that's what happens... meet a fabulous person, then that leads to another, and another and before you know it... 8, 11... years gone by...
Raffila Millgrove: well everyone had the same viewer in the old days and lots of people enjoyed helping newbies. it was so cool to do that.. and make new friends all the time. i really enjoyed that. once we got different viewers.. that wasn't happening anymore. Viewer 2 really wrecked the community feeling we had for newbies.
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Agatha Macbeth: Then you go on meeting them
Eliza Madrigal: yup, and meeting the same ones in new ways
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
Bleu Oleander: like rl
Agatha Macbeth: How's Adam & Eve today?
Tura Brezoianu: My av doesn't look like me, but I have a strong sense of how Tura should look, so no identikit mesh body for me either.
Mickorod Renard: Hi Tura, I didnt see ya
Eliza Madrigal: I like that "a strong sense of how Tura should look"
Raffila Millgrove: exactly. also these mesh wmen's bodies have insane big hips. i don't get it. i prefer the skinny Barbie thing. lol
Bleu Oleander: you can change a mesh body too
Agatha Macbeth: I wonder about that too
Agatha Macbeth: Some look like caricatures
Bleu Oleander: yes, well even the old avies do too
Eliza Madrigal nods
Agatha Macbeth: THe male ones certainly
Raffila Millgrove: all the women in this new sim i live in.. the rp thing.. they all look odd to me with these... bodies. it's like those men who used to have crazy musciles and pinheads.. no neck guys.
Agatha Macbeth: King Kong how are ya
Mickorod Renard: I do wonder whether if one has a great laptop/pc with good g.card..if the avis look better with more detail
Eliza Madrigal: SL looks much better in shadows but I can't run them
Raffila Millgrove: is it now fashionable to have Kim Kardashian butts?
Agatha Macbeth: Probably not Mick :P
Raffila Millgrove: maybe I am old fashioned.
Bleu Oleander: yes ... the better your graphics card the more you can see
Agatha Macbeth: OMG look at her butt...
Mickorod Renard: ah thats ok then..I tried changing the valves in this but no improvement
Eliza Madrigal: btw, Riddle and Adams had a nice chat about the book topics, is posted today: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/index.php?title=Chat_Logs/2017/10/2017.10.17_07:00_-_St._Augustine%27s_skating_away
Raffila Millgrove: well i got my new graphics card a few weeks ago.. to replace a misake that happened.. and i am back to full on great graphics.. and the butts are still enormous.
Mickorod Renard: he he
Bleu Oleander: always forget about Riddle's session ... mean to go
Agatha Macbeth: Hey diddle Riddle
Mickorod Renard: I feel dreadfully guilty when I think of Adams..as I should be doing an interview or something
Bleu Oleander: did they jump ahead to Augustine?
Raffila Millgrove: I actually don't go to it because.. the two have enjoyed each other together.. so much. They are welcoming of course, but I feel like instrusive.
Agatha Macbeth: Guilty Mick?
Mickorod Renard: I think that comes in chapter 5
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eliza Madrigal: I like reading them too, but Tuesday morns, in general, are difficult
Mickorod Renard: yes Ags, I have not responded adequately
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Eliza Madrigal: Adams is reading on her own, also taking the Milton course you suggested Bleu
Mickorod Renard: but we have only covered up to and incl 4
Bleu Oleander: yes great
Mickorod Renard: I have a small response..or what do we call it?
Bleu Oleander: yes, so 4 ... what topics shall we discuss?
Eliza Madrigal: I finished chat 4, and enjoyed it but not with the relish of chap 3
Agatha Macbeth: Size isn't important
--BELL--
Mickorod Renard: shall I paste my report
Bleu Oleander: sure
Agatha Macbeth: Please
Mickorod Renard: loved this chapter in the book as it sort of reaffirmed my thoughts about this story in the bible. Not to be taken literally but for reflection and philosophising on. Didnt quite get how A and E may have had God status. Lots to ponder over...refreshing line of investigation/exploration.
Bleu Oleander: allegory or real? seems still an issue these days
Mickorod Renard: I liked the additional input from the other books found..and the references to those and other findings
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bleu Oleander: with a book like this, it pays off to look up references
Mickorod Renard: yes, its still an issue,,but does it matter?
Bleu Oleander: good question
Mickorod Renard: I am thinking of folk with strong beliefs..i think they compartmentalize it,,I do
Bleu Oleander: does one base one's faith on an allegory? or at what point does allegory become real?
Eliza Madrigal: There was one part... mention of Adam and Eve in glory, that reminded me of something I was taught in church, about the origin story. The story went something like, that A and E were clothed in glory from the inside out (their communion with god), and that's what they lost ... sight of the garden all around them. So their shame came from not exuding the glory
Bleu Oleander: that's similar to some of the other stories that surfaced but never made it into the bible
Mickorod Renard: I like to think how real could be replaced with reevant,,to an individual
Mickorod Renard: relavent*
Bleu Oleander: so use the stories as stories to think with?
Mickorod Renard: I like that idea yes
Mickorod Renard: a bit like a cook book..maybe you get by,,but then all of a sudden a bit of guidance come in
Bleu Oleander: and the pie turns out delish
Mickorod Renard: I know that sound flippant and I cerainly dont mean it disrespectfully
Agatha Macbeth: 3.147
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: (Approx.)
Bleu Oleander: of course
Eliza Madrigal: it is odd to consider the question because most of the stories are there before one considers their role in one's life or not..so they rise as resonate to the moment at hand, or not
Mickorod Renard: that what you were saying Eliza..thats another good thought
Mickorod Renard: yes Eliza!
Bleu Oleander: and many books can be used that way, even novels
Eliza Madrigal: definitely
Eliza Madrigal: I think I still think like that... re the glory, because it jives well with how I 'feel' when in flow or not.. sense of openness and connection, or looking to get back to that. the question of god is not as pertinent
Tura Brezoianu: There are all these different views of things, but in Christianity one gets chosen to be right and all the others are proclaimed wrong.
Tura Brezoianu: And it seems to be just historical accident which is which.
Eliza Madrigal: with some corrupting power thrown in :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: interesting ... flow = glory
Tura Brezoianu: and sexual hangups (Augustine)
Agatha Macbeth: The power and the flow
Eliza Madrigal: presence/nowness/enoughness/etc :)
Raffila Millgrove: maybe this was said already.. because I got behind and meets/reading.. but I loved chapter 2-3 because there was so much info on earlier religions. I wasn't very well "up to date" on that...I wished in a way that the Babylonians religions didn't fall by the wayside. I liked a lot of it.
Bleu Oleander: there are too many to count that fell by the wayside
Raffila Millgrove: well you can't control which way history will unfold but.. i never was a big fan of all the sin and cruelty that are part of the Torah and the Bible.
Mickorod Renard: I still feel in a way that we all have to find our independance..and its often at a cost ..some we are happy to pay,,some is at great difficulty..a sort of example ..as in this story there could be a similarity to being thrown out of home..fending for oneself in a harsh world......or it could be much more complex. There are how women may be seen..or have been seen as role models
Raffila Millgrove: starting with "original sin". which went thru a lot of revisions I guess.
Eliza Madrigal: formula for sexual hangups itself :)
Raffila Millgrove: all that work by Origen. that was interesting.
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: oh, yes, it was
Bleu Oleander: yes
Mickorod Renard: yeh, a bit of an extreme act on his behalf
Bleu Oleander: :)
Tura Brezoianu: eep
Mickorod Renard: an ear wud have been a better sacrifice
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Raffila Millgrove: Last year I read on book on the topic of the "cutting room floor".. all the things that didn't make it into the official new testament.
Bleu Oleander: but then he would have to have been an artist
Mickorod Renard: he he
Bleu Oleander: the importance of "the editor"
Tura Brezoianu listens for more from the cutting room floor
Mickorod Renard: well, not many folk have read the bible in full,,I am glad it isnt bigger
Bleu Oleander: I have :)
Eliza Madrigal: as well
Raffila Millgrove: to imagine all the arguments, the revisions, the rewrites and as you say.. the various editors. it's kind of remarkable anything is coherent.
Mickorod Renard: I mostly have,,but did cheat on boring bits
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Adams :)
Agatha Macbeth: Adams :)
Mickorod Renard: Hi Adams..goes red
Raffila Millgrove: I read the bible several times. i read it about every ten years. it's a long exhuasting experience. I am not doing it anymore.
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Agatha Macbeth: She's come to interview you Mick :p
Adams Rubble: Hello everyone :)
Mickorod Renard: shhhhh
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Adams :)
Agatha Macbeth: Nice dress
Adams Rubble: thanks
Eliza Madrigal: I became fixated on Enoch when reading the begats... is sort of neat for it to be going on and on then pop there is something interesting
Bleu Oleander: :)
Mickorod Renard: I must admit, if we did a book read club on every stroy in the bible we would be on here for another 100 year
Agatha Macbeth: Yes it does go on a bit
Mickorod Renard: I think that was what I cheated on
Raffila Millgrove: I always liked the book: Proverbs. It's the one book I could enjoy.. i don't know why. i just like it a lot.
Mickorod Renard: I had a fixation on the woman from sumaria at the well
Agatha Macbeth: Surprise
Mickorod Renard: or wherever she was from
Eliza Madrigal: I'm not so sure I'd like to read it again, but I like including it as material along with other things, talking with curious minded people rather than arguing
Tura Brezoianu: Yes, I like Proverbs and Baruch, straightforward advice on the good life.
Bleu Oleander: agree Eliza
Raffila Millgrove: yes. it seems very solid Tura.. in a way the rest isn't.
Raffila Millgrove: i like how you put it.
Mickorod Renard: would you say the view we have of Eve may have changed due to a more liberated approach we have these days..or is it something that has been an age old question?
Mickorod Renard: and
Eliza Madrigal: this is an incredible time in the sense we can access so much, so much variation
Mickorod Renard: do you think the guilt Adam had was more to do with being in a unified relationship with har and as such jointly responsible?
Mickorod Renard: for eg,,a couple as one
Eliza Madrigal: up for interpretation, but even in the most basic telling of the story he had a moment of choice, even if she gave it?
Bleu Oleander: its still a struggle for women
Mickorod Renard: is the struggle you mention Bleu, that of getting rid/past/over the label the story attached to omen,,ven if it may not have been intended?
Eliza Madrigal nods Bleu
Bleu Oleander: yes, women as inferior to men and subservient
Adams Rubble: I am hesitating commenting because I am coming late to the discussion
Mickorod Renard: It has multi angles to look at
Raffila Millgrove agrees with Bleu. When I see a woman Pope, a woman iman, a woman as dali ....then I will know we reached equality. I honestly don't think 1000 years.. will be enough time. i think it will never happen.
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: even comparable pay in the workplace would be nice :)
Eliza Madrigal: such a strong backlash... always startled by it
Adams Rubble: Interpreting the story to show women as inferior was unconscionable
Eliza Madrigal: Dalai Lama has said if he reincarnates, it may be as a woman
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Mickorod Renard: when one gets married ,,great effort is made by the vicar to stress the meaning of mariage,,and the becoming as one,,but noone really understands that until afterwards maybe..and this story does have some emphasis on that
Mickorod Renard: when one hurts the other they are hurting themselves too
Bleu Oleander: I don't like the part, "I will greatly increase your pangs in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband and he shall rule over you."
Raffila Millgrove: I didn't know he said that. thanks for sharing. I admire him greatly. I think he is a very holy special person.
Tura Brezoianu: I prefer the interpretation that the God of Eden was evil and the serpent good.
Bleu Oleander: :)
Tura Brezoianu: There's a parallel with the Prometheus legend
Eliza Madrigal: that was really interesting, reading that
Tura Brezoianu: punished by the gods for giving us fire
Raffila Millgrove: the older he gets.. he gets more interesting every year. he evolves and changes his mind on things.
Eliza Madrigal: the contrast of the tree of life 'vs' the tree of the knowledge of good and evil has always been so odd
Mickorod Renard: I think there may have been some artistic licence used when writing up our version of the bible..but if some of the stories are intact as for purpose,,we could see through some of the artistic bit
Mickorod Renard: is there not a tree in the quabbalah?
Eliza Madrigal: unless one looks at it like good vs. evil, that way of seeing, breaking up the oneness/connection Mick mentions.... then it is at least understandable for a story
Mickorod Renard: or cabbala?
Eliza Madrigal: both close Mick :)
Mickorod Renard: even in thoth
Eliza Madrigal is going to take a Kabbalah (?) day class in Nov.
Agatha Macbeth: Nice
Raffila Millgrove: really? why?
Mickorod Renard: that tree is used as a means of spiritual furtherment I believe?
Agatha Macbeth: Have fun with Ain Sof
Raffila Millgrove: what caused you to select that?
Eliza Madrigal: I've always liked it... there was a very good teacher in SL for about 3 months.... and I attended the classes
Eliza Madrigal: just find it evocative, interesting
Bleu Oleander: what do you like about it?
Mickorod Renard: I did something with it in my 20's
Eliza Madrigal: hard to describe, but there is a lot of poetry....
Eliza Madrigal: even after those months it was still way beyond me, but I still felt rapt attention
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Mickorod Renard: some of these things open diferent doors in the mind
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Eliza Madrigal: nice,yes
Eliza Madrigal: aren't trees of life seen as kind of pathways to and from metaphorical eden?
Mickorod Renard: and many have similar outcomes..or findings,,as we have found in our own explorations here in pab
Bleu Oleander: living forever?
Mickorod Renard: I believe so eliza
Eliza Madrigal: endless
Bleu Oleander: isn't that what god was worried about?
Eliza Madrigal: they could have accessed the tree of life if they hadn't touched the other...
Bleu Oleander: now that the humans had knowledge, he didn't want them to live forever :)
Mickorod Renard: maybe this is what we can ponder,,was that the tree in the garden?
Eliza Madrigal: :) maybe he just wanted pets, lol
Adams Rubble: If we kived forever I could possibly get through that pile of books next to me
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Eliza Madrigal: ha ha
Mickorod Renard: he he
Tura Brezoianu: I keep on buying books faster than I read them
Mickorod Renard: I am struggling to read a chapter a week
Bleu Oleander: my speed reading is getting better
Eliza Madrigal: me too... although I read a book in a day on Saturday... had been forever since I did that :)
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Mickorod Renard: too much to do here
Eliza Madrigal: well, a book that size anyway "The Book of Dust"
Bleu Oleander: I've done that :)
Agatha Macbeth: Ashes to ashes
Mickorod Renard: I read my motorcycle mags
Bleu Oleander: lots of pics?
Mickorod Renard: some yes
Mickorod Renard: :)
Raffila Millgrove: before my episode with cancer drugs.. for 20 yrs i read a book a day. I can't read that fast anymore, but I still manage four or five a week.
Eliza Madrigal: goodness
Bleu Oleander: OMG
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: and remember them?
Mickorod Renard: phew,,amazing
Raffila Millgrove: hehe. of course not.
Raffila Millgrove: but it's fun to realize that I have forgotten 90 pcerent of what i once .. knew. no biggie. i remember what seems worth recalling.
Mickorod Renard: well,,there is the church bell chiming
Eliza Madrigal: some books you read for content and others for atmosphere
Bleu Oleander: we have to edit ... too much info out there
Bleu Oleander: got to run
Bleu Oleander: take care all
Mickorod Renard: bye belu
Adams Rubble: bye all. Nice to see you :)
Agatha Macbeth: TC
Bleu Oleander: bfn
Eliza Madrigal: bye Bleu, Mick, Adams, Tura :)
Tura Brezoianu: bye all
Agatha Macbeth: Wow that was a quick hour.
Mickorod Renard: Adams, i will search out the last mail u sent me
Raffila Millgrove: I love factoids. here's a good one. You want to a 3 way target for patients to request a different dr? Be a female physician of color,under 35. latest news from medscape.
Mickorod Renard: Bye Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: sigh
Mickorod Renard: bye everyone
Eliza Madrigal: thanks Mick
Mickorod Renard: thanks to all
Mickorod Renard: thanks Ags
Raffila Millgrove: they did a big study report.. on patients requesting a different dr. based on gender, race, percieved ehthicity and age. Evidentally it happens a lot.
Agatha Macbeth: YW
Eliza Madrigal: when people are afraid they revert to base feelings I guess
Eliza Madrigal: base stories
Raffila Millgrove: what they also discover is that almost no medical instituions have defined policy or procedure ... for drs to report... for how to handle those patients. only one instituation has a program/policy in place. The veteran's administration.
Raffila Millgrove: that really surprised me.
Eliza Madrigal: wow
Agatha Macbeth: The moral is don't get sick
Raffila Millgrove: theres somuch wrong with the VA hosptials but evidentally they got thisone thing right when no one else bothered with it.
Eliza Madrigal: yet still depends on the person at hand having the knowledge and working with it in a skillful way
Eliza Madrigal: long way to go
Raffila Millgrove: it's very hard on young drs. they are perceived as weak or oversensitive.. if they report a patient is talking this way.
Eliza Madrigal: can imagine
Raffila Millgrove: they get no advice or counseling on how to deal with it.
Raffila Millgrove: and they don't report it.
Raffila Millgrove: it's not good.
Raffila Millgrove: and in the current climate, people are feeling freer to express their ideas that they previuosly kept quiet on.
Eliza Madrigal nods... progress seems pushed farther away
Raffila Millgrove: we are going backwards at a rather rapid clip. it's had to watch... when one was always thinking we were movng forward bit by bit.
Eliza Madrigal: but then some think there is a sort of last gasp, revelation of hidden tendencies coming to light to be let go of
Eliza Madrigal: I wish I believed that :)
Raffila Millgrove: nice way to think of it Eliza. I don't believe it but it's a nice way to think positive on it. lol
Eliza Madrigal: when the white supremacists were marching in the streets... they were so so young
Eliza Madrigal: popped my balloon
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Raffila Millgrove sighs.
Eliza Madrigal: there are a heck of a lot of 'light minded' folks too though, at the same time
Raffila Millgrove: well i must go and have yet another grisly customer service experience.. I am now dealing with problem number 17. I made a list so i didn't keep asking myself if i was losing my mind.
Eliza Madrigal: ouch
Eliza Madrigal: take care Raffi, good luck
Raffila Millgrove: ty.
Agatha Macbeth: Only 17?
Raffila Millgrove: well i didn't count the stuff at the grocery store..
Agatha Macbeth: :P
Eliza Madrigal: sure you don't live in Miami>
Raffila Millgrove: or the fact that i accidentally must have washed my hair while it was braided and didn't notice and had to cut a huge baseball size hair out of my head. and now i have bangs. i didn't count that stuff.
Eliza Madrigal: ouch x3
Eliza Madrigal: :(
Raffila Millgrove: yeah i saved the hair. it's like amazing. my family is astounded.
Agatha Macbeth: Hair today gone tomorrow
Raffila Millgrove: lol
Raffila Millgrove: yep
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Raffila Millgrove: and they keep saying.how did that happ-en? and i don't know how. which is the worst.
Raffila Millgrove: partly why i made the list.. the fear that i must be losing my mind. hair thing didn't help.
Eliza Madrigal: wishing you a more harmonious week ahead, and fast growing hair
Raffila Millgrove: hehe.
Eliza Madrigal: :) unless you look good in bangs
Agatha Macbeth: Truly
Raffila Millgrove: yes it is already better. so I think it is over.
Raffila Millgrove: this bad star thing. i think we're done with it.. so it's all good.
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Raffila Millgrove: bye Aggers, Eliza.
Eliza Madrigal waves
Agatha Macbeth: TC Raff
Eliza Madrigal: what is the phrase... en lectino divina? when you sort of imbibe a text rather than reading it?
Agatha Macbeth: So, dear Kabbalist...

Agatha Macbeth: Oh no idea
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it's a subliminal thing
Eliza Madrigal: its the recommended way to read spiritual texts, along with reading the information...
Eliza Madrigal: so like at the end of Psalms it says "se lah"
Agatha Macbeth: Get it over quickly? :p
Eliza Madrigal: to meditate on it...read with inner self... write on tablet of your heart...
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Oh that
Agatha Macbeth: Right
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: well it doesn't always stick in memory but it leaves a marker of some sort, like a shiny bookmark to feel your way through
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Agatha Macbeth: I don't feel bookmarks much
Eliza Madrigal: :p
Agatha Macbeth: Just lose them
Agatha Macbeth: They seem to migrate to the same place the other sock goes
Eliza Madrigal: https://www.amazon.com/Snowy-Owl-3-D.../dp/1441316817
Eliza Madrigal: I have this one
Eliza Madrigal: but A says it is disturbing for the owls to really seem to be looking at you :)
Agatha Macbeth: Not while they're inside the book they can't
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Agatha Macbeth: You just hear muffled squawks
Agatha Macbeth: @Let us out'
Eliza Madrigal: we demand freedom
Agatha Macbeth: Owls are people too
Agatha Macbeth: Oh wait...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: you are floating again
Agatha Macbeth: Yes it's me hover
Agatha Macbeth: Better
Eliza Madrigal: :) yes
Agatha Macbeth: At least we *can* adjust it now
Eliza Madrigal: when I stand I'll be hovering too
Agatha Macbeth: Bad news for a fiddler like me tho, I can never leave it alone
Eliza Madrigal: maddening, but then you always have something to do
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I always have
Agatha Macbeth: Usually too much hehe
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Still there's never a dull moment
Agatha Macbeth: Or there is I miss them
Agatha Macbeth: if
Eliza Madrigal: haha, that's more likely
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Agatha Macbeth: How's George?
Eliza Madrigal: needs a bath... quite stinky and sticky
Agatha Macbeth: Ick
Eliza Madrigal: not sure how he got that way ...
Eliza Madrigal: prob wet grass
Agatha Macbeth: With dogs you never know
Eliza Madrigal: yeah...
Agatha Macbeth: At least cats are self-cleaning
Eliza Madrigal: he's so precious though
Eliza Madrigal: true, most... until they age...
Agatha Macbeth: He is
Agatha Macbeth: Mr droopy ears
Eliza Madrigal: I feel towards George like I did toward the kids when they were toddlers... hear myself talking to him the same way, holding him similarly sometimes
Eliza Madrigal: so funny
Eliza Madrigal: and he responds with open curiosity... you just need to gasp at him and he is in full alert
Agatha Macbeth: Time to worry is when he starts talking back
Eliza Madrigal: :) then I'll know I've finally turned the corner
Agatha Macbeth: Eliza Doolittle
Eliza Madrigal: ^.^
Agatha Macbeth: Woof
Eliza Madrigal: kids' pizza has arrived
Agatha Macbeth: It walked?
Eliza Madrigal: carrying a man
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: Never been over fond of pizza
Eliza Madrigal: lazy dinner tonight
Eliza Madrigal: I like it, but not having any tonight
Agatha Macbeth: Zzzz
Eliza Madrigal: night friend <3
Agatha Macbeth: My those are long legs
Eliza Madrigal: sweet dreams
Agatha Macbeth: TC
Eliza Madrigal: hah, long and hovering
Agatha Macbeth: I'll try