2019.09.09 07:00 - Burning the Old Self

 

The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.

Riddle, Eden and Adams

Experiencing silence in a crowd at Burning Man

 

Eden Haiku: Good morning Burning Man!

Eden Haiku: You made me laugh with your almost 20,000 steps on an electric bike!

Riddle Sideways: ha, morning Eden

Eden Haiku: How fantastic, being at Burning Man! I'm jealous...

Riddle Sideways: it was a lot of biking

Riddle Sideways: so many people were there from lots of countries

Eden Haiku: and the silence when they burnt the man....

Eden Haiku: Read your session with Adams :)

Riddle Sideways: when they burnt the Temple

Riddle Sideways: yes, saw your comment

Eden Haiku: Ah, the Temple...

Riddle Sideways: the Man burning was much hoopa

Riddle Sideways: morning Adams

Eden Haiku: I know the story of why they burn a wooden man...

Adams Rubble: Good morning Eden and Riddle :)

Eden Haiku: Oh, so   beautiful in purple  

 

Adams! Good morning :)

 

Adams beautiful in purple

Adams Rubble: Apologies to Eden for not having September ready when she tried to post last week

Adams Rubble: don't let me interrupt

Riddle Sideways: not interrupting

Riddle Sideways: we have not gotten down to serious "how is the weather" questions yet

Eden Haiku: No problem Adams. I edited only yesterday, busy week :)

Eden Haiku: Want the story of Burning Man?

Riddle Sideways: yes, please

Eden Haiku: This guy who created the festival lived in San Francisco.

Eden Haiku: One summer, he lost his girlfriend, his dog and his job (something like that)

Eden Haiku: He decided he was going to become a new man

Eden Haiku: So he built a representation of himself in wood

Eden Haiku: Invited all his friends

Eden Haiku: And they burned the "old man"

Eden Haiku: Later, the festival moved to the desert...Easier to organize there...

Riddle Sideways: was on a beach in S.F.

Riddle Sideways: think it was Lands End beach

Eden Haiku: So "Burning Man" is burning the "old self". I like that :)

Eden Haiku: On a beach yes :)

Riddle Sideways: yes, like that

Eden Haiku: How long did you stay at the festival Riddle?

Riddle Sideways: a long time, 12 days

Riddle Sideways: was fun setting up and later breaking down

Eden Haiku: Wow!!!

Riddle Sideways: while others sat in traffic

Eden Haiku: Yes :)

Eden Haiku: The silence at the burning of the Temple, how did you experience it?

Riddle Sideways: was a huge party Labor day night, with most people gone and only the Art cars that threw flames

Eden Haiku: wow!

Riddle Sideways: All those great words, blessings and photos in the Temple

 

—BELL--

 

Riddle Sideways: were heart wrenching

Eden Haiku: Ah, yes, the prayers on pieces of paper. I remember from Burning Life in SL and then Burning Man2

Riddle Sideways: tens of thousands of people sat around the perimeter

Riddle Sideways: all got silent

Riddle Sideways: and a small flame started

Eden Haiku: amazing

Riddle Sideways: got bigger

Riddle Sideways: the embers drifted high up and were like fairies flying off

Eden Haiku: Fairies :))

Eden Haiku: Still at the burning of the Temple :)

Riddle Sideways: yesterday read a NY Times article on Burning Man and most paragraphs kept mentioning Orgies. Didn't see nor hear of any.

Eden Haiku: Oh my!

Eden Haiku: Reporters....

Adams Rubble giggles at septuagenarian orgies

Eden Haiku: smiles

Eden Haiku: Seeing young nude bodies might seem like "orgies" to old uncles from the NY Times....

Riddle Sideways: yes, probably

Riddle Sideways: articles about Nobel Economics winner on City planning are soooo boring that Orgies need to be mentioned to wake the reader

 

Delightful moments

 

Eden Haiku: What was the highest most delightful moment for you Riddle?

Riddle Sideways: so so many. Each day some new most delightful

Eden Haiku: Wow! Did you play guitar, I guess so :)

Eden Haiku: Jammed with others?

Eden Haiku: Discovered great music?

Riddle Sideways: one was wa a young topless lady walked up with a platter of about 20 grilled cheese sandwiches and stated that last night's soup was THE BEST

Eden Haiku: Oh wow! Soooo sweet!

Riddle Sideways: our camp had a piano and piano Tuner (twice a day)

Eden Haiku: smiles

Riddle Sideways: so many different pianist just drifted in

Riddle Sideways: sat down and played for a half hour

Eden Haiku: Someone brought a piano there...

Riddle Sideways: yes

Eden Haiku: What about you Adams? What have you been up to?

Riddle Sideways: there were several around the area

Eden Haiku: Amazing….

 

—BELL--

 

Adams Rubble: I won't interrupt Riddle. Nothing much happening here

Riddle Sideways: need to report that a meowing cat was let out at the beginning of the pause and was back scratching to get in before the end of 90-sec

Riddle Sideways: please interrupt

 

Being involved in changing the world

 

Eden Haiku: I remember reading somewhere you had been upset about something Adams ?

Riddle Sideways: the town meetings

Eden Haiku: Ah yes....

Adams Rubble: I have decided to hang in there for now. Need to overhaul my schedule and priorities

Eden Haiku: Cat just dashes out and runs right back in? Funny :)

Eden Haiku: right Adams. Your well-being is primordial. First things first.

Eden Haiku: The courage to change things we can

Eden Haiku: And the wisdom to let go when we can't

Adams Rubble: It's the ugly things that pop up into one's consciousness that one can not change that are rough

Eden Haiku: I see what you mean :)

Eden Haiku: It feels like being poisoned sometimes doesn’t it?

Adams Rubble: ohhhh, that sounds like

Eden Haiku: listening

Adams Rubble: hmm, that was a bit Shakespearian

Adams Rubble: phrase

Eden Haiku: I think it's from Sans Francis of Assisi. Used in 12 steps groups.

Adams Rubble: I want to say that I have a good set of friends in RL and we are all dealing with this together

Adams Rubble: that is why I am staying with it. When I decided to quit, it felt like I was quitting a job

Riddle Sideways: good

Adams Rubble: I had to analyze why--what was my loss?

Adams Rubble: it was the friends

Eden Haiku: But the wisdom is to be able to tell the difference between what we can change and what we can't .

Adams Rubble: we are working together on this

Eden Haiku: Oh, the friends is quite a loss yes....

Eden Haiku: Sadly…

Adams Rubble: and no one ever accused me of writing a "love document" before :)

Eden Haiku: That's pretty harsh ;)

Eden Haiku: Being called "mushy" because you care about others I guess?

Adams Rubble: I am beginning to feel prideful :)

Eden Haiku: Good!

Eden Haiku: I admire you both for being so involved in your communities...

Adams Rubble: I admiring your hosting skills Eden :)

Eden Haiku: smiles

Riddle Sideways: Admiring that We are still coming here

Eden Haiku: A few days ago, I woke up at dawn with a flash

Adams Rubble: it would be like quitting a job :)

Riddle Sideways: ㋡

Eden Haiku: Yes Riddle,me too. We are loyal souls :)

Riddle Sideways: /listens for the Flash

 

—BELL--

 

Eden Haiku: Took my phone andwrote the last page of my novel. It jumps at the end but I have to fill the rest from the middle to the last page. It will make things easier. Writing is my main involvement with the world :)

Adams Rubble: :)

Adams Rubble: writing can inspire others

Eden Haiku: It ends with my chance meeting with great Chinese artist Ai Weiwei in a museum in Paris a few years ago. And the last sentence is a tongue-in-cheek one about he being my new guru. To end a book about being devoted to a guru for so many years and wanting to be her biographer :) I love the ending!

Eden Haiku: It ends on a light note.

Adams Rubble: :)

Eden Haiku: Instead of striving for spiritual "freedom", I will be seeking being an artist involved in changing the world as he is like in his documentary "Human Flow" :)))

Eden Haiku: Not there yet though...

Eden Haiku: Just baby steps

 

Dancing moves 

Onigokko!

Eden Haiku: onigokko

Adams Rubble: omg

Eden Haiku: Was there a lot of dancing in Burning Man?

Eden Haiku: stop

Riddle Sideways: whewwwww

Eden Haiku: Feels good!

Riddle Sideways: lots of dancing

Eden Haiku: I miss dancing....

Riddle Sideways: was lots of dancing not understood. watched lots of Techno/Electorica trance dancing

Eden Haiku: Nice moves Adams!

Riddle Sideways: oooooo great Twist, Adams

 

Adam twisting

Eden Haiku: Oh, yeah, the twist!

Riddle Sideways: knees use to be able to move that way ㋡

Adams Rubble: :)

Riddle Sideways: need to find a SL twist (and many other dances), since RL getting harder to dance

Eden Haiku: hehe Riddle :)

Riddle Sideways: wow

Eden Haiku: Beautiful dance Adams!

Riddle Sideways: Flamenco

Adams Rubble: yes

 

—BELL--

 

Eden Haiku: Lovely flamenco, such a proud dance! Taking a stand!

Eden Haiku: Saw such a great flamenco dancer once in a Spanish Cultural Center, went to congratulate her, learned she was from Calgary :))))

Adams Rubble: :)))

Eden Haiku: But she was soooo good!

Adams Rubble: flamenco and rodeo all in one

Eden Haiku: laughs

Riddle Sideways:Calgary = the Flamenco capitol

Eden Haiku: smiles

Adams Rubble once applied for a job in Calgary

Adams Rubble: they did not respond

Riddle Sideways: once drove through Calgary

Eden Haiku: Dancing shakes things up...oh, do tell, in a museum Adams?

Adams Rubble: in a university

Adams Rubble: it's a looooong way from things

Eden Haiku: Rode through Calgary on a bus while going to University of Edmonton to give a writing worskhop.

Riddle Sideways: brb

Adams Rubble: I hope not from Montreal :) [No, flew to Calgary]

Eden Haiku: Know a great poet from Calgary. Met her in Montreal. Sheryl D.

Eden Haiku: No, an authentic rodeo girl :)

Adams Rubble: whoops, I had the wrong idea where Edmonton was. Even further than Calgary

Adams Rubble: The things one learns in PaB

Adams Rubble: :)

Eden Haiku: Sheri D. Wilson. She's now Calgary Poet Laureate.

Adams Rubble: :)

Eden Haiku: So sweet and funny

 

A great Coursera poetry course

 

Adams Rubble: My annual poetry course started over the weekend and I do not have time for it

Eden Haiku: Oh!

Eden Haiku: Maybe if you make time by missing some town halls meetings?

Riddle Sideways: back

Eden Haiku: welcome back Riddle :)

Adams Rubble: It's a great course out of University of Pennsylvania on Coursera and I recommend it highly

Adams Rubble: taught by Al Filreis

Eden Haiku: Thanks, might check it

Adams Rubble: it is like a cult--people have been taking it every year for years

Adams Rubble:I think last year was the 8th

Eden Haiku: I say "might" because I'm so late in everything…

Eden Haiku: Really?

Adams Rubble: You do not have to be on time :)

Eden Haiku: Sounds very tempting!

Adams Rubble: They are working onEmily Dickinson and Walt Whitman this week

Adams Rubble: poetry is an undeveloped love of mine

Riddle Sideways: hmmm cult-people on Whitman

Eden Haiku: Took one course on "happiness" on Coursera but abandoned it after a few weeks. Was too obvious, but I still get reminders. Can't find how to deactivate...

Eden Haiku: Two great poets!

Adams Rubble: that's unfortunate. I have had good experience with the few courses I have taken

Eden Haiku: loves "Song of Myself'"

Adams Rubble: This poetry course is the best though

Adams Rubble: I still get lots of suggestions from Coursera for other courses though but I ignore them

Eden Haiku: My fault Adams. It's designed for young people. I already know that a better job, more money or a new car won't make me happy :))

Eden Haiku: You have taken it a previous year?

Adams Rubble: I took it very seriously about four years ago and have dabbled in it every year since

Adams Rubble: but I have had less and less time for it

 

—BELL--

 

Adams Rubble: they always welcome me back when I do join in :)

Adams Rubble: the instructor is a bit like Pema in that he can make everyone feel they are special

Adams Rubble: I don’t know where people like that get their energy

Eden Haiku: A link to Sheryl D. blog: https://sheridwilson.com/

Eden Haiku: Oops that's Sheri not Sheryl...

Adams Rubble: :)

Eden Haiku: That's great Adams!

Adams Rubble: this course is about only US poets though

Adams Rubble: no Canadians

Adams Rubble had not thought about that before

Riddle Sideways: thank you for link. like "Someday is not a day of the week"

Eden Haiku: That's ok. I probably read more American poets than Canadian poets :)

Eden Haiku: smiles at Riddle

Eden Haiku: We are "two solitudes" but poetry is a great bridge :)

Eden Haiku: Today is a gorgeous day, after days of rain and gray skies.

Adams Rubble: thank you for hosting today Eden and thanks for being here Riddle :)

Adams Rubble: glad you are having nice weather eden :)

Adams Rubble: I hope you both have wonderful days :)

Eden Haiku: Thanks for the twist and the conversation dear Adams :)

Riddle Sideways: yes, thank you

Eden Haiku: have a great Monday!@

Adams Rubble: bye for now :)

Adams Rubble: have to go forth and be productive....

Eden Haiku: Bfn

Adams Rubble: :)

Riddle Sideways: yes, have to go forth with recycling

Eden Haiku: Was so great hearing from your Burning Man trip Riddle, thanks!

Eden Haiku: happy Monday to yoou!

Riddle Sideways:tis a Happy Monday to All