2020.08.13 07:00 - Letting Go

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

    Riddle Sideways: Morning Adams
    Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
    Adams Rubble: I'm back watching my RL person have an epic visit to the dentist
    Adams Rubble: from watching
    Riddle Sideways: an epic movie to waqtch
    Riddle Sideways: *watch
    Adams Rubble: How are you?
    Riddle Sideways: mostly ok and you?
    Adams Rubble: I am good
    Riddle Sideways: did a silly thing yesterday and rode an inner tube down a fast little river
    Adams Rubble: I did not get a blog post doen today
    Adams Rubble: ohhhh. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    Riddle Sideways: bottom is a bit sore from the rocks
    Adams Rubble: ouch
    Riddle Sideways: many ouchs
    Adams Rubble: :(
    Riddle Sideways: is ok
    Riddle Sideways: ya still have the day to get to the blog
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Riddle Sideways: read that you finished the book
    Adams Rubble: Started reading about Meister Eckhard when i woke up in the middle of the night
    Adams Rubble: He said that whoever seeks God in a special way gets the way and misses God who lies hidden in it
    Adams Rubble: he was talking about Middle Ages stuff like whipping oneself and wearing sackcloth and ahses
    Adams Rubble: ashes
    Adams Rubble: but I think it speaks some to relying on a path
    Adams Rubble: as opposed to starting at the end
    Riddle Sideways: those who think the path is the important part
    Riddle Sideways: Or is starting at the end a path also?
    Adams Rubble: I think Pema's suggestion is that we do not rely on the path
    Riddle Sideways: well, it is hard to come up with one's own new unique path.
    Riddle Sideways: easier to follow somebody else's
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: Something else
    Adams Rubble: he said there are three approaches to begin
    Adams Rubble: one must be simple as God is simple
    Adams Rubble: actually he said the soul must be somple
    Adams Rubble: the soul must dwell above itself
    Adams Rubble: the soul must be detached from material things
    Riddle Sideways: oh! thought you meant Simple Minded,
    Adams Rubble: In yesterdays blog, I recounted that I used to be more simple
    Adams Rubble: funny how this works
    Riddle Sideways: yep
    Adams Rubble: simple as in uncluttered, without other motives
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: ok, so this Soul thing, that is so hard to define and harder to locate
    Riddle Sideways: is to dwell above itself
    Riddle Sideways: that needs some unwinding
    Adams Rubble: I would not have used that word myself because it has much baggage
    Adams Rubble: but I think I know what he is getting at
    Adams Rubble: it is the part of us that opens to spiritual things
    Adams Rubble: it is the mind but not the devil part :)
    Riddle Sideways: have already discussed that the Devil mind takes up so much room, that it could be pretty easy to spot the other part
    Riddle Sideways: and state that it is Above
    Adams Rubble: maybe we can think of it as the tamed mind
    Riddle Sideways: that would be nice
    Adams Rubble: removing all the chaos of the devil mind
    Riddle Sideways: visiting that stillness place
    Adams Rubble: I have never had the kind of experiences I once had with Christianity with Buddhism
    Adams Rubble: for me Buddhism is more celebrial
    Adams Rubble: I just realized that here this morning
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: great

    Riddle Asks a Question and we start to look at PaB early history from the above viewpoint

    Riddle Sideways: is it that you came to Buddhism as a student, to study it?
    Adams Rubble: I was started looking into Buddhism to understand Chinese sculpture :)
    Adams Rubble: then started SL and came looking to learn more and found PaB
    Adams Rubble: so I have studied Budhoism to understand the concepts underlying PaB
    Adams Rubble: I am a bit of an oddball :)
    Riddle Sideways: we all are
    Riddle Sideways: found a group of really intelligent folks with a great title of Ways of Knowing
    Adams Rubble: PaB was a real find
    Riddle Sideways: thought that would be a great place to be able to make the list of all the Ways of Knowing
    Riddle Sideways: just after joining, one of the members suggested we could try a different approach
    Riddle Sideways: and should venture into a different virtual world
    Riddle Sideways: PaB became much easier and yet harder too
    Riddle Sideways: resonated though
    Adams Rubble: I forget sometimes you were at the first version
    Adams Rubble: QUAK?
    Riddle Sideways: or was it QWAQ
    Adams Rubble: ahhh
    Riddle Sideways: little block Lego avatar
    Riddle Sideways: with your RL face photo on your head
    Riddle Sideways: that was strange by itself
    Adams Rubble pulls out pocket version of Chronicles; oh yes, QWAK
    Riddle Sideways: ok, thanks
    Adams Rubble: yes, it must have felt strange
    Adams Rubble: and no hiding one's identity :)
    Riddle Sideways: it was a world of very easy presentations, spreadsheets, powerpoints and Word docs
    Riddle Sideways: on the walls
    --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: I remember now that Stim liked those
    Riddle Sideways: It seemed that everyone there was a noted professor and expert in their field
    Riddle Sideways: each gave lectures in their turn
    Riddle Sideways: was so afraid it would be my turn next
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: I understand
    Adams Rubble: that was the celebral approach :)
    Riddle Sideways: yes, very
    Riddle Sideways: came into SL and it seemed everybody had trouble walking, dressing, communicating
    Riddle Sideways: All were beginners
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: and on the surface the exercises were simple
    Riddle Sideways: "Drop what you Have"
    Riddle Sideways: Answer "Who are You?", without listing what you Have and Do
    Adams Rubble: I think Drop what you have is the same as the soul must be simple as God is simple
    Adams Rubble: or similar
    Riddle Sideways: similar
    Riddle Sideways: no memorizing the names of people with 17 letters in them
    Riddle Sideways: just what they said
    Adams Rubble: like Nisargadatta
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: copies/pastes that into the pocket version of Google to check
    Adams Rubble loses points for showing off
    Riddle Sideways: sees self doing That
    Riddle Sideways: QWAK used Voice, so those names had to be pronounceded
    Riddle Sideways: that was a non-starter
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: fun to think it all through and yet just sit with a stillness
    Adams Rubble: It was very interesting to go over the early history of PaB looking at it from a different perspective
    Riddle Sideways: Those sessions that arrived at APAPB and all the twists on letters
    Riddle Sideways: was never sure if Pema arrived with them in hip pocket
    Riddle Sideways: or made them up on the spot
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: Pema was constantly changing directions on us
    Adams Rubble: challenging us in new ways
    Riddle Sideways: yes, loved that
    Adams Rubble: never allowed us to sit comfortably
    Riddle Sideways: just when ya thought ya saw a path ㋡
    Riddle Sideways: the Playing
    Riddle Sideways: the comfort of Being
    Riddle Sideways: even while trying to get up 3 steps, open the door to the tea house and get inside
    Riddle Sideways: that was the Hardest
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: I had practice before I found PaB
    Riddle Sideways: some might have thought my sessions outside in nature sitting of the log were more Natural
    Adams Rubble: it was nice to have both experiences
    Riddle Sideways: so many experiences
    Riddle Sideways: so much Playing
    Riddle Sideways: helping write the book
    Riddle Sideways: book(s)
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: well, need to go do some other experiences
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Riddle Sideways: finish building a bike rack
    Riddle Sideways: Play
    Adams Rubble: I hope you have a very good weekend
    Riddle Sideways: hope you do too
    Adams Rubble: be careful in those rivers
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡
    Adams Rubble: thanks for a nice session
    Adams Rubble: bye
    Adams Rubble: shhhh
    Riddle Sideways: by All

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    First there is a path, then there isn't, then there is. :)
    Posted 23:51, 20 Aug 2020
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