2020.12.08 07:00 - 40 year measurements and connections

The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

Riddle Sideways: Morning Adams
Riddle Sideways: Sorry to be late. Ye Olde modem needed the boot
Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: actually Ye Newie modem

Adams Rubble: I have a dentist appt on Thursday. They always seem to be on Thursdays
Riddle Sideways: getting so regular a need that should be done every Monday night
Adams Rubble: Could we meet Friday instead?
Riddle Sideways: ok
Riddle Sideways: big test, can that be remembered
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: if I send an email would that help?
Riddle Sideways: actually it would
Adams Rubble: OK
Riddle Sideways: thanks

Riddle Sideways: couple weeks ago was the forget it was Thursday and set alarm to get up on Friday
Adams Rubble: it doesn't take much to set one off of which day of week it is
Riddle Sideways: when all the days are almost the same

Adams Rubble: it rained on Saturday so did walk on Sunday.
Adams Rubble: now not sure if it is Monday or Tuesday
Riddle Sideways: garbage-recycling went out Monday
Riddle Sideways: that is the Big marker of the week
   --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: this chat seems to fit with your blog
Riddle Sideways: about measurements of time
Adams Rubble: I was just thinking of that. Learning to count time in 40 years increments
Adams Rubble: :)

     BTW - today is the 40th anniversary of Joh Lennon's death

Adams Rubble: maybe not so important if we know what day of week it is :)
Riddle Sideways: am 40 years in California
Adams Rubble: ohhhh
Riddle Sideways: wait, no
Riddle Sideways: 36
Riddle Sideways: maths don't fail me now!
Adams Rubble: getting there

Adams Rubble: when i was growing up it seemed like they had been on the farm forever
Adams Rubble: just 40 years
Riddle Sideways: the young moved around, but the old always were right there
Riddle Sideways: solid as grandpa rock
Adams Rubble: there is a book on Medieval life that illustrates spects using little illustrations found in margins of manuscripts
Adams Rubble: I was suprised when i saw it that so many of the farming methods went back to medieval times (and probably before)
Adams Rubble: methods mostly had not changed
Adams Rubble: the tractor replaced the plow horse
Adams Rubble: milking machines helped do more cows
Adams Rubble: minimual electric lighting in barn and house replace lanterns
Riddle Sideways: yet, there is an ever so slow turn to not plowing fields
Riddle Sideways: a new practice
Riddle Sideways: disc them instead
Riddle Sideways: not turn the soil upside down to such a depth
Adams Rubble: ohh, do not know about that. my grandfather plowed, then disc
Riddle Sideways: yep, always done that order
Riddle Sideways: probably still done that way in corn states
Riddle Sideways: not so much out here with the vegetables
Riddle Sideways: but you are right, not much changed from prehistoric times
   --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: to every season, turn turn turn
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: there are the chores to be done in that season
Adams Rubble: all of our agricultural metaphors
Riddle Sideways: the city dwellers forget their roots
Riddle Sideways: 'Roots'
Adams Rubble: and farmers forget that those city dwellers are their markets
Adams Rubble: as opposed to their enemy
Riddle Sideways: yet, they think that

Riddle Sideways: talking with sister that stills lives in dairy country, that there is no Market for milk anymore
Riddle Sideways: the city milk factories have no markets
Riddle Sideways: so won't take the milk
Riddle Sideways: no trucks come pick up the milk
Riddle Sideways: the Big dairy farm bought their own truck
Riddle Sideways: and have to get on phone to find any plant that will take the load
Riddle Sideways: hire somebody to drive it there
Riddle Sideways: but, the little farms are going out of business
Riddle Sideways: sell the cows for nothing
Adams Rubble: :(
Riddle Sideways: the Amish cheese factory has all the milk that they can process

Adams Rubble: there used to be so much infrastructure to move the milk
Riddle Sideways: yep
Adams Rubble: milk trains
Adams Rubble: making a daily run
Riddle Sideways: whole industries up and down the chain
Adams Rubble: idustrio farms
Adams Rubble: industrial
Riddle Sideways: from seed companies to cheese
Riddle Sideways: little local hometown had a seed company, a feed store, a milk company
Adams Rubble: now a Walmart?
Riddle Sideways: loved watching the cans come in, get dumped upside down and mixed
   --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: now a closed up shell of a big building
Riddle Sideways: all the factories and warehouses around the train tracks

Adams Rubble: our topic is how we are connected and what happens when the connections are broken
Riddle Sideways: thanks
Riddle Sideways: once were connected by the horse and wagon trails
Adams Rubble: empty factories in cities; empty stores in country
Riddle Sideways: the village marketplace
Adams Rubble: rich sucking out money from the economy
Riddle Sideways: the Walmart
Adams Rubble: moving jobs overseas
Adams Rubble: society starts to break down

Riddle Sideways: Now, stay home and let Amazon bring it to ya
Adams Rubble got an Amazon package during this session :)
Riddle Sideways: big cities have Prime trucks delivering
Riddle Sideways: out here in the country, the post office, UPS, FedX and DHL deliver
Riddle Sideways: funny, the last little package delivered was by a UPS guy driving his personal Tesla
Adams Rubble: :)

Riddle Sideways: Change is the only sure thing
Adams Rubble: YES
Riddle Sideways: but it is hard to see some things change
Adams Rubble: hard to let things go
Riddle Sideways: that old guy that worked so hard for so many years to bring us Goods
Riddle Sideways: retired, worn out. replaced
Adams Rubble raises hand
Riddle Sideways: ㋡
Riddle Sideways: At least there still are ... Wait there are none this pandemic year
Riddle Sideways: no professors going to large rooms of students
Riddle Sideways: no art museums letting people wander
   --BELL--
Adams Rubble: people grew vegetablles in their backyards this summer
Riddle Sideways: and baking sourdough bread
Adams Rubble: Opera houses let people watch operas for free on their websites
Riddle Sideways: crowds gathering in SL
Adams Rubble looks around
Riddle Sideways: a middle school play produced on Zoom and edit by the kid that was supposed to pull the curtains

Adams Rubble: there is much for us to do
Adams Rubble: this hour flew by
Riddle Sideways: so much to do, so little time
Riddle Sideways: need to go milk the cow
Adams Rubble: yes, don't think I'll get another 40 years
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: the grandchildren will carry the memories

Riddle Sideways: plant a tree that you won't harvest the fruit from
Riddle Sideways: but the grandchildren will
Riddle Sideways: what is was 40 years ago
Riddle Sideways: what is will be in 40 years
Adams Rubble: children working on their 40 years; grandcildren will have to wait :)

Riddle Sideways: flying cars and teleportation
Adams Rubble is thankful for my 40 years
Riddle Sideways: yes!
Adams Rubble: plus the other time
Adams Rubble: it did not matter what day of the week it was
Riddle Sideways: grateful for having seen the appearances that have gone by
Riddle Sideways: nope, those chores got done in their time

Adams Rubble: last night I learned about Jussi Bjorling
Adams Rubble: so much to learn
Adams Rubble: he was an opera singer popular in the early 1950s who influenced Pavorotti
Riddle Sideways: wow! thanks
Riddle Sideways: just looked it up
Riddle Sideways: on yet another tab to visit today
Adams Rubble: his music can be found on Youtube
Adams Rubble: yes, worth a listen. He became an alcholic and died way too young
Adams Rubble: in 1960
Adams Rubble: Television was an experiemnt that produced some wonderful early shows--lots of culture
Adams Rubble: and left us with some videos as evoidence

Adams Rubble: now i must go and get ready for our afternoon visit
Riddle Sideways: amazingly those tapes and film survived
Adams Rubble: yes it is
Riddle Sideways: ah, a visit comes
Riddle Sideways: thanks so much for your time
Adams Rubble: have a very good couple of days; see you Friday
Adams Rubble: thank you Riddle. Good luck with your modems
Riddle Sideways: ㋡
Riddle Sideways: by All
Adams Rubble: bye for now