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    Rather unnecessary for me to comment on these sessions... Love, Eliza


    2010.01.28 07:00 - A revolutionary act 

    Storm Nordwind: I have a book - actually in front of me now - that is a commentary on the Eight Verses,
    called "Eight Steps to Happiness". It has a wonderful picture of White Tara on the cover (!), though I don't
    know why as she is not referred to anywhere in the book!

    Gaya Ethaniel: Don't know much but think Tara helps with overcoming obstacles ... maybe that's why?
    Storm Nordwind: She is known as the compassionate mother of long life, and as the embodiment of the
    ultimate wisdom of all the Buddhas. But apart from that... :)

    WhiteTara.jpg"When others out of jealousy...
    Harm me or insult me...
    May I take defeat upon myself...
    And offer them the victory"

    Storm Nordwind: And I did just that. And the effect was miraculous.


    To be truly happy in this world is a revolutionary act because true happiness depends upon
    a revolution in ourselves. It is radical change of view that liberates us so that we know who we are most deeply and can acknowledge our enormous ability to love. We are liberated by the truth that every single one of us can take the time and pay attention. That is our birthright. Our own happiness can change history, and it does
    . - Sharon Salzberg, "Lovingkindness"



     2010.01.28 13:00 - Cliffs Nearby Watching the Sea 

    arabella Ella: well it is amazing how other stuff gets accentuated while one is silent
    arabella Ella: and how it seems to me to be a sort of cleansing somehow
    arabella Ella: yes purging ... cleansing ... like noticing the chaos and noise which is so superflous in life

    arabella Ella: and a bit of seeing places in the vicinity this morning too
    arabella Ella: meditation on some cliffs nearby watching the sea and the clouds making shade on the sea

    Wol as Arabella...

    Eliza Madrigal: Ara was telling us that you all meditated cliff top today?
    Wol Euler: indeed we did
    Wol Euler: with ice cream cones

    Arabella as Arabella... 

    arabella Ella: well i admit it was very difficult with a few 'temptations' along the day
    arabella Ella: like random strangers ... farmers ... during the walking meditation i did
    arabella Ella: they offered me peas
    arabella Ella: and i gladly accepted

    Calvino Rabeni: but the fluidity presents a freedom, and with that, choices
    Calvino Rabeni: and the choices invoke new realms of being and their challenges of awareness
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, Ara accepted the peas :)
    Calvino Rabeni: just simple openings of doors
    Eliza Madrigal: I don't think she broke silence in doing so, even if/though she spoke!
    Calvino Rabeni: and it didn't matter either, given the quality of her awareness continued in the way that was intended

     2010.01.29 07:00 - Night Winds, Day Dreams, and Serendipity 

    Eden Haiku: I'm deep in the question: what do I really need?
    Eden Haiku: Sorting out my suitcase... / I know carrying lots of stuff is out of fear of lacking something.
    Eliza Madrigal nods... fear of 'what if'
    Archmage Atlantis: Serendipity was my thought when you asked for a topic Eliza, ....., no doubt it relates to your topic, although how I wonder?
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm... "Serendipity is the effect by which one accidentally stumbles upon something fortunate, especially while looking for something entirely unrelated." (from wiki)
    Eden Haiku: Serendipity:I love the word. It is a bit like synchronicity is it?
    Archmage Atlantis: Perhaps "fear of lacking something" is in contrast with being open to the unexpected?

    Widget Whiteberry: I learned to write my dreams - when I recall them - as in first person, present tense. Then to consider that each aspect of a dream is a 'part-of-me.' / and if all I dream is part-of-me, then there are no scary 'others'

    Widget Whiteberry: no anything others

    Eden Haiku: But then, if I had not ordered a new laptop beacuse it rained last summer, I would never have stumble upon Sl (serendipity), never created Rrose (my twin), and never got to PaB(serendipity)

     2010.01.29 13:00 - An avatar with nine tails          

    arabella Ella: Eliza ... just cooked for nine avis :)
    arabella Ella: avis can be quite hungry too
    arabella Ella: cooked two types of pasta
    arabella Ella: then ice cream with maple syrup, helwa and marshmellows
    Eliza Madrigal: :) What is helwa, please?
    arabella Ella: but all the avis surrounding me seem to be satisfied
    Eliza Madrigal: That's wonderful :)
    arabella Ella: helwa is a sweet from the middle east with crushed sesame seed, sugar and almonds
    Eden Haiku: I can hear them clapping in the distance...
    arabella Ella: :)
    Qt Core: retreats in malta... food... not only for the soul ;-)
    arabella Ella: oh yes Qt ... food for the body and food for the soul ... also food for the heart

    Wol as Arabella...

    arabella Ella: yes, actually it did. It's beautiful here, very stark
    Eliza Madrigal: Stark?
    Eden Haiku: Lots of rocks and cliffs?
    Qt Core: was the wheater good ?
    arabella Ella: lacking in softness, shall we say?
    arabella Ella: very much so, eden.
    arabella Ella: crumbly yellow stone, very near the surface, not much soil
    arabella Ella: cypress and cactus and a strange feathery kind of bamboo
    Eden Haiku: was very impressed to read in the log that the Hypogeum is older than the Sphinx.
    arabella Ella: and almond trees in bloom!
    arabella Ella: it's great, I can recommend it here.
    Eden Haiku: Ah! that is a grace!

    Yakuzza as Arabella...

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zon... this is a most unusual session.... there are many playasbeings speaking through Ara ....
    Eden Haiku: Now it is Yakuzza being <channeled< by Ara...
    Zon Quar: what do the spirits have to say..
    Eden Haiku: Spirit of Yakuzza, we are listening...
    arabella Ella: it is facinating to meet the real people finally obviousy
    Widget Whiteberry muses on new definitions of multiple identities

    Eliza Madrigal: Do you feel peaceful Yakuzza?
    Eliza Madrigal: (aside from the keyboard wrestling)
    arabella Ella: not right now, but it was very peaceful before
    Eliza Madrigal: are you all peas-full too? giggles
    Storm Nordwind is very much in favor of "whorled peas"
    Bleu Oleander: :) good one!
    Eden Haiku: All together for 'whorled peas' Storm!!!
    Eliza Madrigal clasps hands with zon and bleu...sways... You know, we do look a little like the picture
    with the earth and the little children all around...
    arabella Ella: hi Ara back again
    Qt Core: quite the green approach too, 88% respurce saved that way! :-)
    arabella Ella: did you notice how Yaku has become so much more talkative?
    Eden Haiku: Oh yes, holding Qt and Ara hands...
    Eliza Madrigal smiles... yes, it must be switching to coffee from tea
    Zon Quar: arent we all little children..

    2010.01.30 07:00 - Contra Dancing of Guardians 

    sophia Placebo: Hello Riddle :)
    sophia Placebo: how are you ?
    Riddle Sideways: 85%
    sophia Placebo: brilliant ! even if it meant 85% not good , you still alive and hanging

    Widget Whiteberry: Contra dancing is a form that involves many people
    Widget Whiteberry: while there are only 8-10 different steps
    Widget Whiteberry: the combinations of steps can be anything
    Widget Whiteberry: so it gets quite complex
    Widget Whiteberry: in order for this to work
    Widget Whiteberry: to have long lines of people dancing together
    Widget Whiteberry: to form the pattern of the dance
    Widget Whiteberry: you need music to stay in sync

    Riddle Sideways: in your mind you think of the greatest addition to the topic, but find no opening to share :(
    Bertram Jacobus: i also experience that sometimes riddle - but isn´t for that the hint to let drop ? -
    Riddle Sideways: was watching synchonized swimming lst night (daugter) and finally saw the underwater
    speaker to sync them to the music
    sophia Placebo: i guess we dont have music per say , we like to stream our ideas sometime and/or keep them to ourselves, we go off topic or we miss the point cuz we are slow typers:)

    Eliza Madrigal: Bert, can you follow up on your 'chaos theory' thought?
    Bertram Jacobus: perhaps i may say that for me such a caller is not neccessairy ... hm - but as i said : accept all people´s likes and dislikes
    Widget Whiteberry: if we can learn to focus our group mind on a topic, our discussions will deepen
    Bertram Jacobus: it says to me eliza that all is linked with all and so ... also talks can be seen from one standpoint, with all the fitting elements and even seemingly not fitting ones ...
    Bertram Jacobus: for that, for example we already have the topic meetings ... (shall be no contradiction)
    Eliza Madrigal: So what looks at first chaotic can actually be seen from a wider angle as having a pattern...
    Bertram Jacobus: yes
    Bertram Jacobus: and make sense
    Bertram Jacobus: and even give a good feeling
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: when we play more with the elements as being(s) ... ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: ahhh.... !
    sophia Placebo: hmm
    Bertram Jacobus: you may see : the retreat was quite inspiring ... ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I see that :)))
    sophia Placebo: more with wiget in micro level , more with bert on macro level
    Bertram Jacobus: :-))
    Widget Whiteberry: ☆smiles☆
    Eliza Madrigal: hm, yes....
    Bertram Jacobus: lol . so nicely said sophia ! (even if i don´t totally undeerstand lol - can we ever?) ... ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: on a practical level, the email group, seems one thing we could benefit from using more.... to deepen conversations? like an underwater speaker?
    Widget Whiteberry: macro and micro are different views of the same phenomena
    sophia Placebo: exactly

    Riddle Sideways: all the same, but we just saw it from a different point of view - Bob Dylan

    2010.01.30 13:00 - Ink and Invocation 

    The INK!
    Ink uncaused and unaware suddenly appear beware.
    Found itself on the canvas slate, and started to create,
    By drawing a quill, to emptiness fill.

    And the first character was sketched,
    As the canvas was stretched.
    The play began, when the characters on the stage ran.
    If you trace the Ink, back to where do you sink?
    When INK comes out from the silent hide,
    Life becomes a slippery slope and ride.
    When INK in stillness and silence abide,
    The ebb and flow subside.

    SophiaSharon Larnia: the making more solid is something Ive been grappling with for many months... am just now coming to grips with what it means
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and found the poem to echo something I haven't been able to write on my own
    Calvino Rabeni: How is that, Sophia - what is the important sense of it for you?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it validates how i feel about words, thats theyre inadequate for explaining things that are the most important... in writing, too, i see a side of myself that I sometimes would rather not see / it forces self awareness, but it is also a mask, it doesnt tell the true picture, at one time

    Calvino Rabeni: @SSL, from earlier - the thing about language - whether written or live - is that it is an invocation, not just a description
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so Ive been thinking about silence, in the sense of thoughts are like clouds in a clear blue sky, layers and layers of clouds...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: invocation
    Calvino Rabeni: It is something to get comfortable with - about language
    Calvino Rabeni: the way it brings things into being
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats what im afraid of
    Calvino Rabeni: its creative aspect - this is the yang for the "yin" of language's descriptive ability

    2010.01.30 19:00 - Enlightenment, Now What? 

    SophiaSharon Larnia: wow nice aura Eliza Snapshot_096.jpg
    Eliza Madrigal giggles... looks like a soap bubble...
    Eliza Madrigal: wonder where I picked this up :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im enlightened now
    Eliza Madrigal: This is to keep us awake... rarified air
    SophiaSharon Larnia: now what??

    Calvino Rabeni: And the wisdom traditions always say - to give it away creates abundance
    Elwhitetara2.gifiza Madrigal: that taking on others' suffering is an 'act' which expands one's capacity to be generous...
    Calvino Rabeni: Airy-fairy, do you think?
    Eliza Madrigal: Nope :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not at all
    Calvino Rabeni: It takes a little courage, because as noted,it works at a community level so it feels hard to start it all alone
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps then the same thing works with "enlightenment"
    Calvino Rabeni: This makes sense to me :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) I think it does
    SophiaSharon Larnia: put that way it is a similiar energetic exchange
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes / And the possibility is it works even within oneself
    SophiaSharon Larnia: much courage, resting on trust
    Calvino Rabeni: Trust and abundance are a virtuous circle
    Calvino Rabeni: The opposite of the vicious variety
    Calvino Rabeni: Upward spiral


    2010.01.31 07:00 - Malta review: Wol 

    Wol Euler looks around and grins, remembering faces and voices

    Pema Pera: and yes, Wol, it does and does not make a difference, having met the person behind the avatar, in an odd way -- it is more a sense of enrichment
    Wol Euler nods.
    Pema Pera: but you can also go back to the sense of meeting the avatar before meeting the RL typist
    Pema Pera: an interesting way of double viewing, double experiencing, a kind of degree of freedom
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: it enriches one's knowledge of the person, but doesn't really change it (I found, others may disagree) because we were all very much the people that we present here



    doug Sosa: There is gain and loss. the extraordinay richness of the person in the flesh, and the loss of the avatar, not as avatar but as promise as to who might be behind. A little like the guy behind the curtain in OZ.
    Wol Euler: mmhmm / though he is interesting in and of himself, too
    Wol Euler: but there is a sense of narrowing of possibilities, yes
    Wol Euler: like finally opening Schroedinger's box and looking at the cat
    Pema Pera: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: But the guy behind the curtain was hiding from himself, as much as he was being
    doug Sosa: nice.

    Wol Euler: it's odd, coming to describe it we didn't really *do* very much at all
    Wol Euler: but my impression is that the days were full.
    Wol Euler: I felt that I'd been away far longer than six days
    Wol Euler: time was stretched in some odd ways during the retreat

    Wol Euler: it was very quiet there, very little traffic, only agricultural noises of machinery and dogs
    Pema Pera: yes, Arabella had found a real gem of a place for us to meet
    Wol Euler: the valley was a few jhundred metres across and maybe 2km long, leading westwards to the sea
    Widget Whiteberry amuses herself with the changing pattern we create round the pond
    Wol Euler: so quiet that we could hear conversation from the other ridge, and sounds from the open end
    Wol Euler: it was very windy, but not especially cold. The shutters and doors rattled
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    arabella Ella: the wind played at being too
    Wol Euler: we took blankets from the hotel, and sat in a circle wrapped up like cocooned caterpillars
    Widget Whiteberry: Wol this is a lovely narrative
    Wol Euler: much like being here, actually
    Archmage Atlantis: For me, it was odd not to have at least some of you folks here ,
    Wol Euler: people very quickly found favourite positions
    Wol Euler: and I noticed that when we went to Ara's house for dinner on Friday night, people took roughly the same position there that they had taken at the farmhouse

    Wol Euler thinks.

    That was something of a peak in the retreat, the silent day seemed to me to cement the group together: we were much more of an "us" after that, I felt.

    2010.01.31 08:00 - Guardian Session: San Francisco ReTweet 

    Pema Pera: the challenge will be perhaps to refrain from chit chat . . . MUCH harder than not speaking at all ! / like dieting being harder than giving up (smoking, drinking, etc)
    Fael Illyar: can you define what is chit chat? :)
    Pema Pera: no
    Wol Euler: but you know it when you feel yourself about to say it :)
    Wol Euler: at least, I learned that during the silent day.
    Pema Pera: but we can collectively experiment with meaningful speech
    Wol Euler: I was surprised and upset how much of what I felt like saying was pure "filler"
    Pema Pera: learning to find your own inner compass
    Maxine Walden: perhaps chit chat in this context might be to become swept up in the noise of the surrounding everyday city
    Pema Pera: one option: think for two seconds before saying the sentence that was on the tip of your tongue
    Wol Euler nods.
    Pema Pera: like typing here -- deciding whether to hit return
    Pema Pera: or just let it go
    Maxine Walden: rather than hold space for inner discourse to emerge
    Pema Pera visualizing a group of PaBers in a cafe, each with a beermat with "return" printed on it
    Wol Euler: oh, that's an idea. Give out sentence tokens :) 10 per day
    Wol Euler: to speak a sentence, you have to give up a token.
    Pema Pera: if you go over your quota, you buy a round
    Wol Euler: and then be silent
    Maxine Walden: :))
    Widget Whiteberry: perhaps should be a word token rather than a sentence token
    Widget Whiteberry: kind of like twitter
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm both dieting and chit chat have the serious problem of when to keep month shut


     2010.01.31 13:00 - Malta retreat, Pema's remembrances     

    Pema Pera: Malta itself was a big surprise: for such a small island nation, the variety was stunning
    Pema Pera: within an area of roughly ten by twenty miles there was such a variety in cultural and natural history both
    Pema Pera: you could walk a few hundred feet and find yourself in a different micro climate
    Pema Pera: through the combination of hills and different soil and different wind patterns
    Pema Pera: the visit to the hypogeum the first afternoon (while Wol was stuck in the snow) was also an early highlight: this is an underground place, constructed well over five thousand years ago, before pyramids and Stonehenge : the oldest underground temple
    Pema Pera: built as if it was a normal building: with pillars and windows and a roof, all made to like like that, but carved into the walls of a natural labyrinth

    Pema Pera: perhaps the most striking aspect of all that I learned was the sense of multiple aspects of reality
    Pema Pera: how to put it into words . . . .
    Pema Pera: the sense of being fully present within the story of daily life -- and totally accepting that aspect of what is real, and at the same time the sense of Being which transcends all stories, all realms, all that appears, and to find ways to acknowledge and appreciate both sides, simultaneously, without any kind of worry or hope or fear or expectation : very luxuriously, really :-)

    Bleu Oleander: how is the sense of Being different from the story of daily life?
    Pema Pera: within daily life we feel we have many needs, many plans and prospects and worries, and all that becomes transparent, so the speak, in the Light of Being
    Pema Pera: the appearances are still there, but one doesn't feel bound by them to the usual degree
    Bleu Oleander: different layers of being?
    Pema Pera: different angles, yes, of what is the same thing ultimately
    Maxine Walden: does being present in every moment of daily life, being really present there, does that seem to link with Being?
    Pema Pera: in the world but not of the world -- in Christianity
    Pema Pera: the two truths -- in Buddhism
    Pema Pera: yes, that is a natural aspect of it, Maxine
    Pema Pera: both a reflection of it, and a kind of portal into it

    Pema Pera: another great experience was our walk through the Silent City at the end of the Silent Day
    Pema Pera: another treat by Arabella

    Pema Pera: the main point is to see what we are already doing: closing ourselves off every moment -- just relaxing that tendency is enough
    Eos Amaterasu: giving in to the confidence of Being, holding your confidence in its hand
    Pema Pera: !
    Maxine Walden: the quiet non-arrogant confidence of Being

    Pema Pera: the only way to invite that kind of direct insight is to open up for it, deemphasizing our usual own preoccupations and chatter -- we can't reach or grasp it
    Lia Rikugun: the questioning is important for this
    Lia Rikugun: questioning as a kind of path as eos said
    Pema Pera: questioning how we keep obstructing our own insight, yes
    Pema Pera: btw, one aspect of the retreat was similar to what happened in the previous two RL PaB retreats: that after a while everybody tended to have a kind of silly smile on their face, happiness without a reason; Mick was especially good at this, radiant really :-)
    Wol Euler nods.

    Pema Pera: so each day we already were invited to intregrate practice and daily life -- yes
    Lia Rikugun: (hopefully)
    Eos Amaterasu: keep that smile in the daily life activities
    Pema Pera: insofar as daily life is drinking wine with good friends in ancient South European settings
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Wol Euler grins.
    Lia Rikugun: hehe
    Maxine Walden: ...bringing a smile of its own, the wine (!)
    Pema Pera: and listening to Arabella's contagious laughter
    Maxine Walden: amidst such wonderful surroundings
    Lia Rikugun: yes!
    Pema Pera: while she was telling us all "you are so stupid!!!"
    arabella Ella giggles ...
    Eos Amaterasu: and Maltese melodic speech
    Pema Pera: yes!!
    arabella Ella: oh yes the different accents each of us had!
    Eos Amaterasu: interacting with the people providing us support of varous kinds
    Maxine Walden: ah, what wonderful lyrical images...

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