by Adams Rubble
2010.05.01 01:00 - Diamonds In The Rough
Awareness and Change
Yakuzza Lethecus: i am not worse off then many other humans
Yakuzza Lethecus: in fact we are in the western world on the bright side
Wol Euler: you have the advantage that you have become aware of these things in yourself, so you have the chance to change them.
Darren Islar: are we?
Wol Euler: and by changing them, improve the world too
Darren Islar: right Wol
Worry
Gaya Ethaniel: You are perfect as you are maybe Satre? Don't worry, be happy :)
Gaya Ethaniel: In general, I worry less these days because it's painful to worry ...
Appreciation
Mickorod Renard: I think play as being comes as a package,,it also includes for me an appreciating part,,rather than thought time for regrets
Later…
Pema Pera: and yet we also have the freedom to see ourselves as not-only creatures, as Being for example, without a need for anything, but with the ability to appreciate everything
2010.05.01 19:00 - Welcoming Lucinda
River of Energy
Paradise Tennant: there is a poem by rumi where he talks of our soul being a river within us ..like a current of energy
Pumpkins
Paradise Tennant: yes was listening to a great talk by gil fronsdal ..today while cleaning he likened us to pumpkins
Lucinda Lavender: ?
Paradise Tennant: we just need to feel the vine on our heads to know we are all one plant
Lucinda Lavender: he he!
Lucinda Lavender: and when some are concentrating on something...we might just pick up on it...
2010.05.02 01:00 - Meditatiegroep
Twinkling in the Eyes
Bertram Jacobus: I simply experience the joy of coming together and the pain of being divorced. so my idea is that when all is joined ( = enlightenment ? ) - joy also could be all including, "simply an attribute" - is that understandable ?
Liza Deischer: sure
Bertram Jacobus: great !
Liza Deischer: well if I look at teachers, I do see happy faces
Liza Deischer: a twinkling in their eyes
Liza Deischer: but when they are concentrating, they look pretty serious :-)
Liza Deischer: so, that is what I notice
Liza Deischer: and being connected is giving some feeling of fulness I guess
Liza Deischer: but that is mine little mind looking at it ;-)
2010.05.02 07:00 - Sleeping though Playing
Being Claus
stevenaia Michinaga: then every April 1st, our anniversary, the little Being Claus comes buy and deliversthe accumilated wealth and joy of the years work to our little group, I think I am getting off track here
2010.05.02 13:00 - Theme session: San Francisco retreat thoughts
Starting
at the end
Bleu Oleander: also SFers, could you explain a little further "starting at the end"?
Wol Euler: awwwww <3
Eliza Madrigal: I was a bit surprised by that... it heightened my awarenss of our connections
Pema Pera: where to start, Bleu, in explaining :-)
Eos Amaterasu: That was one question, how to start at the end in any situation, and in meeting people
Eos Amaterasu: What does that mean?
Bleu Oleander: what is meant by "end"
Eliza Madrigal thinks of Eos's report line 'nothing to drop'
Eliza Madrigal: or rather already dropped..
Eos Amaterasu: Not too far from "what does PaB mean", how do we do Pab (here in SL, in Rl, etc)
--BELL--
Pema Pera: one aspect is that we can't reach what we really are, 'cause we already are what we are -- trying to become a better person or reaching for realization or enlightenment can easily miss the mark, "paint a sun on a closed window" rather than opening the window to the sun that already is out there, shining
Eos Amaterasu: Starting at the end can also come from being open to not knowing, not knowing how to cope
Eos Amaterasu: so that there's a space open
2010.05.02 19:00 - The "language thing" again :)
Communication
Calvino Rabeni: For instance, it could help to stop assuming that language does the job of communication
Mitzi Mimistrobell: ... We can get into that middle ground in various ways ... one being slow and thoughtful discussion of the subtle shades of meaning certain words may have for each of us.
Mitzi Mimistrobell: Yes Calvino, that's an important starting point. Perhaps a requrement.
Calvino Rabeni: Ok, who does the job of communication then? Not language. It is You and Me
Calvino Rabeni: And the world we are in
Calvino Rabeni: Secondly, communication is not about shoving meaning as messages through a small pipe
Calvino Rabeni: :))
Calvino Rabeni: Thirdly, knowledge is not something that is created by information transmitted or received
Mitzi Mimistrobell: And there are hidden assumtions in these phrases - one is that we assume the meaning of the word "communication."
2010.05.03 01:00 - No one here
2010.05.03 07:00 - What are we the rest of the time?
Systematic Pausing
Eden Haiku: I did as Eos who puts an alarm on his iPhone. I put one on my iPod Touch.
Storm Nordwind: Ah! And how did it go?
Eden Haiku: For every 15 minutes Saturday (that was Saturday rather).
Eden Haiku: I had many chores to do, as I had not been able to do much for days...so I was doing house chores, laundry, things like that.
Eden Haiku: Stopping every 15 minutes for at least 9 seconds, sometimes much more
Eden Haiku: I had not done that so systematically before. I did it for about 12 hours.
Storm Nordwind: And how did it feel?
Eden Haiku: Incredibly comforting: like there was a thread throughout times and I could "recall" that silent place as soon as I stopped.
2010.05.03 13:00 – Peering through the Smoke
Thinking/Doing
Mickorod Renard: I had a nice walk in a huge garden today,,and stopped a few times for some quick meditational time outs
LovesChocolate Macpherson: i know...i'm a neurotic doer
Mickorod Renard: lol,,so am i
Agatha Macbeth: Ha me too!
LovesChocolate Macpherson: i enjoy meditating on the still pond that lies deep inside me
Mickorod Renard: and if i am not doing, i am going crazy thinking
Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
LovesChocolate Macpherson: oh yes, doing and thinking
Mickorod Renard: needs time to think of nothing,,or at least think of what is around me
Agatha Macbeth: Actuall, I find thinking of nothing bloody hard
Agatha Macbeth: +y
LovesChocolate Macpherson: it's amazing what you see when you step back and look eh?
Pema leaves us with a Sufi Song:
Laughing at the word two :
Only That Illumined One
Who keeps seducing the formless into form
Had the charm to win my heart
Only a Perfect One
Who is always laughing at the word Two
Can make you know
Of
Love
(The Gift - Poems by Hafiz the Great Sufi Master, translated by Daniel Ladinsky)
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