2017.07.03 07:00 - Primal fear, primal blessing

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.

    [Took me more than one hour to add different colors so readers could follow the many threads of the conversation, but lost the connection as I was saving, all colors vanished into thin air...Have a copy on my computer, if I have time amnd patience will do it again later).

     A defunct Alma Mater

     

    Eden Haiku: Hey!
    Adams Rubble: Hello Eden :)
    Adams Rubble: where should we sit?
    Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle :)
    Eden Haiku: Finally connected to the new network, phew!
    Riddle Sideways: hello, where shall the sitting be done?
    Eden Haiku: Good morning Adams and Riddle :)
    Adams Rubble: Belated Happy Canada Day


    --BELL--


    Adams Rubble is hoping Trump does not try to name the 50 states tomorrow
    Riddle Sideways: yes, holiday weekend
    Riddle Sideways: can guess the ones he would not say :)
    Adams Rubble: New York, Texas, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Pittsbugh...
    Adams Rubble: poor Justin :(
    Eden Haiku: We do not celebrate Canada Day at home. Many Quebecers don't, Canada's political purpose from 1867 is to assimilate French Canadians. It’s complicated :)
    Adams Rubble: ouch
    Eden Haiku: Sensitive topic even within families :)
    Riddle Sideways: relationships are complicated
    Adams Rubble: people in US do not know much about Canada
    Adams Rubble: except for Niagara Falls
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    Adams Rubble: when did Canada become a nation apart from Britain?
    Eden Haiku: Went to the rock this morning Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: oh great!
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: had rock missed you?
    Eden Haiku: Confederation is from 1867 Adams, but our constitution was brought back here in 1982. And without the signature of Quebec...
    Eden Haiku: The Queen is still on our money, coins, post stamps...
    Eden Haiku: I like her hats though and she is a charming old lady :)
    Adams Rubble: we get to see Canadian coins show up in our change all the time :)
    Adams Rubble: Why is george washington wearing a hat....Ohhhhhhhh
    Eden Haiku: I felt rock's heart leap pout of joy when I first went, on Saturday :)
    Eden Haiku: out of joy, nor pout :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Riddle Sideways: welcome, Adael
    Eden Haiku: hello Adael sweet heart :)
    [the being on Adams' shoulder had said it was hot and humid in New Jersey]
    Eden Haiku: Sorry to hear. You should go to Uppsala as on Adams t-shirt, the weather must be cool up there :)
    Eden Haiku: It's one of the oldest colleges in the world isn'it?
    Adams Rubble: yes cool there but different sweatshirt :)
    Adams Rubble: my sweatshirt is the Upsala College in NJ that went defunct
    Adams Rubble: :(
    Eden Haiku: Ah, I see... What happened to the NJ one?
    Adams Rubble: went bankrupt
    Eden Haiku: Sad...
    Eden Haiku: Did you study there yourself?
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Adams Rubble: although it went defunct before I was rezzed--that is a riddle
    Eden Haiku: It’s always hard to see things dissapear...
    Adams Rubble: yes some feel like orphans
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm, never thought of it like that
    Eden Haiku: Met a three months old baby from London on my morning walk :)


    --BELL--


    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: young traveler
    Eden Haiku: Traveling in the arms of his great-aunt.
    Riddle Sideways: well, Adael, was replying to Adams' Alumata disappearing and no reunions to go to, but maybe
    Adams Rubble: they still have reunions :)
    Eden Haiku: They do?
    Adams Rubble: yes, some alumni
    Adams Rubble: down the shore
    Riddle Sideways: on the site of the defunct buildings ... now strip malls
    Eden Haiku: True, they can keep the spirit alive, as we do at PaB:)
    Adams Rubble spouts a Jersey phrase
    Adams Rubble: the academic part of the old campus was taken over by the East Orange High School; the residential and library was torn down for a housing development
    Eden Haiku: Sad...
    Adams Rubble: It helps when one has gone to other schools that are thriving
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: not all your degrees in one basket
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Adams Rubble: hmm, not all your course notebooks in one basket?
    Eden Haiku: smiles
    Adams Rubble: do people still use course notebooks?
    Riddle Sideways: stored on old computers
    Eden Haiku: Saw my first deer of the season yesterday. She says hello :)
    Riddle Sideways: that don't boot naymore
    Adams Rubble: wow, the first
    Riddle Sideways: hi dear
    Riddle Sideways: welcome to the country
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Eden Haiku: We have been in the country house for just a few days, so we were happy to see our offering of carrots and apples pleased her.
    Adams Rubble: we are overrun by deer
    Eden Haiku: They eat your gardens?
    Adams Rubble: yes and everyone elses
    Adams Rubble: have to be careful not to hit them when bicycling
    Riddle Sideways: ouch
    Eden Haiku: Grass and trees here, not many gardens. But those who have do complain about the deer...

     

    Adael shows up

     

    [Adael said You may fire when you are ready, Gridley! before I started reacording his precious words]

    [07:26] Adael: from the Spanish-American war

    [07:26] Adael: in the Phillipines

    Adams Rubble: :) Adael
    Adams Rubble giggles
    Eden Haiku: is wondering if Adael is one of the 72 angels of the kabbala...
    [Checked later: no. it isn'it]
    Adams Rubble: strict gun laws in our state
    Riddle Sideways: Adael, what TV show is that quote from?
    Eden Haiku: No hunting allowed in this area :)
    Riddle Sideways: can picture it, but not name it
    Eden Haiku: Come on Adael!
    Riddle Sideways: giggles
    Eden Haiku: Adael is talking gibberish
    [Didn't record that phrase...]
    Eden Haiku: speaking gibberish
    Riddle Sideways: typing gibberish
    Adams Rubble: http://www.historynet.com/you-may-fire-when-you-are-ready-gridley-januaryfebruary-98-american-history-feature.htm

    [07:28] Adael: Battle of Manilla

    [07:28] Eden Haiku: Ah!

    [07:28] Adael: American imperialists

    07:28] Adael: also useful to start fireworks tomorrow 

    Eden Haiku: Ah!
    Eden Haiku: Was thinking how Pema wanted to create a kind of neighborhood cafe when he created PaB...
    Adams Rubble: yes for scientists to gather and discuss


    --BELL--


    Adams Rubble: Pema said to Storm--if you build it they will come
    Adams Rubble: :)

    [07:30] Adael: Love this PaB stuff!

     

    Adams Rubble:the Art Historians came instead :)
    Riddle Sideways: the WoK (QWAQ) meeting area was a large common room with personal "offices"/doors around the perimeter.
    Adams Rubble missed QWAQ
    Eden Haiku: Just got this interesting message: Second Life: You decline 'Step back into the past with Designing Worlds' ( Sund (170,220,1995) ) from Messages from The Primgraph.
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Eden Haiku: heard about QWAQ, never been there though.

    Which lifetime? 


    Eden Haiku: What is our oldest memory of this lifetime?
    Riddle Sideways: and the astronomical society (sorry, forget the name) meeting area was sofas and coffee table
    Riddle Sideways: which lifetime?
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: ooooooo, Adael ...
    Eden Haiku: Good question Riddle:)
    Adams Rubble: my oldest memory in my lifetime is visiting the Sistine Chapel
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Eden Haiku: Really Adams? I guess you are joking :)
    Adams Rubble: nope
    Adams Rubble:It was on my rezz day
    Eden Haiku: Ah, Adams' lifetime, interesting!
    Adams Rubble: November 13, 2007
    Adams Rubble: If you want the oldest memory in my RL person’s lifetime it was at 6 months old
    Eden Haiku: I remember yurts in a snowy area, not sure if it was on rezz day though
    Eden Haiku: Listening to 6 months old RL avatar :)
    Adams Rubble: an apartment burned down next to the house
    Eden Haiku: Oh!
    Adams Rubble: the rl person remembers mother picking up the baby and carrying over to a window and looking out
    Eden Haiku: Oh wow!
    Adams Rubble: the baby sensed something different in the mother
    Eden Haiku: My 1st memory is also about fire...
    Riddle Sideways: remembering a stone path, bamboo fence and very small bridge... too hard to walk over
    Eden Haiku: Did the baby feel the fear?
    Adams Rubble: then they went outside and the baby remembers the red of the fire engines, lights blinking and hoses all over the street
    Eden Haiku: Wow!
    Adams Rubble: mother said it was at six months
    Eden Haiku: Your memory seems more peaceful Riddle? Was it?
    Adams Rubble: probbaly the fear, not sure
    Adams Rubble: whoops, rl interruprion. will be back
    Eden Haiku: Ok
    Eden Haiku: You were a toddler Riddle? little legs?
    Riddle Sideways: also RL phone
    Eden Haiku: Ok
    Riddle Sideways: no, was SL
    Eden Haiku: Ah!
    Eden Haiku: I still have trouble to walk in SL :)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Eden Haiku: Just going up the stairs up to the gallery is a big challenge for Eden :)
    Riddle Sideways: back. yes... stood at rez spot trying to get on the walking part of the bridge


    --BELL--


    Riddle Sideways: remember giving up and walking through bushes, stream, etc.
    Eden Haiku: My 1st RL memory is staring into the fire in the woodstove, after I dropped my pacifier. Was about 11 months old. I remember the colors of the fire: red and yellow and green and blue. Many colors. I was in the arms of my godfather.
    Adams Rubble: back, reading
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: both memories involve fire
    Eden Haiku: Weird isn'it?
    Adams Rubble: fire is a primal fear
    Adams Rubble: and a primal blessing

     

    Sweat lodge’s memories of prehistoric times


    Eden Haiku: Looking at the fire burning in the middle in the stones circle behind us
    Riddle Sideways: and fascination to young ones
    Eden Haiku: Primal fear, primal belssing, how true
    Eden Haiku: Did a sweat lodge a few summers ago.
    Riddle Sideways:not done sweat lodge for sooo many years
    Eden Haiku: When we got into the lodge, the 22 of us. And they shut the door...
    Eden Haiku: It was sooo dark and the embers were so red...
    Eden Haiku: The stones in the middle, glowing
    Eden Haiku: I felt like in prehistoric times
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Eden Haiku: Primal fear, primal blessing as Adams said

     

    Where we learn about Adams Rubble's ancestry


    Adams Rubble: My uncle Barney Rubble remembers prehistoric times :)
    Riddle Sideways: giggles
    Eden Haiku: ???
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: It was a TV show in US long ago
    Adams Rubble: The Flintstones
    Adams Rubble: My Unlce Barney was Fred Frlintstone's best friend
    Eden Haiku: Oh the Flinstones. They were called "Les Pierrafeu" here :) I know them. They didn’t translate the jokes I guess
    Riddle Sideways: to think that it has been so many years waiting for this reference to come up
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Eden Haiku: The Flintstones :)
    Adams Rubble:yes, I have been quiet about my origins :)
    Eden Haiku: Flintstones
    Riddle Sideways: the Rubbles
    Adams Rubble: Aunt Betty
    Adams Rubble: Cousin Bam Bam
    Eden Haiku: A mystery has been solved today. Adams’ name has prehistoric overtones :)
    Eden Haiku: Cousin Bam Bam was the cute baby?
    Riddle Sideways: the baby with the big club
    Adams Rubble: you may be thinking of the Flintstone baby
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes :)
    Adams Rubble: Pebbles Flintstone


    --BELL--

    07:59] Adael: Yes, that, and a big juicy hamburger to go with. Yum!


    Adams Rubble: Today Upsala College and the Flintstones entered into the PaB logs (well once Eden postes)
    Adams Rubble: Upsala
    Riddle Sideways: tracing your family name back to the town of Bedrock
    Adams Rubble: How did Barney Rubble translate into French?
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    Eden Haiku: Can't remember.
    Adams Rubble: not that the NJ Upsala has just one "p" and the accent is on the second syllable
    Eden Haiku: I do the remember the actor who was doubling the character though.
    Adams Rubble: unlike Uppsala University
    Eden Haiku: Famous French-Canadian actors from TV were doing the translations
    Riddle Sideways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A305EYEQzEo
    Eden Haiku: Uppsala University. Would love to visit, very old.

    [08:03] Adael: Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. -Carl Jung

     

    Where Eden feels like she grew up in Adams’s and Riddle’s neighborhood even though they didn’t watch the Flintstones in the same language


    Eden Haiku: Be warned Adael, I'm recording you :)
    Adams Rubblewipes a tear from her eye
    Riddle Sideways: that would be good, logs does not usually carry Adael
    Eden Haiku: patting Adams on her back
    Eden Haiku: I know, I have to copy directly from my screen :)
    Adams Rubble: Arthur Laroche=Barney Rubble
    [hint hint as an afterhought: Laroche translates "Stone" which is to say French ancestry of Adams is Adams Stone (stoned?) hehe]
    Eden Haiku: She's the wisest of us all,  this Adael :)[Did not record that sentence from Adael, it’s lost forever now...]
    Eden Haiku: Arthur Laroche, yes!!!!
    Adams Rubble: hmm Adams Laroche
    Eden Haiku: I think Paul Berval was Flintstone and Arthur Laroche was... asking my companion, wondering if he will remember... He finds the question weird...
    Adams Rubble: Claude Michaud
    Eden Haiku: His brain cells are still a bit sleepy...
    Eden Haiku: Claude Michaud yes! Wow, Adams, thanks to the Internet, I have the feeling we grew up todether :)
    Riddle Sideways: ha
    Riddle Sideways: and Bertha Laroche
    Eden Haiku: Béatrice Picard!
    [Was wrong, Monique Miller was playing Betty (Bertha), Béatrice Picard was playing Delima’s mother ( Wilma's mother) ]
    Riddle Sideways: Arthur and Bertha
    Eden Haiku: She's still acting, an old lady now
    Eden Haiku: Was Bertha Flintsone's wife?
    Riddle Sideways: Barney's
    Eden Haiku: Ah...
    Eden Haiku: It’s, 11h11 here :)
    Riddle Sideways: Thelma
    [Looking up the Pierrefeu Wikipedia, I don’t see any Thelma, maybe Riddle meant Wilma...]
    Adams Rubble: Arthur Laroche's
    Eden Haiku: Thelma
    Riddle Sideways: hard chat to follow
    Adams Rubble: thank you both for the discussion this morning
    Eden Haiku: Thanks Adael and Adams :)
    Adams Rubble: hehe, yes Riddle
    Eden Haiku: Yes :)
    Adams Rubble: good luck readers :)\
    Eden Haiku: Thank you Riddle, have a nice day both!
    Riddle Sideways: thanks and have your best
    Eden Haiku: And good luck readers yes :)
    Adams Rubble: bye bye and happy day
    Eden Haiku: Bye bye!
    Riddle Sideways: by all

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