2017.07.03 07:00 - Primal fear, primal blessing

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.

    Adams with Adael on her Adams with Adael on her right shoulder, Eden. Riddle.jpg

    Adael on Adams' right shoulder, Adams Rubble, Eden Haiku and Riddle Sideways

     A defunct Alma Mater

     

    Eden Haiku: Hey!
    Adams Rubble: Hello Eden :)
    Adams Rubble: where should we sit?
    Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle :)
    Eden Haiku: Finally connected to the new network, phew!
    Riddle Sideways: hello, where shall the sitting be done?
    Eden Haiku: Good morning Adams and Riddle :)
    Adams Rubble: Belated Happy Canada Day


    --BELL--


    Adams Rubble is hoping Trump does not try to name the 50 states tomorrow
    Riddle Sideways: yes, holiday weekend
    Riddle Sideways: can guess the ones he would not say :)
    Adams Rubble: New York, Texas, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Pittsbugh...
    Adams Rubble: poor Justin :(
    Eden Haiku: We do not celebrate Canada Day at home. Many Quebecers don't, Canada's political purpose from 1867 is to assimilate French Canadians. It’s complicated :)
    Adams Rubble: ouch
    Eden Haiku: Sensitive topic even within families :)
    Riddle Sideways: relationships are complicated
    Adams Rubble: people in US do not know much about Canada
    Adams Rubble: except for Niagara Falls
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    Adams Rubble: when did Canada become a nation apart from Britain?
    Eden Haiku: Went to the rock this morning Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: oh great!
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: had rock missed you?
    Eden Haiku: Confederation is from 1867 Adams, but our constitution was brought back here in 1982. And without the signature of Quebec...
    Eden Haiku: The Queen is still on our money, coins, post stamps...
    Eden Haiku: I like her hats though and she is a charming old lady :)
    Adams Rubble: we get to see Canadian coins show up in our change all the time :)
    Adams Rubble: Why is george washington wearing a hat....Ohhhhhhhh
    Eden Haiku: I felt rock's heart leap pout of joy when I first went, on Saturday :)
    Eden Haiku: out of joy, nor pout :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Riddle Sideways: welcome, Adael
    Eden Haiku: hello Adael sweet heart :)
    [the being on Adams' shoulder had said it was hot and humid in New Jersey]
    Eden Haiku: Sorry to hear. You should go to Uppsala as on Adams t-shirt, the weather must be cool up there :)
    Eden Haiku: It's one of the oldest colleges in the world isn'it?
    Adams Rubble: yes cool there but different sweatshirt :)
    Adams Rubble: my sweatshirt is the Upsala College in NJ that went defunct

    Adams in Upsala College sweatshirt.jpg

    Adams in Upsala College of New Jersey sweatshirt

    Adams Rubble: :(
    Eden Haiku: Ah, I see... What happened to the NJ one?
    Adams Rubble: went bankrupt
    Eden Haiku: Sad...
    Eden Haiku: Did you study there yourself?
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Adams Rubble: although it went defunct before I was rezzed--that is a riddle
    Eden Haiku: It’s always hard to see things dissapear...
    Adams Rubble: yes some feel like orphans
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm, never thought of it like that
    Eden Haiku: Met a three months old baby from London on my morning walk :)


    --BELL--


    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: young traveler
    Eden Haiku: Traveling in the arms of his great-aunt.
    Riddle Sideways: well, Adael, was replying to Adams' Alumata disappearing and no reunions to go to, but maybe
    Adams Rubble: they still have reunions :)
    Eden Haiku: They do?
    Adams Rubble: yes, some alumni
    Adams Rubble: down the shore
    Riddle Sideways: on the site of the defunct buildings ... now strip malls
    Eden Haiku: True, they can keep the spirit alive, as we do at PaB:)
    Adams Rubble spouts a Jersey phrase
    Adams Rubble: the academic part of the old campus was taken over by the East Orange High School; the residential and library was torn down for a housing development
    Eden Haiku: Sad...
    Adams Rubble: It helps when one has gone to other schools that are thriving
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: not all your degrees in one basket
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Adams Rubble: hmm, not all your course notebooks in one basket?
    Eden Haiku: smiles
    Adams Rubble: do people still use course notebooks?
    Riddle Sideways: stored on old computers
    Eden Haiku: Saw my first deer of the season yesterday. She says hello :)
    Riddle Sideways: that don't boot naymore
    Adams Rubble: wow, the first
    Riddle Sideways: hi dear
    Riddle Sideways: welcome to the country
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Eden Haiku: We have been in the country house for just a few days, so we were happy to see our offering of carrots and apples pleased her.
    Adams Rubble: we are overrun by deer
    Eden Haiku: They eat your gardens?
    Adams Rubble: yes and everyone elses
    Adams Rubble: have to be careful not to hit them when bicycling
    Riddle Sideways: ouch
    Eden Haiku: Grass and trees here, not many gardens. But those who have do complain about the deer...

     

    Adael shows up

     

    [Adael said You may fire when you are ready, Gridley! before I started recording its precious words]

    [07:26] Adael: from the Spanish-American war

    [07:26] Adael: in the Phillipines

    Adams Rubble: :) Adael
    Adams Rubble giggles
    Eden Haiku: is wondering if Adael is one of the 72 angels of the kabbala...
    [Checked later: no. it isn'it]
    Adams Rubble: strict gun laws in our state
    Riddle Sideways: Adael, what TV show is that quote from?
    Eden Haiku: No hunting allowed in this area :)
    Riddle Sideways: can picture it, but not name it
    Eden Haiku: Come on Adael!
    Riddle Sideways: giggles
    Eden Haiku: Adael is talking gibberish
    [Didn't record that phrase...]
    Eden Haiku: speaking gibberish
    Riddle Sideways: typing gibberish
    Adams Rubble: http://www.historynet.com/you-may-fire-when-you-are-ready-gridley-januaryfebruary-98-american-history-feature.htm

    [07:28] Adael: Battle of Manilla

    [07:28] Eden Haiku: Ah!

    [07:28] Adael: American imperialists

    07:28] Adael: also useful to start fireworks tomorrow 

    Eden Haiku: Ah!
    Eden Haiku: Was thinking how Pema wanted to create a kind of neighborhood cafe when he created PaB...
    Adams Rubble: yes for scientists to gather and discuss


    --BELL--


    Adams Rubble: Pema said to Storm--if you build it they will come
    Adams Rubble: :)

    [07:30] Adael: Love this PaB stuff!

     

    Adams Rubble:the Art Historians came instead :)
    Riddle Sideways: the WoK (QWAQ) meeting area was a large common room with personal "offices"/doors around the perimeter.
    Adams Rubble missed QWAQ
    Eden Haiku: Just got this interesting message: Second Life: You decline 'Step back into the past with Designing Worlds'( Sund (170,220,1995) ) from Messages from The Primgraph.
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Eden Haiku: heard about QWAQ, never been there though.

    Which lifetime? 


    Eden Haiku: What is our oldest memory of this lifetime?
    Riddle Sideways: and the astronomical society (sorry, forget the name) meeting area was sofas and coffee table
    Riddle Sideways: which lifetime?
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: ooooooo, Adael ...
    Eden Haiku: Good question Riddle:)
    Adams Rubble: my oldest memory in my lifetime is visiting the Sistine Chapel
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Eden Haiku: Really Adams? I guess you are joking :)
    Adams Rubble: nope
    Adams Rubble:It was on my rezz day
    Eden Haiku: Ah, Adams' lifetime, interesting!
    Adams Rubble: November 13, 2007
    Adams Rubble: If you want the oldest memory in my RL person’s lifetime it was at 6 months old
    Eden Haiku: I remember yurts in a snowy area, not sure if it was on rezz day though
    Eden Haiku: Listening to 6 months old RL avatar :)
    Adams Rubble: an apartment burned down next to the house
    Eden Haiku: Oh!
    Adams Rubble: the rl person remembers mother picking up the baby and carrying over to a window and looking out
    Eden Haiku: Oh wow!
    Adams Rubble: the baby sensed something different in the mother
    Eden Haiku: My 1st memory is also about fire...
    Riddle Sideways: remembering a stone path, bamboo fence and very small bridge... too hard to walk over
    Eden Haiku: Did the baby feel the fear?
    Adams Rubble: then they went outside and the baby remembers the red of the fire engines, lights blinking and hoses all over the street
    Eden Haiku: Wow!
    Adams Rubble: mother said it was at six months
    Eden Haiku: Your memory seems more peaceful Riddle? Was it?
    Adams Rubble: probbaly the fear, not sure
    Adams Rubble: whoops, rl interruprion. will be back
    Eden Haiku: Ok
    Eden Haiku: You were a toddler Riddle? little legs?
    Riddle Sideways: also RL phone
    Eden Haiku: Ok
    Riddle Sideways: no, was SL
    Eden Haiku: Ah!
    Eden Haiku: I still have trouble to walk in SL :)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Eden Haiku: Just going up the stairs up to the gallery is a big challenge for Eden :)
    Riddle Sideways: back. yes... stood at rez spot trying to get on the walking part of the bridge


    --BELL--


    Riddle Sideways: remember giving up and walking through bushes, stream, etc.
    Eden Haiku: My 1st RL memory is staring into the fire in the woodstove, after I dropped my pacifier. Was about 11 months old. I remember the colors of the fire: red and yellow and green and blue. Many colors. I was in the arms of my godfather.
    Adams Rubble: back, reading
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: both memories involve fire
    Eden Haiku: Weird isn'it?
    Adams Rubble: fire is a primal fear
    Adams Rubble: and a primal blessing

     

    Sweat lodge’s memories of prehistoric times


    Eden Haiku: Looking at the fire burning in the middle in the stones circle behind us
    Riddle Sideways: and fascination to young ones
    Eden Haiku: Primal fear, primal belssing, how true
    Eden Haiku: Did a sweat lodge a few summers ago.
    Riddle Sideways:not done sweat lodge for sooo many years
    Eden Haiku: When we got into the lodge, the 22 of us. And they shut the door...
    Eden Haiku: It was sooo dark and the embers were so red...
    Eden Haiku: The stones in the middle, glowing
    Eden Haiku: I felt like in prehistoric times
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Eden Haiku: Primal fear, primal blessing as Adams said

     

    Where we learn about Adams Rubble's ancestry


    Adams Rubble: My uncle Barney Rubble remembers prehistoric times :)
    Riddle Sideways: giggles
    Eden Haiku: ???
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: It was a TV show in US long ago
    Adams Rubble: The Flintstones
    Adams Rubble: My Unlce Barney was Fred Frlintstone's best friend
    Eden Haiku: Oh the Flinstones. They were called "Les Pierrafeu" here :) I know them. They didn’t translate the jokes I guess
    Riddle Sideways: to think that it has been so many years waiting for this reference to come up
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Eden Haiku: The Flintstones :)
    Adams Rubble:yes, I have been quiet about my origins :)
    Eden Haiku: Flintstones
    Riddle Sideways: the Rubbles
    Adams Rubble: Aunt Betty
    Adams Rubble: Cousin Bam Bam
    Eden Haiku: A mystery has been solved today. Adams’ name has prehistoric overtones :)
    Eden Haiku: Cousin Bam Bam was the cute baby?
    Riddle Sideways: the baby with the big club
    Adams Rubble: you may be thinking of the Flintstone baby
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes :)
    Adams Rubble: Pebbles Flintstone


    --BELL--

    07:59] Adael: Yes, that, and a big juicy hamburger to go with. Yum!


    Adams Rubble: Today Upsala College and the Flintstones entered into the PaB logs (well once Eden postes)
    Adams Rubble: Upsala
    Riddle Sideways: tracing your family name back to the town of Bedrock
    Adams Rubble: How did Barney Rubble translate into French?
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    Eden Haiku: Can't remember.
    Adams Rubble: not that the NJ Upsala has just one "p" and the accent is on the second syllable
    Eden Haiku: I do the remember the actor who was doubling the character though.
    Adams Rubble: unlike Uppsala University
    Eden Haiku: Famous French-Canadian actors from TV were doing the translations
    Riddle Sideways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A305EYEQzEo
    Eden Haiku: Uppsala University. Would love to visit, very old.

    [08:03] Adael: Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes. -Carl Jung

     

    Where Eden feels like she grew up in Adams’s and Riddle’s neighborhood even though they didn’t watch the Flintstones in the same language


    Eden Haiku: Be warned Adael, I'm recording you :)
    Adams Rubblewipes a tear from her eye
    Riddle Sideways: that would be good, logs does not usually carry Adael
    Eden Haiku: patting Adams on her back
    Eden Haiku: I know, I have to copy directly from my screen :)
    Adams Rubble: Arthur Laroche=Barney Rubble
    [hint hint as an afterhought: Laroche translates "Stone" which is to say French ancestry of Adams is Adams Stone (stoned?) hehe]
    Eden Haiku: She's the wisest of us all,  this Adael :)[Did not record that sentence from Adael, it’s lost forever now...]
    Eden Haiku: Arthur Laroche, yes!!!!
    Adams Rubble: hmm Adams Laroche
    Eden Haiku: I think Paul Berval was Flintstone and Arthur Laroche was... asking my companion, wondering if he will remember... He finds the question weird...
    Adams Rubble: Claude Michaud
    Eden Haiku: His brain cells are still a bit sleepy...
    Eden Haiku: Claude Michaud yes! Wow, Adams, thanks to the Internet, I have the feeling we grew up todether :)
    Riddle Sideways: ha
    Riddle Sideways: and Bertha Laroche
    Eden Haiku: Béatrice Picard!
    [Was wrong, Monique Miller was playing Betty (Bertha), Béatrice Picard was playing Delima’s mother ( Wilma's mother) ]
    Riddle Sideways: Arthur and Bertha
    Eden Haiku: She's still acting, an old lady now
    Eden Haiku: Was Bertha Flintsone's wife?
    Riddle Sideways: Barney's
    Eden Haiku: Ah...
    Eden Haiku: It’s, 11h11 here :)
    Riddle Sideways: Thelma
    [Looking up the Pierrefeu Wikipedia, I don’t see any Thelma, maybe Riddle meant Wilma...]
    Adams Rubble: Arthur Laroche's
    Eden Haiku: Thelma
    Riddle Sideways: hard chat to follow
    Adams Rubble: thank you both for the discussion this morning
    Eden Haiku: Thanks Adael and Adams :)
    Adams Rubble: hehe, yes Riddle
    Eden Haiku: Yes :)
    Adams Rubble: good luck readers :)\
    Eden Haiku: Thank you Riddle, have a nice day both!
    Riddle Sideways: thanks and have your best
    Eden Haiku: And good luck readers yes :)
    Adams Rubble: bye bye and happy day
    Eden Haiku: Bye bye!
    Riddle Sideways: by all

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