2019.04.11 07:00 - Adams, Riddle and Adams

    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

     
    Riddle and I were joined by Adams Dubrovna. I left early and they talked on.

     

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    Reconstruction

    Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Good morning Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: Good Day, Adams'
    Adams Dubrovna: you are surrounded
    Riddle Sideways: you can sit anyway you want
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡
    Riddle Sideways: saw the Reconstruction part 1 show
    Riddle Sideways: so many details had never known
    Adams Dubrovna: I have not seen the whole thing yet
    Adams Dubrovna: I fell asleep and had to go to bed
    Riddle Sideways: ha, yes nodded off also, backed the tape up
    Adams Dubrovna: I will watch this week
    Riddle Sideways: should take it in small amounts to absorb

    Dubrovna mentions the real life Talk

    Adams Dubrovna: I have been over so much of this stuff the past few weeks
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Riddle Sideways: except a different presentation
    Adams Dubrovna: It was quite an experience taking SL into RL
    --BELL--
    Adams Dubrovna: was thinking about all you guys
    Riddle Sideways: scary? or might have to explain too much
    Adams Dubrovna: it gave me the confidence to do it
    Riddle Sideways: the material was already done
    Adams Dubrovna: funny, I get very nervous the two weeks before and then calm down when it is time to talk
    Adams Dubrovna: It was something that happned in graduate school
    Adams Dubrovna: I was giving a report and kept mispronouncing one of the key words in the presentation
    Adams Dubrovna: the professor who was very formidable kept correcting me each time
    Adams Dubrovna: finally I found it funny and laughed every time the word came up
    Riddle Sideways: good
    Riddle Sideways: but scared
    Adams Dubrovna: since then I think of that when it is time to talk and am not nervous any more
    Riddle Sideways: great tool
    Adams Dubrovna: yes and I have never mispronounced that word
    Riddle Sideways: move on to mispronouncing other words
    Adams Dubrovna: ha
    Riddle Sideways: is it 'creek' or 'creek'
    Adams Dubrovna: both
    Riddle Sideways: trying to get your point across
    Riddle Sideways: and audience drifting off on mispronounced words
    Riddle Sideways: like where the mind gois on typos
    Adams Dubrovna: with this topic the images kept people awake
    Riddle Sideways: you had disturbing images
    Adams Dubrovna: yes
    Riddle Sideways: they were awake to see the next one
    Adams Dubrovna: I developed it quite a bit from what was presented here
    Riddle Sideways: did you include the WWII vet stuff?
    Adams Dubrovna: no
    Adams Dubrovna: jumped from 1940 to 1977
    Riddle Sideways: ok
    Adams Dubrovna: had to cut lots of m,aterial
    Adams Dubrovna: it turned out a good length and there was some good dialogue
    Riddle Sideways: no 4 hour talks
    Adams Dubrovna: I have been thinking (insert your uh-ohs here)
    Adams Dubrovna: from a sort of Buddhist viewpoint
    Adams Dubrovna: when we try to change our own behavior, we examine our thoughts
    Adams Dubrovna: we watch the thoughts until we see our mind acting against our interests
    Adams Rubble wakes up
    Riddle Sideways: *:::* WELCOME BACK *:::*
    Riddle Sideways: whoops
    Adams Rubble: thanks
    Adams Rubble: and yikes
    Riddle Sideways: Yes! spent from 3:06 to around 4:30 doing that
    Riddle Sideways: am
    Adams Rubble: I did much of that in my first year in PaB
    Adams Rubble: began to see (hear) the voices from the past telling me do act in ways I did not want to act

    Dubrovna's Prescription for the Country

    Adams Dubrovna: I think that as a country we need to do some of this
    Adams Dubrovna: White people should stop feeling guilty about what their counterparts or ancestors did in the past
    Adams Dubrovna: but they do need to see the stereotypes that were passed down to them by these ancestors
    Adams Dubrovna: they need to learn about this difficult history-the terrible things done in the name of our country
    --BELL--
    Adams Dubrovna: that pause was untimely :0
    Riddle Sideways: compounded by the terrible things done in the name of our religion
    Adams Dubrovna: they need to put themseleves in place of the oppressed
    Adams Dubrovna: see what it might feel like
    Riddle Sideways: add the terrible things done by groups we are members of
    Adams Dubrovna: The diffferent is just skin pigment
    Adams Dubrovna: the sterotyping was done by people who wanted to control people in order to become wealtthy
    Adams Dubrovna: we see all of this today
    Adams Dubrovna: rich becoming more brazen in their greed
    Adams Dubrovna: the vote still being depressed
    Adams Dubrovna: anyway I wanted to come today and try out that line of thought
    Riddle Sideways: good
    Adams Dubrovna: how do we stop this stuff?
    Adams Dubrovna: it starts with ourselves
    Riddle Sideways: so, we need to remember history and not be controlled, depressed, etc. by it
    Adams Dubrovna: yes
    Adams Dubrovna: all of this is going on today
    Adams Dubrovna: we need to see the connection
    Adams Dubrovna: all coming from those stereotypes
    Riddle Sideways: e.g. heard there was a meeting yesterday about Hate Speech
    Riddle Sideways: everybody there ended up pointing fingers
    Riddle Sideways: at Other
    Adams Dubrovna: ohhh
    Riddle Sideways: House Committee on Not getting anything done
    Adams Dubrovna: there were some low moments in Congress yesterday
    Adams Dubrovna: Here is how I ended the talk Monday:

    "William Anderson wrote an column about his experience at the memorial in Hyperallergic, an online blog. The author described how as the floor descends the individual columns seem higher and one begins to feel they have become a callous viewer of lynchings. In his grief, Anderson felt estranged from white visitors photographing the monument reminding him of those who took the photographs at the actual lynchings. This feeling was intensified when he viewed people taking selfies as they sought out and found a jar of soil from their own county.

    "The memorial has become sacred ground for some of us. For others it is a teaching museum, maybe an entry point to learning about the extent of horror. It is difficult to bridge centuries of misinformation and stereotyping. Facing our shared history is a first step."


    Adams Dubrovna: the last slide was the Lynching Museum in Montgomery.

    Adams Rubble: Thanks for coming today AD!
    Riddle Sideways: yes, thanks for sharing
    Riddle Sideways: when one goes to the Memorial, they bring their attitude and hard to see/hear the Other attitudes
    Riddle Sideways: unless Open happens
    Adams Dubrovna: yes
    Adams Dubrovna: I thought it was a good example of misunderstandings as we try to move forward

    Dubrovna does not like to be shusshed; Riddle picks up on Different reactions to the Memorial

    Adams Dubrovna: what's this shhh stuff
    Riddle Sideways: giggles
    Riddle Sideways: Some observing the reverent silent pause. Others getting shhhhh'ed
    Adams Dubrovna: what kind of place are you running here AR?
    Riddle Sideways: "why are those kids being allowed run across the scared lawn"
    Adams Rubble: :)
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: some come to pray
    Riddle Sideways: some come to learn
    Adams Rubble: Oh, I should mention that we are recorded here AD and whatever you say can be used against you
    Riddle Sideways: some come to Be
    Adams Dubrovna: yes Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: and Will be used against us All
    Adams Dubrovna: my sister is a sassy one
    Riddle Sideways: the pointing of fingers
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: poor Riddle is caught in the middle
    Adams Dubrovna: it is so easy to let our feathers get ruffled by perceived slights
    Riddle Sideways: ... on the Left, ... on the right of me, Stuck in the middle with you
    Riddle Sideways: when the 'perceiving' was done internally
    Riddle Sideways: by that Mind doing those Thoughts
    Adams Dubrovna: we are working on many levels this morning
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Riddle Sideways: as always
    Riddle Sideways: first forgive yourself
    Adams Dubrovna: love yourself
    Riddle Sideways: with a good grip on that, flow out a bit and forgive your sisters
    Riddle Sideways: each breath expanding a bit more
    Riddle Sideways: at some unexpected point
    Riddle Sideways: forgive the old white rich guy
    Adams Dubrovna: andget the old rich white guy to pay his fair share in taxes
    Adams Dubrovna: but yes, Riddle, breathing compassion

    I had to leave early

    Adams Rubble is going to slip away. The log is secured. Have a very good day. I will try to remember to breath compassion to today.
    Riddle Sideways: by Adams
    Riddle Sideways: an unfortunate personally fault is to find something funny in every moment
    Adams Dubrovna: btw, Adams will not be here next Thursday or the following Monday
    Adams Dubrovna: possibly Tuesday
    Riddle Sideways: same here
    Riddle Sideways: no, wait. Monday is ok
    Riddle Sideways: next 2 Tuesdays and the Thursday between
    Riddle Sideways: will be missing
    Adams Dubrovna: ohhh
    Riddle Sideways: flying on both Tuesdays
    Adams Dubrovna: flying is a bummer
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    --BELL--
    Adams Dubrovna: I had an uncle who advised me to laugh every day. he laughed all the time
    Adams Dubrovna: He lived to be 98
    Riddle Sideways: oh Dear, there is hope?
    Riddle Sideways: and you keep doing research, collecting Art/facts/stories/artifacts and putting together shows
    Riddle Sideways: and giving SL presentations
    Adams Dubrovna: Something changed Monday night
    Adams Dubrovna: I don't know what will happn next
    Riddle Sideways: and now the excitement of taking them to the streets
    Adams Dubrovna: they have asked me to do this one again
    Riddle Sideways: maybe an invite to repeat the talk somewhere
    Riddle Sideways: snap
    Riddle Sideways: the small audience thought of others that would really like it
    Adams Dubrovna: or learn from it
    Riddle Sideways: need to hear-see it

    No Museum Plans at this time

    Adams Dubrovna: I wonder if I will have the energy to do another museum exhibition
    Adams Dubrovna: have been thinking about the gods of the Mahabaratta
    Adams Dubrovna: also the Celtic crosses
    Riddle Sideways: Please forgive (ahead of the happening) those that would want selfies with you and a slide backgroung
    Riddle Sideways: it takes *what seems like) a lot of energy to put those together
    Riddle Sideways: *=(
    Adams Dubrovna: yes and I need to get lindens from my sister
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Riddle Sideways: yet, you are 'Forced' to learn, collect, read, write, edit, arrange
    Riddle Sideways: and Know
    Adams Dubrovna: yes, period of research
    Riddle Sideways: Labor of Love
    Adams Dubrovna: making sure I have facts right
    Riddle Sideways: (and yes, Museum directors are always trying to raise Lindens)
    Adams Dubrovna: yes need a patron who is loaded
    Adams Dubrovna better remember that someone who is going to edit this log will see what I say
    Riddle Sideways: giggles
    Adams Dubrovna: I have a very fine, generous patron
    Riddle Sideways: there
    Riddle Sideways: Powerful stuff you do
    Adams Dubrovna: thank you. I have benefitted from it all
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: back, had a disruption at that pause
    Adams Dubrovna: oh, hope everything is OK
    Riddle Sideways: mostly, yes
    Riddle Sideways: one of the 5 items was News that the wikileaks guy got arrested
    Adams Dubrovna: yes,
    Adams Dubrovna: he annoyed the Equadorians
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, almost looked at News on a browser
    Riddle Sideways: slapped fingers
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: I should go. I have to return some photos
    Adams Dubrovna: they are actual photos and I can't just IM or email them
    Riddle Sideways: should too, seem to have thrown the things to do today out with the bath water
    Adams Dubrovna: it was very good seeing you and I hope you have a good trip
    Riddle Sideways: hope your's is easy and fun too
    Riddle Sideways: we should talk more often
    Adams Dubrovna: yes, right now am dreading the day but hopefully things will go smoothly
    Adams Dubrovna: yeah, it was good to come here today
    Riddle Sideways: ok, by for now
    Adams Dubrovna: bye

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