2019.07.01 07:00 - Not Eden, but What and How

The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

Riddle Sideways: good morning, Adams
Riddle Sideways: did you see Eden's email
Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
Adams Rubble: no, did not see email
Adams Rubble: is she not coming?
Riddle Sideways: she wrote that she can not make it today
Riddle Sideways: was supposed to be moving to the country later, but her sweet mother-in-law is dying
Adams Rubble: oh oh
Adams Rubble: let's sit them

Riddle Sideways: hope that it is not to hard on them
Adams Rubble: send hugs to Eden
Riddle Sideways: Yes! Hugs Eden and all her's
Riddle Sideways: thoughts go out

Riddle Sideways: read your blog email
Riddle Sideways: it arrives as an email
Adams Rubble: ohhh
Riddle Sideways: had a very simular yesterday
Riddle Sideways: cleaning
Adams Rubble listens
Riddle Sideways: throwing out more Stuff
Riddle Sideways: the far back storage closet
Riddle Sideways: spending quality time with partner
Riddle Sideways: at first said sarcastically
Riddle Sideways: but, remembering what you said some time ago
Riddle Sideways: need to remember that we are so blessed with those that choose to spend time with us
Adams Rubble: :)

Riddle Sideways: not only are we what we think
Adams Rubble repeated what someone else said
Riddle Sideways: we are How we think
Riddle Sideways: those Attitudes
Adams Rubble: the "we are what we think" is very profound and yes, the how
Riddle Sideways: toward any subject
Adams Rubble nods

Adams Rubble: it was very Buddhis of me
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: Buddhost
Riddle Sideways: yes
Adams Rubble: Buddhist
Riddle Sideways: pick any one
Riddle Sideways: spelting

Riddle Sideways: when reading your words... flashed back to trying to stand, after crawling under stuff
Riddle Sideways: to carry a heavy old project parts
Riddle Sideways: should it be tossed away? cleaned up? saved? finished?
Riddle Sideways: it is so heavy, big, lots of parts, fragile,
Adams Rubble: It is easier to decide what someone else should get rid of :)
Adams Rubble: /mer listens
Riddle Sideways: these old joints ache and don't want to do this anymore
Riddle Sideways: exactly last weeks thoughts of somebody else judging a pile of prized junk
Riddle Sideways: that is a prized half done project
Adams Rubble: it used to be easier to use old parts for projects or to repair things
Adams Rubble: very hard to fix things now
           --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: yes, there were a couple of them that just had to be said, can't fix that
Riddle Sideways: (turns audio up to hear beel)
Riddle Sideways: a couple others that a dab of super-glue will mend this, whatever, that a child made and gave
Riddle Sideways: put it on a shelf for another day to fix (hope that day comes)
Adams Rubble: :)

Riddle Sideways: today's thoughts of your writing, we are what we think
Riddle Sideways: so thinking back to yesterday
Riddle Sideways: How was the thinking during the get up, carry this,
Adams Rubble: is that a question?
Riddle Sideways: 3 old bottles of a strange soda! a very hard to find soda. not that good, actually. But a friend went out of way to get that and give
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: the thinking processes

Adams Rubble: I remember reading about how we save things our parents gave us and we save things our children use. All these things weigh us down
Adams Rubble: hard to let them go
Riddle Sideways: clean the dust off them, put them on a high shelf. to be found again some other day
Riddle Sideways: weighed down by stuff?
Riddle Sideways: weighed down by memories?
Riddle Sideways: so full of great memories?
Adams Rubble: in this case the person was talking about stuff
Riddle Sideways: read sentences like that too

Riddle Sideways: however, How do you think about it?
Adams Rubble changes mind all the time about stuff :)
Adams Rubble: goes through campaigns, pulls back and them campaigns again
Riddle Sideways: sometimes that stuff is shit weighing one down
Riddle Sideways: sometimes that stuff is the most dear thing possible
Riddle Sideways: this little trinket
Adams Rubble: books are the hardest
Riddle Sideways: is the memories of a 30 year gone person
Adams Rubble nods
Adams Rubble: I have a saucer that was my great grandmother's; she died early and my grandmother was an orphan. She said it all those years
Adams Rubble: grandmother saved not said
           --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: a little saucer
Riddle Sideways: a huge memory
Riddle Sideways: guessing that we 'Could' conjure those memories up without keeping the object
Riddle Sideways: But don't
Riddle Sideways: or have too many
Riddle Sideways: lay awake all night bringing them up
Riddle Sideways: or put the saucer on a high shelf.
Adams Rubble nods
Riddle Sideways: very carefully
Riddle Sideways: use that sticky stuff
Riddle Sideways: so no earthquake damage

Adams Rubble: then we are memories because that is what we think
Riddle Sideways: yes, we are. and some more too
Riddle Sideways: take a huge pile of memories. piles of Big Data
Riddle Sideways: then What do think of that data
Adams Rubble: I've got big hard drives :)
Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: got all that stored stuff

Adams Rubble sings Memories

Adams Rubble: stored on the hard drive...
Adams Rubble: carefully organized.....
Riddle Sideways: yes, you organize
Riddle Sideways: easy to access
Riddle Sideways: however, this inventory is a pile
Adams Rubble nods
Riddle Sideways: when looking for a count of broken coffee cups, will note a saucer
Adams Rubble: photograph it and put the images on the hard drive. hehe

Riddle Sideways: now then, What do you think.
Riddle Sideways: How do you think
Riddle Sideways: you are more than the pile of hard drive bits
Riddle Sideways: that is just data to be data behind thoughts
Adams Rubble: hmmm
Riddle Sideways: facts and dates to be piled on the scales of some thought calculations
           --BELL--

Riddle Sideways: ?
Adams Rubble: we accumulate stuff and think it is us or that we need it but going back to the beginning, we are what we think
Adams Rubble: it is our love and compassion that matters
Adams Rubble: the rest is distraction, maybe?
Riddle Sideways: ah ha! it is that "maybe?"
Riddle Sideways: piles of stuff, piles of memories, piles of data. to use as data in some thought. Then the meta, What do we think of that thought
Riddle Sideways: then the meta behind that one's shoulder asking How do we think about that what and thought
Riddle Sideways: is it really a distraction
Riddle Sideways: Of course it is a distraction! it needs to be tossed out. get rid of all distractions
Riddle Sideways: get back to just Love and Compassion
Riddle Sideways: except for this saucer
Riddle Sideways: and this stapler
Riddle Sideways: (and some more lines from a bad Steve Martin movie "The Jerk")

Adams Rubble: It is much easier to say this than do it. Much easier to look at someone else's accumulations and say they should do it

Riddle Sideways: was also observing another going through boxes of holidays decorations from that closet
Adams Rubble: ohhhhh
Riddle Sideways: announcing that we do not celebrate Halloween anymore
Riddle Sideways: throw out all Halloween stuff.
Adams Rubble: YES
Riddle Sideways: carry that box out
Adams Rubble: bye bye
Riddle Sideways: Then
Riddle Sideways: wait, give me that clay black cat daughter made
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: and all the ten year old candy
Riddle Sideways: ha, trying to find those expiration dates on food stuffs

Riddle Sideways: a slight difference were most of that closet with 'Our' family/together/shared Stuff
Riddle Sideways: so not 'why are YOU tossing MY stuff'
Riddle Sideways: bad thoughts
Riddle Sideways: more shared, do we still need this
Riddle Sideways: together
           --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: good tender thoughts
Riddle Sideways: evalute the love amounts

Adams Rubble: We would burden our children if we leave them all the stuff we saved from their childhood and teach them to accumulate
Adams Rubble: ha, do as I say, not as i do

Riddle Sideways: well, two things
Adams Rubble: grandchildren not interested in lots of the old toys
Riddle Sideways: just looked to the right at an uncleared out closet
Riddle Sideways: it has organizing boxes
Riddle Sideways: about 3 feet wide and 6 ft tall
Riddle Sideways: of all school work by both kids
Adams Rubble: we have a file cabinet full and then other stuff scattered around
Riddle Sideways: second, will tell in IM
Adams Rubble: I try to scan it and throw it away but not making much progress
Adams Rubble: brb

     Please excuse, gentle reader, much deep personal memories discussed in private IM.  Some golden nuggets in there, but the whole chat needs to not be public.
    Funny, as the most open person and one who thinks all chat/lives/dreams should be recorded and shared, has one live experience story not for the public.
 

Riddle Sideways: your RL comes in and the groceries need carrying
Riddle Sideways: memory comes in and the life and times of the long departed need carrying
Riddle Sideways: thoughts come in and the 'What If' calculations need to be carryed

Riddle Sideways: Today is Garbage and Recycling day. take it all to the curb
Riddle Sideways: resist looking in the bins
Riddle Sideways: to not take something back out
Adams Rubble: yes
Riddle Sideways: OR
Riddle Sideways: well, maybe just this precious memory thing
           --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: the nice garbage collector will take the contents
Riddle Sideways: along with all the others
Riddle Sideways: to the landfill
Riddle Sideways: and Fill the Land with our memories
Riddle Sideways: our Stuff
Adams Rubble: to mix with all your other stuff, and your neighbors
Riddle Sideways: all of it piled there
Adams Rubble: all connected
Riddle Sideways: all connected
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: well, except  one shiny thing that a seagull grabbed and flew off with
Riddle Sideways: Somebodies wedding band

Adams Rubble: the big Staten Island landfill has become a park
Riddle Sideways: the Filled Land
Riddle Sideways: have you been to that Park?
Adams Rubble: not yet
Riddle Sideways: or just Think about it?
Adams Rubble: it costs a bloody fortune to cross the bridge
Riddle Sideways: is that What you think about it? :))
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: so when asking self about How do I think about ... there is a Smile
Adams Rubble: we have big generous thoughts and little petty thoughts

Riddle Sideways: /waves to Eden
Riddle Sideways: Thank you both so much for this morning
Adams Rubble: thank you Riddle and thank you for grabbing the log
Riddle Sideways: Thinking of Eden
Adams Rubble: yes
Adams Rubble: have a very good week if I am not able to see you tomorrow
Riddle Sideways: oh ok
Adams Rubble: I will come if I can
Riddle Sideways: ok
Adams Rubble: it is going to be a crazy couple of weeks
Riddle Sideways: thanks All for that
Adams Rubble: thank you you for being here today
Riddle Sideways: crazy can be fun
Adams Rubble: it will be the meeting of the all the little ones
Riddle Sideways: aw
Adams Rubble: easy coast and west coast little ones
Riddle Sideways: ㋡
Adams Rubble: bye for now
Riddle Sideways: and take care
Adams Rubble: thank you, you too