2019.10.14 07:00 - Shelters

The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.

Adams, Eden and Riddle

Colombus, Indigenous Peoples Day, Canadian Thanksgiving, Sukkot Day

Adams Rubble: Good morning Eden :)
Eden Haiku: Good morning Adams :) What a nice outfit you are wearing!
Adams Rubble: does it suggest Medieval Spain?
Eden Haiku: Spain I couldn't tell, but medieval yes!
Adams Rubble: Nice purple outfit you are wearing :)
Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle of the early morning hour
Adams Rubble: It is still very dark here at 10 am
Eden Haiku: Thanks Adams and welcome hawaiian Riddle :)
Eden Haiku: Dark at 10 am? Wow...
Riddle Sideways: howdee
Adams Rubble: very overcast
Riddle Sideways: yep, still dark here too
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: Overcast here too, but not dark
Adams Rubble: we have the moody grays
Adams Rubble: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving
Eden Haiku: Not dark...After a glorious week end, even rather warm and sunny with gold and red hues, it looks rather bland. The sky is white...
Adams Rubble: Happy Columbus/Indigenous Peoples Day
Eden Haiku: Thank you for your wishes. Yes, Happy Colombus Day. Didn't know it was now also Indigenous Day :)
Adams Rubble: Columbus was sent on a cruise by the monarchs who explelled all Jews and Muslims from Spain
Riddle Sideways: looks at calendar and the little box is full of specialness today
Adams Rubble: yes,Happy Sukkot
Riddle Sideways: yes
Adams Rubble: saw lots of men carrying bundles on my bicycle ride this morning

"Does it suggest medieval Spain?"

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Eden Haiku: Happy Sukkot
Riddle Sideways: went to help build sukkah yesterday, but it was already done
Riddle Sideways: is there a big Thanksgiving meal in Canada today?
Eden Haiku: Sukkot, ah yes, the building of shelters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukkot
Eden Haiku: Not really a big thing here, nothing to compare to what it is in the US.
Eden Haiku: No big gatherings.We celebrate at New Year rather.
Adams Rubble: yes, big football day in US (giggles)
Riddle Sideways: and watch parades on TV before football
Riddle Sideways: and listen to Alice's Restaurant
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: sings "Including Alice....
Eden Haiku: I celebrated Thanksgiving with attending a 3 days Biodanza workshop on the theme of "grace". It was elating!
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: very nice
Riddle Sideways: celebrated one day by doing 3 days
Adams Rubble is celebrating Columbus Day by studying the art of the peolple kicked out of Spain
Eden Haiku: What I love the most about these dance workshops is that we refrain from talking. Except at short pauses. There is the music and our non-verbal communication as directed by the "mistress of the dance".
Riddle Sideways: "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition"
Eden Haiku: We had a "circle of talking" yesterday afternoon, but then I couldn't recover my talking skills and I remained silent :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: ㋡
Eden Haiku: You are dressed for the occasion Adams :) In this medieval Spanish outfit...
Eden Haiku: Averrooës was one of the people kicked out then, wasn't he?
Adams Rubble:He lived in the 12th century

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Crossing thresholds

Eden Haiku: Not the Inquisition anymore?
Adams Rubble: Inquisition was later--it was aimed at Jews and Muslims that had converted to Christianity. Some felt they were not Christian enough
Riddle Sideways: Imagine the idea that only some people of the right religion can be in your country or come in
Eden Haiku: Still haven't visited the Museum Annex Adams... still buzzed by the city rythm. Ah, I see, thanks for the explanation. Not Christians enough hummmm...
Adams Rubble: how chilling to say that out loud
Eden Haiku: How chilling yes, sounds so actual....
Eden Haiku: There was a muslim woman among the 26 dancers of the workshop. No hijab, long curly hair, but very modest. She had incredibly moving eyes and a sufi heart. She cried a lot: there is a lot of touching and hugging in these workshops, men and women mixing together. She was crossing thresholds.
Riddle Sideways: 3 days full of Grace
Eden Haiku: Yes :)
Riddle Sideways: and we start talking bad history
Eden Haiku: Bad history happened and is happening...still
Eden Haiku:in Turkey with the Kurds, everywhere...but it was rejuvenating to be off the hook for a little while :)
Riddle Sideways: good, some rest
Riddle Sideways: yes, was thinking of Turkey
Riddle Sideways: instead of Thanksgiving bird
Eden Haiku: Turkey hey hey, is it the exact same word?
Riddle Sideways: lots of war and killing, and our radios were full of how close a shell came to some US camp
Eden Haiku: Sad, all these wars and killings...

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Riddle Sideways: Sad that the News had to skip what was happening to report about US troops
Eden Haiku: Yes...
Adams Rubble: people have to die for trump Tower in istanbul
Eden Haiku: Harsh truth Adams :(
Eden Haiku: Went to a show yesterday night after the closing of the workshop. Had tickets for months. The performer is a famous Quebec folk singer, almost 91 years old now. He was amazing!
Eden Haiku: He's a poet really and wrote his own songs for decades. Beautiful hynms to our identity.
Eden Haiku: One is called (my translation): " My country isn't a country it’s the snow"
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: "My country isn't a country it's winter"as sung by Gilles Vigneault:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_R6D7mU7M
Riddle Sideways: maybe "... it's winter"
Riddle Sideways: ah, typed too late
Eden Haiku: Yes, i skipped to the second verse...
Riddle Sideways: 'Grace'. was thinking about the christian Full of Grace. However, you probably meant Graceful dancing
Adams Rubble: ohhhh
Adams Rubble: I was thinking of the other grace too
Riddle Sideways: like Thanksgiving turkey brings up the country Turkey

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Eden Haiku: No no, it was "grace" as being thankful, but not in a religious way. We don't aim at "graceful" dancing in these Biodanza classes...
Riddle Sideways: was going off on simple words that fire off multiple meanings and images and mental states
Eden Haiku: Mon pays (English translation) Artist: Gilles Vigneault Song: Mon pays 

My Country

 My country is not a country,it's the winter

 My garden is not a garden, it's the plains

 My path is not a path, it's the snow 

My country is not a country, it's the winter

 In the white ceremony

 Where the snow marries the wind

 In this land of blowing snow

 My father had a house built

 And I will be faithful

 To his ways, to his example

 The guest room will be such

 That they will come season after season

 To build themselves next to it

My country is not a country, it's the winter 

My chorus is not a chorus, it's a gust of wind

My house is not my house, it's the cold

 My country is not a country, it's the winter

 About my solitary country I cry out before I am silenced

 To all men on earth

 My home is your home

 Within my four walls of ice

 I put my time and my space

To prepare the fire, the place

 For the people on the horizon

 And the people are of my are race

Eden Haiku: Sorry for the long post, here is the ending:

My country is not a country, it's the winter

My garden is not a garden, it's the plains

 My path is not a path, it's the snow

 My country is not a country, it's the winter

My country is not a country, it's the opposite

 Of a country that was neither land nor homeland 

My song is not a song, it's my life

 It's for you that I want to own my winters

 https://lyricstranslate.com/en/mon-pays-my-country.html-1

Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: A bit like "This Land is Your Land"
Adams Rubble: bringing us back full circle to the Guthries
Eden Haiku: And he wrote this in the sixties...
Adams Rubble: brb
Eden Haiku: Listening to Woodie Guthrie :)

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Riddle Sideways: too many thoughts going through head
Riddle Sideways: can't write complete sentences
Eden Haiku: Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiMrvDbq3s
Adams Rubble: I was just outside where the sun has made an appearance. It is a low sun in the south filtering through the changing leaves.
Eden Haiku: Yes, it's similar in ways it opens to others coming from elsewhere. But there is no doubt about "this land is my land" in Guthrie's song.
Eden Haiku: In the other one it's "My country  not a country" and it is a very real and very sad truth...
Eden Haiku: Yes, the sun is timidly showing up here too...
Adams Rubble: sad?
Riddle Sideways: "Morning has broken ..."
Riddle Sideways: like the first morning
Riddle Sideways: ohhhh! later in the lyrics "Born of the one light Eden saw play"
Eden Haiku: Sad yes, becauseCanada is like a bully for Quebecers.We would like to be a country but we lost two referendums. Ottawa puts big money into blocking us...Like Spain with the Catalonian people.
Eden Haiku: "born of the one light Eden saw play"; nice line Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: by Cat Stevens
Eden Haiku: Tks

Happy Dance

Onigokko!

Eden Haiku:Feeling like the Garden of Eden suddenly :)
Eden Haiku: onigokko
Riddle Sideways: hahahha
Eden Haiku: Oh no!
Eden Haiku: stop
Eden Haiku: onigokko
Riddle Sideways:does the Happy Dance
Eden Haiku: Celebrating the new light of a new day!
Eden Haiku: Wishing you both many more happy mornings lights breaking!
Eden Haiku: stop
Riddle Sideways: so many things to celebrate today
Eden Haiku: Are you planning to spend the night in the sukkah Riddle, or is it mostly symbolic?

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Riddle Sideways: not Big enough holiday for the garbage trucks not to come today
Riddle Sideways: mostly symbolic
Riddle Sideways: some people do though
Eden Haiku: :)
Riddle Sideways: many more eat dinner out in one
Eden Haiku: In a Jewish neighborhood of Montreal (mostly hassidic), people do build shelters on their balconies
Riddle Sideways:yes, seen many on balconies
Eden Haiku: Ah guess, that's what they do. In Fall, in gets pretty cold at night here :)
Riddle Sideways: think a couple years ago, daughter's house built one in backyard and slept in it
Eden Haiku: Commemorationg the Exodus... and the discovery of America and remembering to be grateful :)
Riddle Sideways: almost a title
Riddle Sideways: for today
Eden Haiku: To sleep in the sukkah must be a powerful way to remember the Exodus
Riddle Sideways: is there a letter limit to titles in the wiki?
Riddle Sideways: prefer the Passover meal with the 4 glasses of wine to remember the Exodus :))
Eden Haiku: I was thinking "Shelters" for the title, a short one which seems to encapsulate what we talked about: Christian from Muslim and Jewish descent kicked out of Spain, Europeans finding shelter with the Indigenous tribes of America, the Exodus, a country looking for shelter... so many layers...
Riddle Sideways: btw *sukkah  [Thanks Riddle, I corrected our spelling]
Riddle Sideways: (work for the poor editor)
Eden Haiku: Ah thanks for the right spelling Riddle :)
Adams Rubble: Thankful that Trump Tower does not require our own sacrifice?
Riddle Sideways: layers upon layers
Eden Haiku: Guess it's time for a walk in the golden hues of this morning light...
Riddle Sideways: circling
Eden Haiku: Also Adams , yes :)
Riddle Sideways: cycling
Eden Haiku:recycling :)
Riddle Sideways: ㋡ haha yes
Eden Haiku: And cycling for Adams?
Adams Rubble: cycling good for knees
Eden Haiku: Thank you both for being here
Riddle Sideways: thank you both
Eden Haiku: Your dress is spectacular Adams when you are standing!

Adams Rubble: thank you for hosting Eden and thanks for being here Riddle :)
Eden Haiku: have a very nice grateful day!
Riddle Sideways: another happy dance, Adams
Adams Rubble: and graceful
Eden Haiku: Oh wow!And you are a flamenco dancer too!
Eden Haiku: The dance is gorgeous Adams, thank you!
Eden Haiku: All the spirit of Spain :))
Eden Haiku: a proud dance, filled with the fire of beauty!

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Eden Haiku: Amazing AO ! [unfortunately, I missed taking a snapshot of the flamenco dance!]
Eden Haiku: Bye for now friends :)))
Adams Rubble: bye :)
Riddle Sideways: by All