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    I can't help but notice a distinctly feminine touch in the sessions from these days, as "Bella" is named, as a mother's loss is acknowledged, as Eden visits, with Alice. At last, a session about Kuan Yin, into which she seems to bring Mary and Guadalupe too. :)


    2010.02.07 01:00 - Still asleep?

    Liza Deischer: I just woke up, I'm not such a good sleeper I'm afraid
    Liza Deischer: and I thought, just in time for the morningsession
    Liza Deischer: morning to me :-)
    Stargate Tone: to us too *
    Stargate Tone: _/!\_

    Bertram Jacobus: hello everybody ! ... :-))
    Liza Deischer: it brings me back to church :-) 

    2010.02.07 07:00 - Should I? Wings?

    Fael Illyar: I find it best to just accept the things you can't help and concentrate on something you can help :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I agree Fael :)
    Lia Rikugun: yes, the challenge is to find out what you can change :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, to be interested isn´t the issue to drop the thought about it
    Fael Illyar: yes... it's also possible to accept that you can't do anything about it right now and move to doing something you can.
    Agatha Macbeth: nods

    Agatha Macbeth: Wings are the cure for bad news! :)

    2010.02.07 08:00 - Guardian Session: 5 "Bella"s and a Tip Jar

    Pema Pera: Storm, have you envisioned a way to herd the cat namers?

    Storm Nordwind: We had Being, Beir, Bella, Bodhiguard, Fiver, Lila, Mehitabel, Schrödinger, Sleepy, Snoozy,
    Spark plug plus we've just had Meep and there's also Bell
    Pema Pera: and pentabel

    Riddle Sideways: filled with An Tici pation
    Wol Euler: recount!
    Storm Nordwind: a recount has been called...
    Wol Euler: O.O
    Storm Nordwind: meanwhile we will play you some boring music
    Eliza Madrigal: o.O
    Warm Cookie whispers:  OMG... YUMMMMMMY
    Pema Pera: do we have a Supreme PaB Court?
    Wol Euler: I'm sure we can buy one somewhere...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Storm Nordwind: No Pema... but we have a supreme cat
    Eliza Madrigal: badump bump

    arabella Ella: :)
    Pema Pera: Yak Yak has spoken!
    Widget Whiteberry: lol lol
    Fael Illyar: meep meep! :)
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Riddle Sideways: silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly
    Pema Pera suspects that some of us are imbibing something else than coffee . . . .

    Storm Nordwind: 5 Bellas
    Zen Arado: yay
    Eliza Madrigal: How perfect! 5!
    Zen Arado: we won!
    Pema Pera: go, Bella!
    Wol Euler concedes defeat gracefully.
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Calvino Rabeni: How very pythagorean
    Yakuzza Lethecus: arg, vamireadmiring teenage girlnames won the vote
    Riddle Sideways: so "5 Bellas" = PentaBella

    2010.02.07 19:00 - Knowledge (of ?) Good and Evil

    Calvino Rabeni: The discussions here are free ranging. But it is based on an idea of "awareness"
    Hollie Massenberg: great
    Calvino Rabeni: So every 15 minutes there is a bell signal, and then people stop and just notice what they are aware of in the moment
    Calvino Rabeni: whether for inside themselves, or in the world around them
    Hollie Massenberg: interesting
    Calvino Rabeni: And then after that, the idea is, it can become part of the dialogue
    Calvino Rabeni: There are people from different philosophies and religions that come here, but there is no specific thing they think people should follow
    Hollie Massenberg: that's cool

    from the TSK book...
    Calvino Rabeni: "All ordinary sensing and knowing can be Great Knowledge, and *so can instances of confusion or of 'not-knowing'*"

    2010.02.08 07:00 - Icy Fingers, and Fear as Material

    SophiaSharon Larnia: this weekend did give a lot of opportunities to enjoy being in the moment
    Eliza Madrigal: It did?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    SophiaSharon Larnia: as the icy fingers spread across the windows

    Zen Arado: I hAgate-Mother_Mary-0009.jpgave a friend who has another friend who just lost a baby
    Zen Arado: a male friend said something like'we all have to go sometime'
    Eliza Madrigal: =/
    Zen Arado: totally tactless and she was very upset
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, well that seems just careless...
    Eliza Madrigal: Without love its all meaningless... all these teachings, etc
    Zen Arado: yes exactly


    Yakuzza Lethecus: theoratically we can edit the log
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, true Ya... though like today's it will be choppy
    Zen Arado: ot just not publish the log
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, always an option
    Eliza Madrigal: What may be difficult is that everyone has different boundaries for what they are comfortable sharing
    Zen Arado: or no one grab the log
    Eliza Madrigal: >gasp< anathema!

    2010.02.08 19:00 - Urban Markets and India Coffeehouse

    Eden Haiku: I'm in this incredible little shop few feet from the Ganges
    Storm Nordwind: wow!
    stevenaia Michinaga: awww, you traveling in India?
    doug Sosa: oh... grey sky grey water grey land?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yellow food
    Eden Haiku: Using wifi on my ipod touch sitting on a wall to wall white mattress with cushions
    doug Sosa: fro my time there twenty years ago, i can't imagine white.
    Eden Haiku: White is a wishful color yes..:)))
    Eden Haiku: Place is kind of clean though. They keep vacuuming...

    stevenaia Michinaga: interesting, the shadow of her pillow remains
    Storm Nordwind: or the cleaner has vacuumed up the bytes
    Storm Nordwind: All part of the magic Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: Alice's little rabbit hole here
    doug Sosa: curioser and curioser
    Storm Nordwind: Getting her here at all and in a stable reliable place is remarkably hard when she has no graphics and no way of sitting on anything
    Storm Nordwind: The shadow is part of it
    doug Sosa: well done. amazing.

    2010.02.09 07:00 - SL Silent

    Riddle Sideways: good morning, listening Master
    -- bell --
    Riddle Sideways: Many rains
    Riddle Sideways: have made the pond in the meadow
    Riddle Sideways: watching the Pair-o-Ducks and re-reading the logs about Paradox.

    Riddle Sideways: Play with Words. Play with Being. Being with Play. As
    Riddle Sideways: The layers of the onion / lotus
    Riddle Sideways: the layers of the reports from retreaters

    2010.02.09 13:00 - A thousand arms and a hundred poems

    Storm Nordwind: These are arms that reach to all sentient beings in compassion, to help them in dire need, and in
    - if they so wish - to help liberate them

    Bertram Jacobus: is kuan yin a hindu tradition ?
    Eliza Madrigal: When I think of a thousand arms I do think of compassion being 'effective'... working for the sake of others, without self 'consciousness' in the way
    Calvino Rabeni: Nice Eliza :)
    Storm Nordwind: Kuan Yin is the Chinese version of a Buddhist deity bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: ah. which buddhist deity please ? chenrezig ?
    Storm Nordwind: This was Avalokiteshvara originally
    Calvino Rabeni: When I "see" the thousand arms, the benevolence of such a capability strikes me
    Storm Nordwind: In India quan_yin_eight02.jpg
    Bertram Jacobus: okay. then i know. thanks
    Storm Nordwind: In Tibet he became Chenrezig
    Storm Nordwind: And in China he became Kuan Yin
    Storm Nordwind: But then about 1000 years ago he became a she
    Calvino Rabeni: But - that was the concept of Kwan Yin evolving through different cultures
    Storm Nordwind: And in Japan the now she became Kannon
    Storm Nordwind: After whom we get the name of the famous [optical/]electronics company!
    Storm Nordwind: I think the buddha behind this is the same. And he/she presents to each culture as best accepted by them it seems
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    arabella Ella: it is amazing how narratives tend to evolve often depending on geography
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes :)
    arabella Ella: and culture
    arabella Ella: could you tell us more about her Storm please?
    Storm Nordwind: My teacher told me that originally, a VERY long time ago, Avalokiteshvara was a pure practitioner called Bhikkshu Stainless One
    Storm Nordwind: Upon attaining buddhahood he manifested in many aspects including a thousand armed version that is very popular today

    Eliza Madrigal: I guess that for some Christians, Mother Mary evokes that kind of devotion...
    Zon Quar: hi liza
    Storm Nordwind: Many draw the parallel Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: There is an artist who makes Mary statues into figures of superheroes and all kinds of interesting 'modern' expressions...
    Eliza Madrigal: she's actually rather respectful in the way she does it.. can tell it comes from a place of fondness
    arabella Ella: ah ... now i see ... interesting ... a bit like a mother archetype to some extent
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    arabella Ella: how lovely ... and universal too

    For most of history, Anonymous was a woman.  - Virginia Woolf

    Eliza Madrigal: and considering that women's stories are so few comparatively...
    arabella Ella: yes
    Storm Nordwind: And yet she is no 'soft' deity. Though she is compassionate, she is massively powerful
    Eliza Madrigal: it seems there is a kind of concentration...
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes

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