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    Many thoughts pass through her mind like clouds in the sky: stratus, altostratus, cirrus, cumulus… words with no significance inherent to themselves… form guided by the space they swirl in.

    2010.03.19 01:00 - Blisters and butterflies

    Wol Euler: on the other hand, if that is the extent of your worries right now ... :)
    Calvino Rabeni: other than being on the slippery slope to oblivion, sure :)
    Wol Euler: well, yes, there is always that.

    2010.03.19 07:00 - Dreamy Bubbles

    Eden Haiku: I woke up feeling a lot of creative energy this morning, like in a bubble of it!

    Gaya Ethaniel: I like the image of creative bubbles.
    Eden Haiku: What was interesting about it is that I could sense the velocity of the energy, its quality.
    Gaya Ethaniel nods.

    Eden Haiku: And there was no aim to it, just bubbling! ….
    Gaya Ethaniel: Are the bubbles developing now?
    Eden Haiku: Still floating freely...
    Gaya Ethaniel wonders what will appear when they pop out!
    Eden Haiku: Poof!
    Gaya Ethaniel: lol

    2010.03.19 13:00 - A nice visitor from India, languages and a bit sillyness

    SophiaSharon Larnia: it seems to be a quiet session today :)
    Mohinder Ghiardie: ah yes
    Mohinder Ghiardie: nothing wrong with silence :)

    Mohinder Ghiardie: I have many questions :)

    Mohinder Ghiardie: ah, most questions we all have
    Mohinder Ghiardie: about the purpose of life
    Bleu Oleander: do you have any answers?
    Eden Haiku: ;-)
    Mohinder Ghiardie: why are there distinctive differences in races
    Mohinder Ghiardie: are the humans indigenous
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Mohinder Ghiardie: is there truth to reincarnation
    Mohinder Ghiardie: etcetera
    Mohinder Ghiardie: :)

    2010.03.19 19:00 Missing

    2010.03.20 01:00 - Translations

    Yakuzza Lethecus: scath, are you still learning tibetan ?
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes

    Scathach Rhiadra: I have some sutras in Tibetan, Samadhinirmocana Sutra, and the Dhammapada, so will be using them to practice translating
    Scathach Rhiadra: also have a meditation book with the Tibetan text, will be a good exercise to translate it
    Bertrum Quan: Does learning the language deepen your spiritual experience?
    Scathach Rhiadra: I think so, it means having to look deeper into the meaning of words and ideas, so you gain a greater understanding
    Yakuzza Lethecus: And i think learning a new language has always great synergetic effects for the own thinking.
    Scathach Rhiadra: you can get to see connections between different ideas or how they fit in the traditions, also context
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes Yakuzza
    Bertrum Quan: Translation is always very interesting and somewhat different from the original.

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i often think about the issue how different generations do not only new translations but also a different exegesis of the same old religious text depending on the changes a culture acquired
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes, it is interesting to see how different cultures handle translations and how it changes with time

    Scathach Rhiadra: and it is practice that really gets us to the essence, texts and teachings can only be pointers

    2010.03.20 0700 - Missing

    2010.03.20 13:00 -Welcome to PaB, Stop and have a bite

    Bertram Jacobus: yes. sry - felt silent ... and hello all :-)

    Zen Arado: wonders what it is like to feel silent
    Bertram Jacobus: it´s wonderful !
    Agatha Macbeth: Quiet?
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Bertram Jacobus: peace
    Zen Arado: I see
    Susi Alcott: and warmth
    Bertram Jacobus: yes

    Zen Arado: there is usually noise in the background no matter where you go
    arabella Ella: i was very surprised with the experience of the silent day during the retreat ... a very pleasant surprise
    arabella Ella: the only noise in the background was the humming of bees in the countryside
    Agatha Macbeth: Unfortunately yes Zen
    Susi Alcott: the silence is always inside one
    Zen Arado: yes ...the stillness
    Qt Core: i usually get more noise from inside than outside
    Bertram Jacobus: yess ara - that was really very nice ... :-)
    arabella Ella smiles
    Susi Alcott: -> Zen so might it be that you have experienced that often, but have not connected it to the word 'silence'
    Zen Arado: the word 'silence' refers to environmental noise for me
    Zen Arado: prefer 'stillness'

    Zen Arado: but the stillness can be there even if there is a lot of external noise
    Zen Arado: stillness inside
    Bertram Jacobus: agree
    Zen Arado: always there

    2010.03.20 19:00 - The YouTube/Wikipedia path to enlightenment

    Pila Mulligan: I Ching is the seminal Chinese philosophy
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I've heard of it
    Pila Mulligan: yin yang etc
    Agatha Macbeth: I thought it was some kind of divination process?
    Pila Mulligan: well, that is its reputation
    Pila Mulligan: but in fact it is deeper than that
    Agatha Macbeth: But here's more to it than that...
    Agatha Macbeth: yes I see
    Pila Mulligan: it is the repository and reflection of 6000 years of studying yin and yang
    Agatha Macbeth: So you can't tell people their fortune then? :)
    Pila Mulligan: oh, many people use it for that :)
    Pila Mulligan: not me :)
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Agatha Macbeth: Yin/yang is like Male/female?
    Pila Mulligan: yes, but again it goes deeper -- it is the insight into a dualism that pervades nature
    Agatha Macbeth: I see
    Pila Mulligan: a complementary duality
    Pila Mulligan: whole = sum of parts
    Agatha Macbeth: More like dark and light then?
    Pila Mulligan: yes, all those pairs are part of it
    Agatha Macbeth: Complimentary opposites
    Pila Mulligan: yep
    Agatha Macbeth: Got it
    Pila Mulligan: and then how they play together to make the 10,000 things
    Pila Mulligan: and old phrase for everythiing
    Agatha Macbeth: Why 10,000?
    Pila Mulligan: I'm not sure, probably at the time that was considered a humongous number

    2010.03.21 01:00 - Missing

    2010.03.21 07:00 - Only americans think they're Americans

    Bertram Jacobus: ok. thanks. sry for storming in here at this point of time please
    Yakuzza Lethecus: as if that would matter :)
    Bertram Jacobus: ty ..... :-))
    Bertram Jacobus sees yaku write but no text appears ...

    Yakuzza Lethecus: "you can never be late for being" or something :)

    2010.03.21 13:00 - Reincarnation and a lot more

    Coder Criss: so many thing you contemplate about during life, with ups and downs, then read it back in what you already thought about
    Coder Criss: so for me purely a recognition, a truth in the old wisdom

    Coder Criss: All in all i think that the real 'truth", if you may call it that way, is just beyond human comprehension

    Bleu Oleander: but for rebirth to be possible something must survive death
    Liza Deischer: in the end there is no concept, so what does that mean for reincarnation, being a concept itself
    Bleu Oleander: this leads to a body-mind dualism
    Coder Criss: separation
    Bleu Oleander: and the question of how can such an immaterial mind ever connect with a material body?
    Coder Criss: body mind separation you mean
    Liza Deischer: yes, I agree
    Bleu Oleander: I can not accept that my experience is divided into two spheres, one material and the other mental
    Liza Deischer: but you can also ask yourself what this body is
    Coder Criss: this is what i meant earlier that those things are beyond human comprehension, not everything can be explained with logic or science

    Coder Criss: Personally I have "truths" for myself which would explain reincarnation, but my logical sense tell me that this is not proof, which leads to saying that it is a belief, although a very strong one
    Bleu Oleander: beliefs are important to me if they heighten my sense of being fully alive in and responsive to this world
    Coder Criss: so ultimately, it does not matter how you call it, i think
    Liza Deischer: well, i replaced that by giving my teacher the benefit of the doubt until I know and understand myself

    2010.03.21 19:00 - A little drop by the pool

    Calvino Rabeni: I'm good - I was taking the time before anyone was here to "drop" things :)

    Paradise Tennant: in your reflections on dropping ..did you drop anything
    Calvino Rabeni: I dropped some "stuff" - not sure the word - associated with my schedule, and with physical pain
    Paradise Tennant: smiles

    Paradise Tennant: acupuncture works well for certain types of pain :) has been going on for a long time >
    Calvino Rabeni: I've tried stretching etc - helps a little - I want to do more with the awareness approach also before I go for the acupuncture etc. Probably because I like the Do It Yourself approach to things :)
    Paradise Tennant: nods ... lots to be learned from awareness :)
    Paradise Tennant: of all manner of experience .. :)

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