19 - 21 - Thoughts like Air

Many thoughts pass through her mind like clouds in the sky: stratus, altostratus, cirrus, cumulus… words with no significance inherent to themselves… form guided by the space they swirl in.

2010.03.19 01:00 - Blisters and butterflies

Wol Euler: on the other hand, if that is the extent of your worries right now ... :)
Calvino Rabeni: other than being on the slippery slope to oblivion, sure :)
Wol Euler: well, yes, there is always that.

2010.03.19 07:00 - Dreamy Bubbles

Eden Haiku: I woke up feeling a lot of creative energy this morning, like in a bubble of it!

Gaya Ethaniel: I like the image of creative bubbles.
Eden Haiku: What was interesting about it is that I could sense the velocity of the energy, its quality.
Gaya Ethaniel nods.

Eden Haiku: And there was no aim to it, just bubbling! ….
Gaya Ethaniel: Are the bubbles developing now?
Eden Haiku: Still floating freely...
Gaya Ethaniel wonders what will appear when they pop out!
Eden Haiku: Poof!
Gaya Ethaniel: lol

2010.03.19 13:00 - A nice visitor from India, languages and a bit sillyness

SophiaSharon Larnia: it seems to be a quiet session today :)
Mohinder Ghiardie: ah yes
Mohinder Ghiardie: nothing wrong with silence :)

Mohinder Ghiardie: I have many questions :)

Mohinder Ghiardie: ah, most questions we all have
Mohinder Ghiardie: about the purpose of life
Bleu Oleander: do you have any answers?
Eden Haiku: ;-)
Mohinder Ghiardie: why are there distinctive differences in races
Mohinder Ghiardie: are the humans indigenous
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
Mohinder Ghiardie: is there truth to reincarnation
Mohinder Ghiardie: etcetera
Mohinder Ghiardie: :)

2010.03.19 19:00 Missing

2010.03.20 01:00 - Translations

Yakuzza Lethecus: scath, are you still learning tibetan ?
Scathach Rhiadra: yes

Scathach Rhiadra: I have some sutras in Tibetan, Samadhinirmocana Sutra, and the Dhammapada, so will be using them to practice translating
Scathach Rhiadra: also have a meditation book with the Tibetan text, will be a good exercise to translate it
Bertrum Quan: Does learning the language deepen your spiritual experience?
Scathach Rhiadra: I think so, it means having to look deeper into the meaning of words and ideas, so you gain a greater understanding
Yakuzza Lethecus: And i think learning a new language has always great synergetic effects for the own thinking.
Scathach Rhiadra: you can get to see connections between different ideas or how they fit in the traditions, also context
Scathach Rhiadra: yes Yakuzza
Bertrum Quan: Translation is always very interesting and somewhat different from the original.

Yakuzza Lethecus: i often think about the issue how different generations do not only new translations but also a different exegesis of the same old religious text depending on the changes a culture acquired
Scathach Rhiadra: yes, it is interesting to see how different cultures handle translations and how it changes with time

Scathach Rhiadra: and it is practice that really gets us to the essence, texts and teachings can only be pointers

2010.03.20 0700 - Missing

2010.03.20 13:00 -Welcome to PaB, Stop and have a bite

Bertram Jacobus: yes. sry - felt silent ... and hello all :-)

Zen Arado: wonders what it is like to feel silent
Bertram Jacobus: it´s wonderful !
Agatha Macbeth: Quiet?
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Bertram Jacobus: peace
Zen Arado: I see
Susi Alcott: and warmth
Bertram Jacobus: yes

Zen Arado: there is usually noise in the background no matter where you go
arabella Ella: i was very surprised with the experience of the silent day during the retreat ... a very pleasant surprise
arabella Ella: the only noise in the background was the humming of bees in the countryside
Agatha Macbeth: Unfortunately yes Zen
Susi Alcott: the silence is always inside one
Zen Arado: yes ...the stillness
Qt Core: i usually get more noise from inside than outside
Bertram Jacobus: yess ara - that was really very nice ... :-)
arabella Ella smiles
Susi Alcott: -> Zen so might it be that you have experienced that often, but have not connected it to the word 'silence'
Zen Arado: the word 'silence' refers to environmental noise for me
Zen Arado: prefer 'stillness'

Zen Arado: but the stillness can be there even if there is a lot of external noise
Zen Arado: stillness inside
Bertram Jacobus: agree
Zen Arado: always there

2010.03.20 19:00 - The YouTube/Wikipedia path to enlightenment

Pila Mulligan: I Ching is the seminal Chinese philosophy
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I've heard of it
Pila Mulligan: yin yang etc
Agatha Macbeth: I thought it was some kind of divination process?
Pila Mulligan: well, that is its reputation
Pila Mulligan: but in fact it is deeper than that
Agatha Macbeth: But here's more to it than that...
Agatha Macbeth: yes I see
Pila Mulligan: it is the repository and reflection of 6000 years of studying yin and yang
Agatha Macbeth: So you can't tell people their fortune then? :)
Pila Mulligan: oh, many people use it for that :)
Pila Mulligan: not me :)
Agatha Macbeth grins
Agatha Macbeth: Yin/yang is like Male/female?
Pila Mulligan: yes, but again it goes deeper -- it is the insight into a dualism that pervades nature
Agatha Macbeth: I see
Pila Mulligan: a complementary duality
Pila Mulligan: whole = sum of parts
Agatha Macbeth: More like dark and light then?
Pila Mulligan: yes, all those pairs are part of it
Agatha Macbeth: Complimentary opposites
Pila Mulligan: yep
Agatha Macbeth: Got it
Pila Mulligan: and then how they play together to make the 10,000 things
Pila Mulligan: and old phrase for everythiing
Agatha Macbeth: Why 10,000?
Pila Mulligan: I'm not sure, probably at the time that was considered a humongous number

2010.03.21 01:00 - Missing

2010.03.21 07:00 - Only americans think they're Americans

Bertram Jacobus: ok. thanks. sry for storming in here at this point of time please
Yakuzza Lethecus: as if that would matter :)
Bertram Jacobus: ty ..... :-))
Bertram Jacobus sees yaku write but no text appears ...

Yakuzza Lethecus: "you can never be late for being" or something :)

2010.03.21 13:00 - Reincarnation and a lot more

Coder Criss: so many thing you contemplate about during life, with ups and downs, then read it back in what you already thought about
Coder Criss: so for me purely a recognition, a truth in the old wisdom

Coder Criss: All in all i think that the real 'truth", if you may call it that way, is just beyond human comprehension

Bleu Oleander: but for rebirth to be possible something must survive death
Liza Deischer: in the end there is no concept, so what does that mean for reincarnation, being a concept itself
Bleu Oleander: this leads to a body-mind dualism
Coder Criss: separation
Bleu Oleander: and the question of how can such an immaterial mind ever connect with a material body?
Coder Criss: body mind separation you mean
Liza Deischer: yes, I agree
Bleu Oleander: I can not accept that my experience is divided into two spheres, one material and the other mental
Liza Deischer: but you can also ask yourself what this body is
Coder Criss: this is what i meant earlier that those things are beyond human comprehension, not everything can be explained with logic or science

Coder Criss: Personally I have "truths" for myself which would explain reincarnation, but my logical sense tell me that this is not proof, which leads to saying that it is a belief, although a very strong one
Bleu Oleander: beliefs are important to me if they heighten my sense of being fully alive in and responsive to this world
Coder Criss: so ultimately, it does not matter how you call it, i think
Liza Deischer: well, i replaced that by giving my teacher the benefit of the doubt until I know and understand myself

2010.03.21 19:00 - A little drop by the pool

Calvino Rabeni: I'm good - I was taking the time before anyone was here to "drop" things :)

Paradise Tennant: in your reflections on dropping ..did you drop anything
Calvino Rabeni: I dropped some "stuff" - not sure the word - associated with my schedule, and with physical pain
Paradise Tennant: smiles

Paradise Tennant: acupuncture works well for certain types of pain :) has been going on for a long time >
Calvino Rabeni: I've tried stretching etc - helps a little - I want to do more with the awareness approach also before I go for the acupuncture etc. Probably because I like the Do It Yourself approach to things :)
Paradise Tennant: nods ... lots to be learned from awareness :)
Paradise Tennant: of all manner of experience .. :)