2018.11.19 07:00 - Thanksgiving wishes

The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.

Apocalyptic fires, caravans of migrants, hatred and snow 

Eden Haiku: Good morning Riddle!!
Riddle Sideways: good Morning, Eden
Riddle Sideways: is it skating time already?
Riddle Sideways: weeeeee, jumping for joy of skating
Eden Haiku: yep, snowing this morning!

--BELL--

Eden Haiku: How is your air quality now in California where you live?
Riddle Sideways: is fairly good here, a little hazy
Riddle Sideways: there are some mountains to block air flow
Eden Haiku: Ah, relieved to hear that...
Riddle Sideways: and ocean winds blow it cleaner here
Riddle Sideways: S.F. and bay area still have it bad
Eden Haiku: So many homeless people in the Bay area
Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: and dead
Eden Haiku: And dead...
Riddle Sideways: in fires
Riddle Sideways: right, so many live outside
Eden Haiku: And the moron blames it on a lack of raking...
Riddle Sideways: the smoky air is not just nice Pine ash
Riddle Sideways: such a stupid
Eden Haiku: And the caravan of migrants waiting to enter "the American paradise" in Tijuana...
Riddle Sideways: the air has all those petrolium toxins
Riddle Sideways: he is yelling about them invading us
Eden Haiku: Oh yes, all these fumes...
Riddle Sideways: to come kill US
Riddle Sideways: bringing their Gangs
Riddle Sideways: of 5 year olds
Eden Haiku: This man has no heart and no vocabulary...
Eden Haiku: gangs of 5 years old...
Riddle Sideways: nasty, bad, very bad, huge Bad gangs and druggies, very bad
Riddle Sideways: 5 year olds
Eden Haiku: all of them, nasty bunch ok kids...:)))
Riddle Sideways: Why don't they just stay in their country and be killed

Eden Haiku: When I opened the curtains this morning, huge flakes of snow were slowing descending like silence, like peace...
Riddle Sideways: Then, hear stories of how Canadians are grouping together to sponsor refugees
Riddle Sideways: nice peaceful image of pulling the curtain back to snow flake show
Eden Haiku: Some of us yes, but there is also a fear of migrants here too...
Riddle Sideways: no matter how low one is in society, caste, there has to be a group lower to hate, dispise, look Down at
Riddle Sideways: makes one better
Eden Haiku: It's odd isn'it that the world can be all of it: apocalyptic fires, distress of migrants, hatred and snow falling down quietly
Eden Haiku: Simultaneously
Riddle Sideways: However, to have a Head continue to point over somewhere else (away from the bad his is doing) to the group US should all gang up on and hate

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Things are a mess

Riddle Sideways: Yes! simultaneously carrying these 2 threads on in chat
Eden Haiku: Yes, and the media showing all his rallies and stupidities
Riddle Sideways: 'Should' be thinking peaceful
Riddle Sideways: thoughts
Eden Haiku: Hello joyfulleaping Adams!
Riddle Sideways: walking Adams passing Through
Riddle Sideways: Howdee Adams
Adams Rubble: Good morning Eden and Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: we were having 2 chat threads going simultaniously
Riddle Sideways: diametrically opposed
Eden Haiku: We were talking about the different threads of the very fabric of our lives; fires, distress of migrants, a moron blaming the lack of raking forests and snow falling peacefully...
Eden Haiku: curious to see what note Adams will throw into our mix so we can jam this morning session into something uplifting maybe :)
Riddle Sideways: The symbolism of "Paradise is Gone"
Eden Haiku: yes...
Adams Rubble: things are a mess
Adams Rubble: and the migrants being thwarted just when we need them to rake all of our forests
Eden Haiku: smiles sadly
Riddle Sideways: time to put on your ice skates, and sing, "Skating away, Skating away, on the thin ice of a new day"

100 prayers of Thanskgiving

Eden Haiku: And this week is about giving thanks in the United States...
Adams Rubble: we were at our town's annual interfaith thanksgiving service last night
Eden Haiku: snap!
Adams Rubble: it was very uplifting
Eden Haiku: listening
Adams Rubble: among the people there was an Indonesian Christian who had just been released after 11 months detention by ICE
Riddle Sideways: simultaneous uplift and downtrod
Adams Rubble: he had been picked up dropping his children off at school last January
Riddle Sideways: ICE
Adams Rubble: he got a standing ovation last night
Riddle Sideways: needs skates
Adams Rubble: ICE yes
Eden Haiku: Immigration C and then E...What is the acronym for exactly?
Adams Rubble: There were Christians, jews, Muslems, Sikhks, Hindus, Druze, the community chorus and a Klesmer band
Eden Haiku: wow!
Adams Rubble: One of the Jewish people talked about a practice that I think is in the Talmud( not sure)
Adams Rubble: 100 prayers of Thanksgiving each and every day
Adams Rubble: that comes out to one every 10 minutes
Adams Rubble: sound at all familiar?
Eden Haiku: oh! each and every day, 100...
Riddle Sideways: ah
Adams Rubble: we could be thanking every 10 minutes and meditating every 15
Eden Haiku: ;)
Adams Rubble: this would be a challenge for our techinically inclined PaBERs
Adams Rubble: come up with an app to keep track
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: No more time to mess up anything...
Adams Rubble has stopped to be thankful once since last night
Riddle Sideways: can't find the name
Adams Rubble: just 99 to go
Adams Rubble: Rabbi Luddich or something like that?
Riddle Sideways: Yet, can be replaced by One really true thankfulness
Eden Haiku: Thankful to be reminded of thankfullness Adams, thanks.
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: Ah, like this "one really true thankfulness".
Riddle Sideways: or grouped into 3 times of day
Eden Haiku: But then, which one to select?
Eden Haiku: I do say grace at meals :)
Adams Rubble: we humans are silly creatures and often forget unless we have some kind of practice
Adams Rubble: yes, grace at meals is a good one
Eden Haiku: Thinking about all these caravans of migrants everywhere on earth having no food and no water...
Adams Rubble: someone mentioned thankfulness after going to the bathroom that all bodily functions are working
Adams Rubble: they really got into thankfulness last night

--BELL--

Eden Haiku: ICE: Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Eden Haiku: Thank you Wikipedia :)
Eden Haiku: I knew they were the "bad guys" for immigrants but wasn't familiar with the whole acronym.
Adams Rubble forgets they do not have ICE in Canada
Adams Rubble: well not that kind of ICE
Eden Haiku: Not that kind no ...
Riddle Sideways: enforcing customs, seems a strange thing
Riddle Sideways: it is customary to say grace before meals, but it needs to be enforced
Eden Haiku: smiles
Adams Rubble: :)

Holiday celebrations

Eden Haiku: On a joyful note, we found a convenient day for everyone for our New Year brunch. It will be the Sunday 30th and all the 9 little ones will be there!
Eden Haiku: Some have to travel hundreds of miles from Ontario.
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: great
Riddle Sideways: 9 ! wow
Eden Haiku: Yes, I'm very happy about that. I see my brother's family from Ontario only once a year usually :(
Eden Haiku: We will be 23 in our small appartment, but we manage :)
Adams Rubble: distance is a problem for families
Eden Haiku: For Americams Thanksgivings is the most important holiday isn'it?
Riddle Sideways: not sure
Adams Rubble: July 4th
Adams Rubble: BOOOOMMMM
Riddle Sideways: Seems that Xmas lights are already up and glowing
Adams Rubble:The most traveling happens at Thanksgiving
Eden Haiku: In my French-Canadian family, the tradition was to celebrate New Year, so I stick to that even though we have to celebrate "around" New Year now :)
Riddle Sideways: the 12 days of New Years
Adams Rubble: New Year's was very important to some of my ancestors
Adams Rubble: my Yorkshire ones
Adams Rubble: but it came from further north
Eden Haiku: My 87 yo godmother used to come to but she doesn't drive anymore.
Riddle Sideways: why?
Eden Haiku: New Year was important for earlier settlers I think yes...

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Eden Haiku: Maybe because they were mostly farmers and there was more time to celebrate during the cold months of winter?
Riddle Sideways: lots of time to be inside looking out at the snow flakes
Riddle Sideways: baking something for hours to heat the house
Eden Haiku: and seeing people like was like seeing light and warmth :)
Riddle Sideways: a long sleigh ride, then mugs of mulled wine
Eden Haiku: I'm working simultaneously on two pieces of writing: a long poem in French and a nonfiction 2000 words piece in English and my mind sometimes switch from one language to the next, mixing the syntax.
Riddle Sideways: and the grand retelling of those great lies of yester years
Eden Haiku: Can't find my last year's resolution...
Adams Rubble: back, reading
Riddle Sideways: oh, would never write down nor keep a resolution about
Adams Rubble went away during the meditation break
Riddle Sideways: also, went mentally away during break
Eden Haiku: Pretty sure I didn't keep it....I would remember it wouldn’'t I?
Eden Haiku: Mentally where Riddle, care to share?
Riddle Sideways:Yorkshire
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: Ah, Adams ancestors are on our minds :))
Riddle Sideways: and the Google pages of 8 perfect places to celebrate NY eve in Yorkshire
Adams Rubble: the cold Irish winds sweeping across the black moors
Eden Haiku: Never been in Yorkshire, have you?
Adams Rubble: not me
Riddle Sideways: nope
Adams Rubble: made contingency plans about a month or two ago
Eden Haiku: Next Pab retreat in RL could be in Yorkshire :)
Adams Rubble: The Bronte Sisters
Eden Haiku: Have been making plans to travel to Cuba next winter and to Paris next Spring. Not made reservations yet though.
Eden Haiku: Unsure about France: the social climate is very difficult there right now,
Eden Haiku: And feeling guilty about taking the plane. Not ecological. But...
Eden Haiku: Wuthering Heights
Riddle Sideways: could take the slow Mayflower sail back to France
Eden Haiku: Our Mayflower was Le Petit Hermillon if I remember right, that would be an idea, a slow world, a carbon free world...

Sailing 

--BELL--

Riddle Sideways: and would get in great shape hoisting those yardurds and nautical thingies
Eden Haiku: L'Émérillon...Thanks to Wikipedia :)
Eden Haiku: Yes :)
Riddle Sideways: Wikipedia, giving all the facts ya need
Riddle Sideways: First star on the right and then on until Wuthering Heights
Eden Haiku: No WiFi on a sailboat of the past I'm afraid :(
Eden Haiku: Will have to detox
Riddle Sideways: ok, cross that off
Eden Haiku: Detox would be a good idea :)
Adams Rubble starts to get excited about sailing
Eden Haiku: From WiFi I mean. No need to detox from marijuana. Ordered some online the day it became legal but it's in a drawer somewhere, until we find time to spend time or going back to our twenties :)
Eden Haiku: Do you sail in RL Adams?
Adams Rubble: only mentally
Eden Haiku: laughs
Riddle Sideways: a great way to go
Eden Haiku: You have so cute sailor outfits!
Eden Haiku: My brother who lives in Ontario is a sailor.
Eden Haiku: He's so happy sailing!
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: He used to be an officer in the Canadian Coast Guard but he is now retired and sails just for the pleasure.
Eden Haiku: It was his dream when he was about 5, I remember,
Eden Haiku: It puzzled me because he had never seen the ocean
Adams Rubble: :)

What we dreamed as a child

Eden Haiku: Did you become what you dreamed of as a child?
Riddle Sideways: yes, Peter Pan
Adams Rubble: always wanted to be Adams Rubble :)
Adams Rubble giggles
Eden Haiku: Peter Pan!
Riddle Sideways: no, one of the Lost Boys
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: And Adams Rubble, you were quite advanced as a child to have dreamt up such a scheme Adams!
Adams Rubble: I don’t want to grow up
Eden Haiku: *dreamed or dreamt? [dreamt it is!]
Riddle Sideways: nope, not going grow up
Adams Rubble wonders about the lost girls
Eden Haiku: Be reassured Riddle, you sound very youthful :)
Riddle Sideways: ha, the Lost Girls are in that other story
Eden Haiku: the lost boys of Peter Pan and the lost girls????
Riddle Sideways: would any of us had dreamt up what is now common?
Adams Rubble: Petra Pan
Riddle Sideways: giggles
Eden Haiku: Petra Pan hehe, no Riddle, this dream was unexpected
Adams Rubble: I did not know about what became my career until i was in graduate school
Eden Haiku: A virtual life!
Riddle Sideways:through a Computer

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A little rant about learning English

Riddle Sideways: simultaniously writing in 2 languages
Eden Haiku: Yes, English used to be the language of secrets my parents used. I was swift to learn :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: Always been curious of secrets.
Riddle Sideways: ㋡
Eden Haiku: They were about going to the movies and having my grandma babysitting but I loved their secrets. I was always prepared.:)
Adams Rubble: Were the movies in French or English?
Eden Haiku: No, I'm making this up. I didn't start learning English until I was in grade 5 and I never knew what they talked about. They almost did'nt speak the language themselves.
Adams Rubble: :)
Eden Haiku: Movies were in French: they didn't really speak English. Just a few words I think.
Eden Haiku: My burning motivation to learn the language was that my father got fired many times because he couldn't understand the English foreman on the construction site. He worked as a carpenter.
Adams Rubble: ohhhh
Adams Rubble: :(
Eden Haiku: Yeah, it was terrible in those days. French-Canadians were always bossed around by English foremen. No unions then.
Eden Haiku: His life changed around 1967 when they got a union and the whole Quebec was going through a "quiet revolution",
Adams Rubble: I remember hearing about that
Eden Haiku: Sorry, I'm getting talkative and it is getting late...
Adams Rubble: a long time until bed time
Riddle Sideways: ha
Eden Haiku: Late in the morning :)I guess it's not quite the right wording?
Eden Haiku: Are you going to fire me?
Adams Rubble: hehe. me just being silly
Eden Haiku: LOL
Riddle Sideways: seems to be time to round up dirty cloths to make them clean
Eden Haiku: I knew :)
Riddle Sideways: there is a machine that does that
Adams Rubble: I don’t know enough French to fire you
Adams Rubble: if i wanted to
Eden Haiku: And to start cleaning my mess before my guests arrive in a month or so :))
Riddle Sideways: a month to clean?

Probably no Thanksgiving session on Thursday but Thanksgiving wishes!

Adams Rubble: I am not sure about my Thanksgiving session yet. If anyone wants to come let me know
Riddle Sideways: oh, right, looking around at this Pit that has to be ready as a guest room
Eden Haiku: I have to sort out all my clothes, wardrobes and drawers and have been procrastinating for months now...
Adams Rubble doesn't have anything important to do today
Riddle Sideways: am under contract as a laborer Thursday
Riddle Sideways: will miss it
Adams Rubble: ohhh
Eden Haiku: Wow, Adams, and you are doing so many things!!!
Adams Rubble: OK, maybe we will take a walk that morning
Adams Rubble: It is cold here early this year
Adams Rubble: puts some meaning into "shiver me timbers"
Eden Haiku:I will be missing again Adams, been too busy with my writing projects lately.
Eden Haiku: We jumped into winter without any "Indian summer" and no proper autumn.
Adams Rubble: just not right
Adams Rubble wants some of that global warming about now
Eden Haiku: Climate is an emergency
Adams Rubble: yes
Eden Haiku: And we are paralysed
Riddle Sideways: things are just not normal
Adams Rubble: we had a nice autumn but cold
Adams Rubble: brrrrr
Riddle Sideways: need some enforcement of customs
Adams Rubble: and an early snowstorm that let to statewide gridlock
Riddle Sideways: oh, yes heard of that

--BELL--

Eden Haiku: Yes, enforcement of customs. Like recycling, cycling, no more pipelines.
Adams Rubble: here here
Riddle Sideways: Brother-in-law had to abandon car and walk the last half mile
Adams Rubble: ohhh
Adams Rubble had a meeting three miles away and it took an hour to drive home
Riddle Sideways: in NJ
Eden Haiku: Early for a big snowstorm in the East...abnormality again.
Adams Rubble: noreaster
Riddle Sideways: ok, y'all off mit ya and get on it
Adams Rubble: I hope all your chores go well
Riddle Sideways: raise the mainsail
Eden Haiku: Thank you so much for attending Riddle and Adams. Always delighted to have a Monday conversation with you.
Adams Rubble: nice ice skating moves Eden
Eden Haiku: And a very happy Thanksgiving on Thursday!
Riddle Sideways:giving thanks for your presence
Adams Rubble: Thank you Eden
Adams Rubble: and Riddle
Eden Haiku: Eliza pointed to that KHAO, I love it!
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: by all
Adams Rubble: bye