07-09 - Bellas
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No headersI can't help but notice a distinctly feminine touch in the sessions from these days, as "Bella" is named, as a mother's loss is acknowledged, as Eden visits, with Alice. At last, a session about Kuan Yin, into which she seems to bring Mary and Guadalupe too. :)
-Eliza
2010.02.07 01:00 - Still asleep?
Liza Deischer: I just woke up, I'm not such a good sleeper I'm afraid
Liza Deischer: and I thought, just in time for the morningsession
Liza Deischer: morning to me :-)
Stargate Tone: to us too *
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Bertram Jacobus: hello everybody ! ... :-))
Liza Deischer: it brings me back to church :-)
2010.02.07 07:00 - Should I? Wings?
Fael Illyar: I find it best to just accept the things you can't help and concentrate on something you can help :)
Agatha Macbeth: I agree Fael :)
Lia Rikugun: yes, the challenge is to find out what you can change :)
Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, to be interested isn´t the issue to drop the thought about it
Fael Illyar: yes... it's also possible to accept that you can't do anything about it right now and move to doing something you can.
Agatha Macbeth: nods
Agatha Macbeth: Wings are the cure for bad news! :)
2010.02.07 08:00 - Guardian Session: 5 "Bella"s and a Tip Jar
Pema Pera: Storm, have you envisioned a way to herd the cat namers?
Storm Nordwind: We had Being, Beir, Bella, Bodhiguard, Fiver, Lila, Mehitabel, Schrödinger, Sleepy, Snoozy,
Spark plug plus we've just had Meep and there's also Bell
Pema Pera: and pentabel
Riddle Sideways: filled with An Tici pation
Wol Euler: recount!
Storm Nordwind: a recount has been called...
Wol Euler: O.O
Storm Nordwind: meanwhile we will play you some boring music
Eliza Madrigal: o.O
Warm Cookie whispers: OMG... YUMMMMMMY
Pema Pera: do we have a Supreme PaB Court?
Wol Euler: I'm sure we can buy one somewhere...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Storm Nordwind: No Pema... but we have a supreme cat
Eliza Madrigal: badump bump
arabella Ella: :)
Pema Pera: Yak Yak has spoken!
Widget Whiteberry: lol lol
Fael Illyar: meep meep! :)
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Riddle Sideways: silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly silly
Pema Pera suspects that some of us are imbibing something else than coffee . . . .
Storm Nordwind: 5 Bellas
Zen Arado: yay
Eliza Madrigal: How perfect! 5!
Zen Arado: we won!
Pema Pera: go, Bella!
Wol Euler concedes defeat gracefully.
Fael Illyar smiles.
Calvino Rabeni: How very pythagorean
Yakuzza Lethecus: arg, vamireadmiring teenage girlnames won the vote
Riddle Sideways: so "5 Bellas" = PentaBella
2010.02.07 19:00 - Knowledge (of ?) Good and Evil
Calvino Rabeni: The discussions here are free ranging. But it is based on an idea of "awareness"
Hollie Massenberg: great
Calvino Rabeni: So every 15 minutes there is a bell signal, and then people stop and just notice what they are aware of in the moment
Calvino Rabeni: whether for inside themselves, or in the world around them
Hollie Massenberg: interesting
Calvino Rabeni: And then after that, the idea is, it can become part of the dialogue
Calvino Rabeni: There are people from different philosophies and religions that come here, but there is no specific thing they think people should follow
Hollie Massenberg: that's cool
from the TSK book...
Calvino Rabeni: "All ordinary sensing and knowing can be Great Knowledge, and *so can instances of confusion or of 'not-knowing'*"
2010.02.08 07:00 - Icy Fingers, and Fear as Material
SophiaSharon Larnia: this weekend did give a lot of opportunities to enjoy being in the moment
Eliza Madrigal: It did?
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
SophiaSharon Larnia: as the icy fingers spread across the windows
Zen Arado: I h
ave a friend who has another friend who just lost a baby
Zen Arado: a male friend said something like'we all have to go sometime'
Eliza Madrigal: =/
Zen Arado: totally tactless and she was very upset
Eliza Madrigal: yes, well that seems just careless...
Eliza Madrigal: Without love its all meaningless... all these teachings, etc
Zen Arado: yes exactly
Yakuzza Lethecus: theoratically we can edit the log
Eliza Madrigal: yes, true Ya... though like today's it will be choppy
Zen Arado: ot just not publish the log
Eliza Madrigal: yes, always an option
Eliza Madrigal: What may be difficult is that everyone has different boundaries for what they are comfortable sharing
Zen Arado: or no one grab the log
Eliza Madrigal: >gasp< anathema!
2010.02.08 19:00 - Urban Markets and India Coffeehouse
Eden Haiku: I'm in this incredible little shop few feet from the Ganges
Storm Nordwind: wow!
stevenaia Michinaga: awww, you traveling in India?
doug Sosa: oh... grey sky grey water grey land?
stevenaia Michinaga: yellow food
Eden Haiku: Using wifi on my ipod touch sitting on a wall to wall white mattress with cushions
doug Sosa: fro my time there twenty years ago, i can't imagine white.
Eden Haiku: White is a wishful color yes..:)))
Eden Haiku: Place is kind of clean though. They keep vacuuming...
stevenaia Michinaga: interesting, the shadow of her pillow remains
Storm Nordwind: or the cleaner has vacuumed up the bytes
Storm Nordwind: All part of the magic Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: Alice's little rabbit hole here
doug Sosa: curioser and curioser
Storm Nordwind: Getting her here at all and in a stable reliable place is remarkably hard when she has no graphics and no way of sitting on anything
Storm Nordwind: The shadow is part of it
doug Sosa: well done. amazing.
Riddle Sideways: good morning, listening Master
-- bell --
Riddle Sideways: Many rains
Riddle Sideways: have made the pond in the meadow
Riddle Sideways: watching the Pair-o-Ducks and re-reading the logs about Paradox.
Riddle Sideways: Play with Words. Play with Being. Being with Play. As
Riddle Sideways: The layers of the onion / lotus
Riddle Sideways: the layers of the reports from retreaters
2010.02.09 13:00 - A thousand arms and a hundred poems
Storm Nordwind: These are arms that reach to all sentient beings in compassion, to help them in dire need, and in
- if they so wish - to help liberate them
Bertram Jacobus: is kuan yin a hindu tradition ?
Eliza Madrigal: When I think of a thousand arms I do think of compassion being 'effective'... working for the sake of others, without self 'consciousness' in the way
Calvino Rabeni: Nice Eliza :)
Storm Nordwind: Kuan Yin is the Chinese version of a Buddhist deity bertram
Bertram Jacobus: ah. which buddhist deity please ? chenrezig ?
Storm Nordwind: This was Avalokiteshvara originally
Calvino Rabeni: When I "see" the thousand arms, the benevolence of such a capability strikes me
Storm Nordwind: In India 
Bertram Jacobus: okay. then i know. thanks
Storm Nordwind: In Tibet he became Chenrezig
Storm Nordwind: And in China he became Kuan Yin
Storm Nordwind: But then about 1000 years ago he became a she
Calvino Rabeni: But - that was the concept of Kwan Yin evolving through different cultures
Storm Nordwind: And in Japan the now she became Kannon
Storm Nordwind: After whom we get the name of the famous [optical/]electronics company!
Storm Nordwind: I think the buddha behind this is the same. And he/she presents to each culture as best accepted by them it seems
Eliza Madrigal nods
arabella Ella: it is amazing how narratives tend to evolve often depending on geography
Calvino Rabeni: Yes :)
arabella Ella: and culture
arabella Ella: could you tell us more about her Storm please?
Storm Nordwind: My teacher told me that originally, a VERY long time ago, Avalokiteshvara was a pure practitioner called Bhikkshu Stainless One
Storm Nordwind: Upon attaining buddhahood he manifested in many aspects including a thousand armed version that is very popular today
Eliza Madrigal: I guess that for some Christians, Mother Mary evokes that kind of devotion...
Zon Quar: hi liza
Storm Nordwind: Many draw the parallel Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: There is an artist who makes Mary statues into figures of superheroes and all kinds of interesting 'modern' expressions...
Eliza Madrigal: she's actually rather respectful in the way she does it.. can tell it comes from a place of fondness
arabella Ella: ah ... now i see ... interesting ... a bit like a mother archetype to some extent
Eliza Madrigal nods
arabella Ella: how lovely ... and universal too
For most of history, Anonymous was a woman. - Virginia Woolf
Eliza Madrigal: and considering that women's stories are so few comparatively...
arabella Ella: yes
Storm Nordwind: And yet she is no 'soft' deity. Though she is compassionate, she is massively powerful
Eliza Madrigal: it seems there is a kind of concentration...
Eliza Madrigal: hmm
Calvino Rabeni: Yes