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    2009.07.22 01:00 - Me & the Birds

    http://playasbeing.wik.is/index.php?title=Chat_Logs/2009/07/2009.07.22_-_01:00_-_Me_%26_the_Birds 


    No one came, no one left, no one wept and no one laughed. All in all a very quiet night, apart from the rain falling outside my balcony door!  - Tarmel




    2009.07.22 07:00 - Languages & Cultures of Kindness

    http://playasbeing.wik.is/index.php?title=Chat_Logs/2009/07/2009.07.22_-_Languages_%26_Cultures_of_Kindness 

    Eliza Madrigal: Usually I wake up thinking about something... a theme for the day. Today it is kindness :) 

    Eliza Madrigal: The reason I thought about kindness this morning, is that in the Harry Potter film (cant remember if the line was in the book), 
    sophia Placebo: i was really angry , then i played with a kid and angry feelings fade away 
    Eliza Madrigal: That will do it :) 
    Eliza Madrigal: At one point in the film Dumbledore tells Harry that he is unfailingly kind, and remarks that it is a quality not appreciated by most... 
    Eliza Madrigal: And this morning I read an article to the same effect.

    The article itself is interesting in a few places, but mostly common sense.   http://www.thesmartset.com/article/article07080901.aspx 

        

    Eliza Madrigal: The article mentioned that people, especially on the internet, can get used to an echo chamber of sorts, and fail to hear or tolerate other ideas 
    sophia Placebo: one saying here is - who would need to opress except the weak 
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, like that! 
    Eliza Madrigal: So bullying is born of insecurity and a feeling of weakness 
    sophia Placebo: i liked the echo chamber image 
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, because we think of the internet as being this 'open' slate.... 
    Eliza Madrigal: but people make it what they want, in a sense 
    Eliza Madrigal: we all do 
    sophia Placebo: true 
    Eliza Madrigal: So it seems there needs to be an intention toward openness, which does seem to require something like kindness to operate 
    Eliza Madrigal: Otherwise we end up with a more rude society, which would be ironic considering the vast potential of the internet 

        

    Sophia Placebo: newtin said that for each act there is a counter act , equal in maltitude oppiste in direction right ? 
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, eys cause and effect 
    Eliza Madrigal: *yes 
    sophia Placebo: kindess is the same , it is an act and its effect is a counter act to you or to thers 
    Eliza Madrigal: hm, yes. So you believe it has effects even if they are not immediately seen? 
    sophia Placebo: sure 
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, I do too 
    Eliza Madrigal: At least that is the way I try to live... 
    sophia Placebo: but i wouldnt wait or look for that effect 
    Eliza Madrigal smiles 
    sophia Placebo: i wouldnt even expect a pay back kind of thing 

       

    Eliza Madrigal: Sophia made an interesting point : i think kindness if applyed as a mean for social openess it would become like a manner or tradition , but if kindness precived as philosophy or as concept accepted and appreciated indivisually then yes it would make a diffrence 
    sophia Placebo: and eliza asked :[7:32] Eliza Madrigal: hm, yes. Anytime we try to capture something and set it up as a 'standard' it can lose some value? 

       

    Pema Pera: yes, I can see that -- it is much better if everyone (or even some people) would try to be personally engaged rather than following rules 
    Eliza Madrigal nods 
    Pema Pera: but even so, rules can have a very positive influence 
    Pema Pera: I'm always reminded of that, when I visit Japan 
    Eliza Madrigal: yes? 
    Eliza Madrigal: As in manners and a general expectation? 
    Pema Pera: In a Starbucks in Japan, the people behind the cash register look you in the eye, they smile, they pay attention, they really are there and willing to communicate 
    Eliza Madrigal: That makes a difference, I'd imagine, in the whole day 
    Pema Pera: and when I go back to New York, half the time those people in the same role are looking at their co-workers and continuing their conversation while ignoring their client even though they are counting out the money for them 

    Pema Pera: always a shock that lasts a few days before I get used to it again . . . . 

      

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