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No one came, no one left, no one wept and no one laughed. All in all a very quiet night, apart from the rain falling outside my balcony door! - Tarmel
Eliza Madrigal: Usually I wake up thinking about something... a theme for the day. Today it is kindness :)
Eliza Madrigal: The reason I thought about kindness this morning, is that in the Harry Potter film (cant remember if the line was in the book),
sophia Placebo: i was really angry , then i played with a kid and angry feelings fade away
Eliza Madrigal: That will do it :)
Eliza Madrigal: At one point in the film Dumbledore tells Harry that he is unfailingly kind, and remarks that it is a quality not appreciated by most...
Eliza Madrigal: And this morning I read an article to the same effect.
The article itself is interesting in a few places, but mostly common sense. http://www.thesmartset.com/article/article07080901.aspx
Eliza Madrigal: The article mentioned that people, especially on the internet, can get used to an echo chamber of sorts, and fail to hear or tolerate other ideas
sophia Placebo: one saying here is - who would need to opress except the weak
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, like that!
Eliza Madrigal: So bullying is born of insecurity and a feeling of weakness
sophia Placebo: i liked the echo chamber image
Eliza Madrigal: yes, because we think of the internet as being this 'open' slate....
Eliza Madrigal: but people make it what they want, in a sense
Eliza Madrigal: we all do
sophia Placebo: true
Eliza Madrigal: So it seems there needs to be an intention toward openness, which does seem to require something like kindness to operate
Eliza Madrigal: Otherwise we end up with a more rude society, which would be ironic considering the vast potential of the internet
Sophia Placebo: newtin said that for each act there is a counter act , equal in maltitude oppiste in direction right ?
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, eys cause and effect
Eliza Madrigal: *yes
sophia Placebo: kindess is the same , it is an act and its effect is a counter act to you or to thers
Eliza Madrigal: hm, yes. So you believe it has effects even if they are not immediately seen?
sophia Placebo: sure
Eliza Madrigal: yes, I do too
Eliza Madrigal: At least that is the way I try to live...
sophia Placebo: but i wouldnt wait or look for that effect
Eliza Madrigal smiles
sophia Placebo: i wouldnt even expect a pay back kind of thing
Eliza Madrigal: Sophia made an interesting point : i think kindness if applyed as a mean for social openess it would become like a manner or tradition , but if kindness precived as philosophy or as concept accepted and appreciated indivisually then yes it would make a diffrence
sophia Placebo: and eliza asked :[7:32] Eliza Madrigal: hm, yes. Anytime we try to capture something and set it up as a 'standard' it can lose some value?
Pema Pera: yes, I can see that -- it is much better if everyone (or even some people) would try to be personally engaged rather than following rules
Pema Pera: always a shock that lasts a few days before I get used to it again . . . .
sophia Placebo: the spirit of that joy is still living in Japanese culture ?
Pema Pera: but it's part of their gestures, like shaking hands, I'm sure they don't think about it, but I'm equally sure they do feel it
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