The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.
Bleu Oleander's current display-name is "Bleu".
Bleu Oleander: hi Eden!
Eden Haiku: HI BLEU :)
Bleu Oleander: how are you this morning?
Eden Haiku: good. You?
Bleu Oleander: very good
Eden Haiku: No need for shoes here, I like that :)
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Bleu Oleander: refreshing to dangle your feet in the water :)
Eden Haiku: yes!
Bleu Oleander: we had a lovely classical guitar concert last night
Bleu Oleander: in a historic adobe mansion
Bleu Oleander: was so nice
Eden Haiku: Oh! Who was the artist?
Bleu Oleander: an Arizona artist
Bleu Oleander: he's been doing salons for our group for many years
Eden Haiku: In an ancient mansiom, miust have been inspiring...
Bleu Oleander: it was!
Bleu Oleander: nice for a warm AZ evening
Eden Haiku: Music cools the air sometimes:)
Bleu Oleander: http://www.chrisdorseyguitar.com/
Bleu Oleander: some nice samples on his website
Eden Haiku: Thanks for the link. Will look it up later.
Bleu Oleander: what are you up to today?
Eden Haiku: Stalking the deer? hehe...
Bleu Oleander: :)
--BELL--
Eden Haiku: No, really. Preparing for visitors later this week.
Bleu Oleander: ah nice
Eden Haiku: Deer are just part of our daily life now. We stop everything and follow them in the nearby woods;)
Bleu Oleander: fun!
Eden Haiku: I hjope they will come when my 4 year old great-niece and her 10 months old brother will be staying with us :)
Bleu Oleander: we have coyotes near us, but we don't follow them :)
Bleu Oleander: oh yes that would be fun for them
Eden Haiku: I followed them with two litle girls (silent little girls) and with was so much fun. The magic!
Bleu Oleander: lovely
Eden Haiku: IT.s like stepping into another reality...
Bleu Oleander: I can imagine
Bleu Oleander: we have a salon the the literary genre of noir ... how do you understand that?
Eden Haiku: Sorry for all the moving around. Trying to find the right posture. The 1st one was the best. Can't find it anymore ;)
Eden Haiku: Noir...
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eden Haiku: Ah, detective stories, dark fantastic stories maybe?
Eden Haiku: Rather fantastic I would think
Eden Haiku: Like gothic with a twist...
(Sounds Good)
Bleu Oleander: yes i'm looking forward to hearing about it
Bleu Oleander: 18th century I think
Eden Haiku: A castle by a stormy night, a maiden in her nightrobe floating over the pond...
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eden Haiku: She's the ghots
Eden Haiku: ghist
Eden Haiku: ghost of an ancestor...
Bleu Oleander: reading the Aeneid now ... speaking of ghosts of ancestors :)
Where's Hamlet when you need him?
Eden Haiku: Who will be your guests at this salon?
Bleu Oleander: he's is a writer and professor
Eden Haiku: Oh yes, I saw that you wreer reading classics.
Eden Haiku: Great!
Bleu Oleander: I love reading about the ancient Greeks and Romans
Bleu Oleander: not so different from people today!
Bleu Oleander: such a wonderful scene where Aeneas and Queen Dido are parting!
Eden Haiku: From the Aeneid I remember Énée, Didon, Carthaghe,,,he left from Sicily to found Rome, maybe? that's from long time ago...When I was studying latin...
Bleu Oleander: "the gods made him do it" :)
Bleu Oleander: yes, that's right
Eden Haiku: Ah yes: junction bteween noir stories and the classis: I didn,t do it :)
Bleu Oleander: leaves Troy with his father on his scholders and holding his son's hand
Eden Haiku: his father on his shoulders, yes,...
Bleu Oleander: the classics are great really, I have a new appreciation for them
Bleu Oleander: a few great classes online too
Eden Haiku: Wonderful! It's a Coursera you take?
Bleu Oleander: one from Stanford and one from Harvard enhance my reading a lot
Bleu Oleander: edx.org and itunes U
Eden Haiku: Wow! I admire your curious mind Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: the harvard class is great
Bleu Oleander: I got his book too, "The ancient greek hero in 24 hours"
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: we have a salon later this week on happiness ... he will discuss the relationship of human well being and happiness with sustainability
Bleu Oleander: following my curiosity and learning gives me much happiness actually
Eden Haiku: Happiness in the long term...
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: our guide is a scholar and researcher at the Institute of Sustainability, at ASU
Bleu Oleander: I've very curious to hear what he has to say
Bleu Oleander: hey Aggers!
Eden Haiku: Agatha :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hi kiddywinks
Agatha Macbeth: How goes it?
Bleu Oleander: goes pretty good, you?
Agatha Macbeth: I is pretty good
Agatha Macbeth: Just wish it would stop raining
Bleu Oleander: and I wish it would start!!!
Eden Haiku: oh :(
Agatha Macbeth: You need some of ours
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Eden Haiku: There was a mist this morning, fall is sneaking in...
Bleu Oleander: we are in a severe draught in all the sw US
Agatha Macbeth: Weren't there a lot of fires where Aph is?
Agatha Macbeth: I seem to remember
Eden Haiku: That's terrible. The land cannot sustain such dryness for so long...
Bleu Oleander: :) drought
Bleu Oleander: many fires in the NW
Agatha Macbeth: Weird. All I think of with Canada is snow :p
Bleu Oleander: ha yes
Eden Haiku: Not ALL the time Agatha :)
Agatha Macbeth: Seems so
Eden Haiku: It can be very hot and humid in the summers.
Agatha Macbeth nods
Eden Haiku: The forest of the West are really endangered by all the fires...
Bleu Oleander: and many homes too
Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
Eden Haiku: And many homes too yes...
Agatha Macbeth: This climate thing is a weird business
Bleu Oleander: animal habitats will be destroyed too
Eden Haiku: It's 4000 thousands miles from where I live and I don't watch the news much...but I heard about it online :)
Bleu Oleander: yes
Agatha Macbeth: I seem to remember Wol saying the west of Canda has a better climate than the east
Bleu Oleander: I've not been to Canada
Eden Haiku: Yes, milder in the West. No harsh winters,
Agatha Macbeth: Yep, right
Agatha Macbeth: Odd to think the UK is on a similar latitude
Eden Haiku: You should come to Quebec Bleu. It's a French territory in North Amarica :)
Bleu Oleander: I would love to do that sometime
Bleu Oleander: is it far from NYC?
Eden Haiku: Not far. One hour flight,, 7 hours drive.
Eden Haiku: By train, it takes forever...
Eden Haiku: Like 11 or 12 hours...
Bleu Oleander: we might combine that with our NYC trips sometime
Agatha Macbeth loves trains
Bleu Oleander: I love trains too, but not for 12 hours :)
Eden Haiku: European trains are wonderful. Not over here. They are very slow... with no service at all...
Bleu Oleander: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Bleu Oleander: too bad really
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it's a zen thing
Bleu Oleander: lol
Eden Haiku: remmebers a wonderful night train from the Lake Districts in England back to London.
Agatha Macbeth: The journey is more important than the destination
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eden Haiku: The sun would never set...
--BELL--
Agatha Macbeth: Oh the lake district is wonderful
Agatha Macbeth: Very unspoilt
Agatha Macbeth: Has a kind of purity about it, much like Scotland
Eden Haiku: You live in the north of England Agatha don,t you?
Agatha Macbeth: More in the Midlands
Agatha Macbeth: Staffordshire
Agatha Macbeth: But the north of Britain is a lovely place
Eden Haiku: Ah! Thanks.
Bleu Oleander: lots of forests?
Eden Haiku: I know it gets dark early in fall over there...but in summer you have looong night right?
Agatha Macbeth: Not as many as there used to be
Eden Haiku: loong days I mean:0
Agatha Macbeth: We have looong days and looong nights :p
Eden Haiku: Wjhen I was living in ULverston, it wpuld start getting dark at 11 at night (in June)
Agatha Macbeth: Days are looonger at this time of year
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Eden Haiku: Amazing!
Agatha Macbeth: Further north you go the longer the days are
Eden Haiku: Ah, because of the latitude yes..
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: I would love to see the midnight sun someday
Bleu Oleander: sounds romantic
Agatha Macbeth: Need to be in the Arctic circle for that :p
Agatha Macbeth: Way N of here
Eden Haiku: On this night train, I marveled at the sheep and the green fields but had to give up at 9h30 pm, too sleepy. It was like not even sunset yet...
Agatha Macbeth: Mm
Agatha Macbeth: What's the latest it gets dark where you are Edie?
Eden Haiku: Around 9 p,, 9h15pm around Summer solstice. Then, it's all the way down. About 8h15 now...
Agatha Macbeth: Ohh
Bleu Oleander: similar to where I am
Bleu Oleander: 9pm about the latest
Agatha Macbeth: Must be odd living on the equator...
Agatha Macbeth: No seasons
Agatha Macbeth: All days of equal length
Bleu Oleander: we have two seasons ... hot and not so hot :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Eden Haiku: I rememebr visisting my grandma on June 21st when I was a teenager. She said: "fron now on, it's going they get darker sooner every day..." She was a pragmatic woman :)
Agatha Macbeth: Glass half empty
Eden Haiku: Indeed!
Agatha Macbeth: Aren't you from NY originally Bleuji?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Thought so
Bleu Oleander: big cultural shift
Agatha Macbeth: I remember you saying
Agatha Macbeth: I can imagine
Eden Haiku: How old were you when you moved to Arizona?
Bleu Oleander: after college
Bleu Oleander: flipped back and forth a number of times
Bleu Oleander: I love the city
Bleu Oleander: but do enjoy what we do here
Bleu Oleander: and the arizona sunsets
Eden Haiku: Ahhh!
Bleu Oleander: the colors are wonderful here and the light
Bleu Oleander: for an artist
Bleu Oleander: has changed my color palette
Eden Haiku: Must be inspiring yes! And there are many artists in Phoenix I would think...
Bleu Oleander: there are
Bleu Oleander: although not a great art scene atm
Eden Haiku: Interesting that it changed your color palette
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: more earth tones
Eden Haiku: You were more "noir" back then I suppose :)
Bleu Oleander: and more blue
Bleu Oleander: ha ha yes
Eden Haiku: More sky!
Agatha Macbeth: Love is blue
Bleu Oleander: yes ... the sky!!1
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: wider than the sky
Bleu Oleander: a wonderful book by neuroscientist Gerald M. Edelman
Bleu Oleander: a metaphor for consciousness
Agatha Macbeth: Hm
Bleu Oleander: http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-b...-than-the-sky/
Bleu Oleander: have always loved that poem
Agatha Macbeth: When you said that made me think of Neuromancer :p
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eden Haiku: Just googled Staffordshire. Got terrier dogs but with adding England, I got this on Google Images; https://www.google.co.uk/search?site...dshire+england
Agatha Macbeth: Yep, famous for bull terriers
Bleu Oleander: pictures say it better :)
Agatha Macbeth: Kind of English pit bull
Eden Haiku: many castles over there Agatha... Nice settings for "noir literature"...
Bleu Oleander: indeed
Bleu Oleander: well I must get going
Bleu Oleander: nice to see you both
Eden Haiku: Beautiful Emily Dickinson poem Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: hope you have a lovely day
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I know of Emily Dickinson yes
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleuji
Bleu Oleander: bye for now
Agatha Macbeth: TC
Eden Haiku: The Brain is deeper than the sea— For—hold them—Blue to Blue— The one the other will absorb—
Agatha Macbeth: Blue to Bleu
Eden Haiku: Bye Bleu :)
Agatha Macbeth: Blue is the colour
Eden Haiku: Blue to blue...
Agatha Macbeth: Whose session is this these days?
Eden Haiku: This is Adams
Agatha Macbeth: Thought it was Adams
Agatha Macbeth: Snap
Eden Haiku: It was I think...
Eden Haiku: Hope she's well...
Agatha Macbeth: Guess s/he's busy in RL ATM
Agatha Macbeth: retiring soon I think
Eden Haiku: Waving to Adams! have a nice Sunday!
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eden Haiku: Yes, calendar says its Adams.
Agatha Macbeth: According to FB seems like a lovely part of the world
Agatha Macbeth: Cycling around
Eden Haiku: Staffordshire you mean?
Agatha Macbeth: Noooo
Agatha Macbeth: Where Adams is
Agatha Macbeth: NJ I think
Eden Haiku: She moved from California didn,T she?
Eden Haiku: Ah yes, New Jersey...
Eden Haiku: Nice area yes.
Agatha Macbeth: Adams is in New Jersey I think
Eden Haiku: Do you have many walking paths in your area Agatha?
Agatha Macbeth: I know old Jersey :p
Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes
Eden Haiku: Old jersey LOL
Agatha Macbeth: Countryside is very short distance away
Agatha Macbeth: Lots of narrow lanes and hedges
Eden Haiku: That,s wonderful to walk from one village to the next through the land, the moors and so on...
Eden Haiku: I loved that in the Lake District
Agatha Macbeth: Well the Moors are further north :p
Agatha Macbeth: Heathcliffe and Kathy
(I refrained from waving my arms about...)
Eden Haiku: We don't have that here. Either you walk in wild forests or in cirty parks, mostly...
Agatha Macbeth: No bears?
Eden Haiku: Yes, literary memories...
Agatha Macbeth: Glad you are back anyway :)
Eden Haiku: hehe, thanks :)
Eden Haiku: I,m luck we have little dirt roads in the neighborhood here. So i walk there, Lovely. With deer. No bears :)
Agatha Macbeth: Pity your plot in the village went...I loved that house
Agatha Macbeth nods
--BELL--
Eden Haiku: The Japanese one you mean?
Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes, the deer
Agatha Macbeth: Yes
Eden Haiku: Yes, it,s gone. But I have this new one close by. did you visit?
Agatha Macbeth: Not sure
Eden Haiku: Right nearby the pavilion... With a Sakura tree in the front...
Agatha Macbeth: Things have changed so quickly here lately
Eden Haiku: Wouild you like to visit before I go?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh right
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Eden Haiku: let,s go!
Eden Haiku: It,s next door really...
And off we went for a cup of non-scripted tea!
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