2016.02.08 07:00 - Virtual Reality

    The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.

     

    Riddle Flying.jpg

     

    Eden Haiku: Good morning Riddle :)
    Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
    Riddle Sideways: morning All
    Bleu Oleander: morning Eden, Riddle :)
    Eden Haiku: Hello Bleu :)
    Riddle Sideways: a slow wake up morning
    Riddle Sideways: the alarm cat meowed earlier today
    Riddle Sideways: that the sun was coming up

    First experience of virtual reality

    Eden Haiku: Had my first experience in virtual reality yesterday.
    Riddle Sideways: ?
    Riddle Sideways: listens
    Eden Haiku: At the Montreal's Great Library
    Eden Haiku: An exhibition with the cask and swiveling chair. One hour of visiting 10 world's libraries. Fascinating!
    Bleu Oleander: fun!
    Eden Haiku: Fascinating indeed!
    Riddle Sideways: http://montrealgazette.com/news/loca...brary-at-night
    Riddle Sideways: yes, swivel chair are much better than trying to stand
    Eden Haiku: Where did you try it Riddle?
    Riddle Sideways: at home, got a Google Cardboard last year
    Eden Haiku: oh wow! It's quite immersive isn' it?
    Eden Haiku: Given the not yet perfect technology, it's amazing how real it feels!
    Riddle Sideways: did you get dizzy?
    Riddle Sideways: some people do
    Eden Haiku: Did you ever try Bleu?
    Bleu Oleander: no not yet :)
    Eden Haiku: No Riddle, not dizzy at all, even when standing in mid-air in the stars over Alexandria Library!
    Eden Haiku: What was so strange was looking down at the floor and your invisible feet!
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Eden Haiku: Putting one's hands in front of your eyes and not seeing them!
    Riddle Sideways: and some of those systems are coming along
    Riddle Sideways: where you can see your avatar's feet and hands
    Eden Haiku: Yep, I was very excited about knowing that is is close-by, even for SL right?
    Riddle Sideways: right
    Riddle Sideways: movement is a little strange yet
    Bleu Oleander: next year?
    Eden Haiku: Ah, we didn't have an avatar at the library though.
    Riddle Sideways: Occulis rife(sp?) has a beta SL viewer now
    Eden Haiku: There was a loud noise at some point (From RL) and I got anxious, not being able to see.
    Riddle Sideways: and High Fedelity is getting better all the time now
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Eden Haiku: Didn't want to take out the cask though :)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Riddle Sideways: could you move forward/backward by titling your head?

    [I'm adding a link to a 30 secs video about the experience: https://youtu.be/Z4QNlurDaNc]


    --BELL--


    Eden Haiku: There was a Audubon's book about birds being shown by a librarian and the live birds were flying about in the library! Blue jays, even an owl!
    Bleu Oleander: cool !
    Eden Haiku: Could go from one library to the next by moving my head. It kind of clicked the next visit.
    Riddle Sideways: cool, having the book come alive
    Riddle Sideways: ah, to visit the library at Alexandra
    Eden Haiku: And in a Copenhagen library where books are not available to consult anymore, just like decorations on tablets, you could see transparent people from times past climbing stairs and taking out books. Their texture was different from the contemporary cleaning lady who seemed so real!
    Riddle Sideways: AR - Augmented Reality
    Eden Haiku: I was dissapointed we had no views of Alexandria's new modern library though, except from afar.
    Eden Haiku: Ah, it's augmented when details are added?
    Riddle Sideways: would like to walk around the old library

     

    Reality is a fuzzy word

    Bleu Oleander: reality is a fuzzy word :)
    Riddle Sideways: yes it is, Bleu
    Eden Haiku: Yes, me too. There were scenes with scribes and rolls of papyrus but it didn't feel real...
    Eden Haiku: reality is indeed a fuzzy word Bleu :)
    Riddle Sideways: AR uses the camera in the goggles/phone to show RL and then adds tagged additional images/info
    Riddle Sideways: and can show your feet
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes, Riddle, like addresses, websites and such? Oh and feet!
    Riddle Sideways: there is a museum tour that shows egyptian art from all angles
    Eden Haiku: Waking up this morning, I visualized going through the PaB village with this virtual reality gear. Not following Eden but seeing with my own eyes. It felt very different.
    Bleu Oleander: you separate seeing through Eden with seeing with your own eyes?


    --BELL--


    Eden Haiku: Not before but compared to how I saw yesterday, yes.
    Bleu Oleander: more like mouseview?
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Eden Haiku: My house seemed too big to be so close by this transparent pavilion?
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Bleu Oleander: maybe need to re-build ... something more transparent?
    Eden Haiku: I'm thinking about installing some lighter structure
    Eden Haiku: Yes, more transpraent
    Bleu Oleander: will be fun to see what you do
    Eden Haiku: ;)
    Bleu Oleander: I do like your tree tho
    Eden Haiku: yes, I think I will add more trees...
    Riddle Sideways: yes, had to try and buy a tree like it
    Eden Haiku: Will explore possibilities
    Bleu Oleander: I always feel reluctant to take down what I build, but almost always like my new builds better :)
    Bleu Oleander: the fun is in the creation
    Bleu Oleander: I think I will change my garden area and keep that as a revolving design
    Eden Haiku: My buildings skills being limited, I just hope I won't ruin the landscaping...
    Bleu Oleander: well it is here to play with :)
    Bleu Oleander: so have fun
    Bleu Oleander: can always put your house back
    Eden Haiku: Ok, then . As long as you can repair any mishap Bleu :)
    Bleu Oleander: ha ha!
    Bleu Oleander: keep a copy of your house
    Eden Haiku: If I dig too pro [profound I meant]
    Riddle Sideways: remembering that you lost a plant underground
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Eden Haiku: yes, will do :)
    Bleu Oleander: yes you have some flowers underground
    Eden Haiku: Yes, you understand how I can lose tracks of things Riddle :)
    Bleu Oleander: can cam down and see
    Eden Haiku: it will be easier to fetch them when I take down the house :)
    Riddle Sideways: grass is very hard to select to move
    Bleu Oleander: a trick is to select something else first, then click on your grass
    Bleu Oleander: or just open the edit window
    Bleu Oleander: and click on the grass
    Bleu Oleander: makes selection easier
    Eden Haiku: Would any of you have a link for a place with Mongolilan yourts? [I meant Mongolian yurts...Typos!!!]
    Riddle Sideways: and terraforming is too hard to get correct
    Bleu Oleander: not sure what that is Eden :)
    Eden Haiku: Ah tks Bleu, will note that!!
    Bleu Oleander: I would not try terraforming
    Riddle Sideways: ummm, yes think the marketplace has urls
    Bleu Oleander: hard to get back
    Eden Haiku: No no, no terraforming for me, I promise!
    Eden Haiku: Looking up the English word for yourte. A kind of tent you know, round-shaped?
    Riddle Sideways: can't speel it either [spell]
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm, inventory does not have one, if speeling it right [spelling]
    Bleu Oleander: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p...ngolian+yurts+
    Riddle Sideways: must be one of the alts has it
    Bleu Oleander: seems there are many
    Eden Haiku: A thanks!
    Bleu Oleander: find one that has permission set to be able to edit and texture ... might be fun to add your own textures
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I need a kind of basis to edit from, So I will shop for some structure.
    Bleu Oleander: let me know if I can help
    Riddle Sideways: lol, there is a Yurt on a Wagon


    --BELL--


    Bleu Oleander: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p...YURT-2/1907062
    Bleu Oleander: that one you can modify
    Bleu Oleander: and prims could be lessened
    Bleu Oleander: at only L$1 ... its a deal :)
    Eden Haiku: Hope it won't be worse with wagon. ...Thanks Bleu, How are you doing with the 4 views of TSK exercise 6 Riddle?
    Bleu Oleander: must get going ... enjoy your day :)
    Eden Haiku: L$1? Wow! I'm rich now on SL. Never spending :)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Eden Haiku: Bye Bleu, thanks for the tips :)
    Bleu Oleander: see you soon
    Riddle Sideways: by Bleu have the best day
    Riddle Sideways: yes, the L$300/week adds up
    Eden Haiku: It does:)

     

    Making plans to explore and flying about

    Riddle Sideways: if you have the prim count left then your house could become a skybox
    Riddle Sideways: on a sky platform
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes....could do that too.
    Riddle Sideways: Bleu, Luci, Cat, et.al. did that
    Eden Haiku: Did you create a platform yourself?
    Riddle Sideways: almost did yesterday
    Eden Haiku: Almost :) ?
    Riddle Sideways: well, the plans out did the ablities
    Riddle Sideways: trying to use a rezzer
    Eden Haiku: ah ah, wait till you hear my sad stories :)
    Eden Haiku: And you are a good builder!
    Riddle Sideways: to be able to rez different scenes with prim count that then can be taken away
    Eden Haiku: I remember your tessaract at an Art of Being exhibit!
    Riddle Sideways: nope!! not a good builder
    Eden Haiku: Prim count is arduous...
    Riddle Sideways: tessaract was mathematical and programmnig script. did not need artful taste and skill
    Eden Haiku: Well, I still remember it as an amazing experience!
    Riddle Sideways: ty
    Eden Haiku: And it was beautiful too :)
    Riddle Sideways: we all seem to have different skills
    Riddle Sideways: remembering your dances
    Eden Haiku: and so many more to develop!
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Eden Haiku: I want to learn how to use virtual reality !
    Riddle Sideways: occasionally, have gone to dance halls or music performances and wonder how to do dancing and singing/playing
    Riddle Sideways: check out Cardboard
    Riddle Sideways: it is about $20
    Eden Haiku: I used a scripted gesture for the dance.
    Riddle Sideways: uses your cell phone
    Eden Haiku: really?
    Riddle Sideways: cheap enough to get ya hooked
    Eden Haiku: And you don't need to be a geek to use that?
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Riddle Sideways: nope


    --BELL--


    Eden Haiku: Might ask my engineer brother to hlep. He'd love that !
    Eden Haiku: He would!
    Riddle Sideways: if you wanted to go off the deep geek end of the pool, you could
    Eden Haiku: Well I don't,  I just want to play!
    Riddle Sideways: the NY Times gave away Cardboards with the Sunday newpaper last year
    Eden Haiku: Ok, and you order that online?
    Riddle Sideways: yes, many people and places selling many versions
    Eden Haiku: Oh great! Wll explore!
    Riddle Sideways: original did not have a strap to hold it on your head
    Eden Haiku: Good point: buy one with a strap!
    Riddle Sideways: ok, we are both inspired to do something now
    Eden Haiku: yesterday, borrowed ' IWatch for Dummies' at the library. I don't even own an i Watch! (yet...)
    Riddle Sideways: lol
    Riddle Sideways: read the book without the iWatch?
    Eden Haiku: I am :)
    Eden Haiku: A foot into the future...
    Riddle Sideways: a toe into the waters
    Eden Haiku: But I also plan a week of silent meditation in April with no digital devices, so...
    Riddle Sideways: remembering that
    Riddle Sideways: a friend just came back from India
    Riddle Sideways: a silent ashram
    Eden Haiku: Oh!
    Eden Haiku: How long?
    Riddle Sideways: a silent week
    Riddle Sideways: with sounds and voices all around
    Riddle Sideways: that she could not understand
    Eden Haiku: Wow!
    Riddle Sideways: yes wow
    Eden Haiku: Immersed in Indian sounds...
    Riddle Sideways: that would be so wow
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Riddle Sideways: that looks so cool
    Riddle Sideways: flying spinning
    Riddle Sideways: ty
    Riddle Sideways: ha, did it
    Riddle Sideways: there is another app with Cardboard/VR
    Riddle Sideways: that puts you at some point on earth
    Riddle Sideways: and you fly around looking
    Riddle Sideways: not knowing where it was
    Riddle Sideways: had to dig in Google Earth to find locations


    --BELL--


    Eden Haiku: hard to take pictures of us as birds :)
    Eden Haiku: Sorry I forgot to add my pics to your beautiful log of last week. Will do!
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Riddle Sideways: these would be better as videos, but that can not go in wiki
    Eden Haiku: Yes, sadly ...
    Eden Haiku: The animation I used once was DreamDance. Seems i can't find anymore :(
    Riddle Sideways: that darn full inventory
    Eden Haiku: Watched Her (the movie) after reading the log of last year (a theme session)
    Eden Haiku: Would love to have an OS organizing all my mails the way she did!
    Riddle Sideways: good. good movie
    Riddle Sideways: putting that session on the todo list
    Eden Haiku: Yes. It was my third attempts. The first 2 times, I stopped after a few minutes. in. I guess it was the bad French translation. This time.I listened in English.
    Eden Haiku: I think you attended that session Riddle, if I'm not mistaken...
    Riddle Sideways: hmmmm, can't remember it
    Riddle Sideways: might be a nice reread
    Riddle Sideways: Well, gotta do a couple RL things (garbage/recycling day) then will be back to try skybox holodeck
    Riddle Sideways: thanks for nice time
    Eden Haiku: Bye Riddle, have a beautiful day!
    Riddle Sideways: by

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