2016.11.01 07:00 - Empty books, Chronicles, pronouns and memories

    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

     

    Adams Rubble: Hello leaping Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: ok, here!
    Riddle Sideways: so mornings are tougher than others
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: hope things are ok in your reality
    Adams Rubble: I see that San Francisco had some rain for the trick opr treaters
    Adams Rubble: or
    Adams Rubble: things are dandy in my reality; how about you?
    Adams Rubble: except for emails
    Riddle Sideways: they got more rain then us
    Riddle Sideways: electricity had gone out last night
    Adams Rubble: uh oh
    Riddle Sideways: all computers and stuff were shut down
    Riddle Sideways: let them be until this morning
    Riddle Sideways: they are waking slowly
    Riddle Sideways: also, got a broadcast phone call about water might not be filtered enough
    Riddle Sideways: so boil drinking water
    Adams Rubble: in the old days they would not tell you :)
    Riddle Sideways: just had to somehow 'know' it

    Adams Rubble: yesterday I returned all my Talmud books to the library and got out two books on the heart sutra and emptiness
    Adams Rubble: I have not opened them yet :)
    Riddle Sideways: ah, the shifting of studies
    Adams Rubble: figured they were just empty anyway
    Riddle Sideways: a new major
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Riddle Sideways: heavy books about emptiness
    Adams Rubble: The Dali Lama says he does not like to teach emptiness to westerners
    Adams Rubble: It might do damage
    Adams Rubble: I think Pema was teaching us already so maybe I already damaged
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Riddle Sideways: laughs


    Adams Rubble: You can be the first to know
    Adams Rubble: I am thinking of adding a chapter to the Chronicles
    Riddle Sideways: have been damaged goods for many many years
    Riddle Sideways: an empty chapter?
    Adams Rubble: hehe
                   --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: no, one on what has happened since
    Riddle Sideways: yes!
    Riddle Sideways: catch the readers up
    Adams Rubble: there are some people who have never been interviewed

    Adams Rubble: Am I correct that you and Stevenaia have been hosting sessions continuously since 2008?
    Riddle Sideways: when did you stop interviewing?
    Riddle Sideways: a few gaurdians added
    Adams Rubble: when I stopped posting
    Riddle Sideways: that would be around the new land time?
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Riddle Sideways: there are also a couple people that seem to have grown or expanded since the first interview
    Riddle Sideways: that would be interesting in a new way
    Adams Rubble: I have been thinking it would be nice to reinterview a few people
    Riddle Sideways: that would be nice

    Adams Rubble: [07:16] Adams Rubble: Am I correct that you and Stevenaia have been hosting sessions continuously since 2008?
    Riddle Sideways: looks up at calendar, well it would seem so
    Riddle Sideways: inertial
    Riddle Sideways: tradition
    Adams Rubble: modest
    Riddle Sideways: in a rut
    Adams Rubble: dedicated
    Riddle Sideways: there you go, spinning things positively again
    Adams Rubble: on behalf of all PaB people, let me thank you :)
    Riddle Sideways: blushes
    Adams Rubble: and Stevenaia
    Riddle Sideways: no, no, no, It has been a pleasure
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: if not anchored to a time-place slot would have drifted off long ago
    Adams Rubble: I am glad you stayed
    Riddle Sideways: Stevenaia changed time slots! came to the Friday night time slot and nobody else here
    Riddle Sideways: ty
    Adams Rubble: yes Stevenaia has moved around some
    Adams Rubble: sometimes has done more than one session
    Riddle Sideways: yes

    Riddle Sideways: am now thinking about how long this war against pronouns has been going on
    Riddle Sideways: too often snapping at people for saying 'this'
    Riddle Sideways: from a different room
    Adams Rubble: war against pronouns?
    Riddle Sideways: combination of events happened some couple years ago
    Riddle Sideways: in PaB there was much discussion of the use of 'We'
                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: several ppl were using 'We' in their generalization sentences
    Adams Rubble: the Royals?
    Riddle Sideways: rather the generalizing that everybody else in the circle must think the same way
    Riddle Sideways: there were sessions and emails regarding we should, we think, we are, etc.
    Adams Rubble: I vaguely remember that but think I repressed it
    Riddle Sideways: about the same time many RL discussions over gender pronouns were going on
    Riddle Sideways: learning to rephrase to zee and here
    Riddle Sideways: trying to be gender neutral in conversation
    Riddle Sideways: add in the noticing that this typist had nearly all sentences starting with "I ..."
    Riddle Sideways: why use I I I I I so much
    Riddle Sideways: why so much ego in there
    Riddle Sideways: should drop it

    Adams Rubble: I forget the name of the avatar who never used I
    Adams Rubble: he was a master
    Riddle Sideways: another one?
    Riddle Sideways: who never says "I"
    Adams Rubble: Avastu
    Riddle Sideways: Oh, Yes!!
    Riddle Sideways: admired Avastu so much
    Riddle Sideways: had a very rough edge
    Riddle Sideways: and few words
    Adams Rubble: yes
    Riddle Sideways: but spot on
    Riddle Sideways: if one took the time-effort to reread and understand the meanings
    Adams Rubble: we have had people from many traditions come to PaB over the years
    Riddle Sideways: and bring those traditions and teachings in with so many different ways and means
    Riddle Sideways: so fortunate to sit down next to them. wherever in the world they were
    Adams Rubble: :)
                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: knowing so much about their inner selves
    Riddle Sideways: and yet not knowing the 'usual' outer stuff

    Riddle Sideways: just to finish pronoun topic:
    Riddle Sideways: was around a person caught up in cutting edge of it
    Riddle Sideways: who is using 'they' and 'them' now
    Riddle Sideways: for multi-gender and neutral
    Riddle Sideways: personal pronouns
    Riddle Sideways: more subtle
    Riddle Sideways: reading the logs has pointed toward a few people who need to have a gender pronoun in almost all sentences

    Riddle Sideways: now back to Avastu
    Riddle Sideways: so many SL avatars are so pretty
    Adams Rubble: really???
    Riddle Sideways: Avastu was probably the first fat person known
    Riddle Sideways: wrinkled too
    Riddle Sideways: older
    Adams Rubble: Isn't it funny that I hardly remember
    Riddle Sideways: was more then refreshing, it was enlightening
    Riddle Sideways: good
    Riddle Sideways: so many to remember :}
    Riddle Sideways: the 2 lions
    Riddle Sideways: didn't spend enough time with either
    Adams Rubble sings "I remember them well"
    Riddle Sideways: they were short. no they were tall. Ah, I remember them well
    Adams Rubble: :)

    Riddle Sideways: s only one week until election vothing day
                   --BELL--
    Adams Rubble nods quietly
    Riddle Sideways: then might sing "remember it well"
    Adams Rubble: this is one we will not soon forget
    Riddle Sideways: perhaps remember it enough to never repeat it
    Adams Rubble: let's hope we do not remember it because we cannot undo it
    Riddle Sideways: yes, please
    Adams Rubble: sigh
    Riddle Sideways: sigh
    Riddle Sideways: that felt good
    Adams Rubble: It would be nice if after the election people began to realize that our dialogue has become very toxic and begin to come together
    Riddle Sideways: :) even remembering when the bell went off exactly on the quarter :)
    Riddle Sideways: oh, that would be nice
    Riddle Sideways: however, the pessimist here thinks that it won't last
    Adams Rubble: it will depend on whether we can find a way for the media people to make more money with peaceful dialogue says the cynic

             Lindens: "Sim restart in 3 minutes"
    Adams Rubble: holly cow. "we got to get out of this place if it is the last thing we ever do"
    Riddle Sideways: individuals can talk and work with each other
    Adams Rubble: bye
    Riddle Sideways: remembering when the sim would restart each Tuesday
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Adams Rubble: whoops my home is been restarted
    Riddle Sideways: ouch, the notice shakes the whole screnn
    Riddle Sideways: ok, by
    Riddle Sideways: need to restart - life

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