The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

Riddle Sideways: thank you,
Riddle Sideways: Howdee, Adams
Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: . moves face cat, to reach keyboard

Adams Rubble: so you would like to talk about death this morning :)
Riddle Sideways: sent an email link last night, but forgot to change the title
   https://www.npr.org/2018/02/12/585066841/a-stage-4-cancer-patient-shares-the-pain-and-clarity-of-living-scan-to-scan
Riddle Sideways: wellll, not really talk about DEATH
Riddle Sideways: there were so many topics in that interview

Adams Rubble: Two people sent me stuff to read this morning but I had other plans. I managed to read a little over half of the article
Adams Rubble: Yes, prosperity Christianity has been gaining popularity
Riddle Sideways: was making complicated dinner when the show was on, so did not pay close attention
Riddle Sideways: just finished listening again
Adams Rubble: Christianity is about compassion, not praying for success
Riddle Sideways: the religious part was probably the main reason to send to you
Riddle Sideways: so, what's with this Prosperity?

Adams Rubble: I liked the part about the Mennonites living in a hell hole caring for each other
Riddle Sideways: yes

Adams Rubble: In a way this type of theology is racist
Adams Rubble: They take advantage of white priviledge and assumes the blessings come from God. they see people of color struggling and think it is their own fault
Riddle Sideways: and if a priviledged person does get sick ...
Adams Rubble: let's face it--we are all going to get sick and we all are going to die
Adams Rubble: The Monnonites have it right on that
Riddle Sideways: once they are part of the club ... then kicked out
Riddle Sideways: "Nobody gets out alive" ... but few know when it is coming
   
Adams Rubble: looking around at nature, some trees sprout at a good spot with good drainage and lots of rain; they prosper
Adams Rubble: other trees sprout from seeds in dry rocky soil; they may live on sickly for a few years but will have a short life
Adams Rubble: God does not like the healthy trees better
Riddle Sideways: or is it that so many seeds sprout and many die immediately
Adams Rubble: yes, because the trees produce many seeds so a few will will rposper

Adams Rubble: then there is Job :)
Adams Rubble: the devil hada plan for him
Riddle Sideways: the Job story gets thrown in
Adams Rubble: God went along with it
Riddle Sideways: or was a pawn in the God-Devil tug-o-war
Adams Rubble: then there is Job's wife and his children
Adams Rubble: if Job is a pawn, what are they?
Riddle Sideways: the affects spiral out
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: thinking Job is just one story
Riddle Sideways: (that involves so many others)
Riddle Sideways: then that story gets re-told year after year
Adams Rubble: oh I guess it does :)
Riddle Sideways: what about the billions of other stories
Riddle Sideways: all the possible combinations of types of life stories

Adams Rubble: people with cancer in every city
Riddle Sideways: close friend fighting his second cancer

Riddle Sideways: hard for (little) minds to think for all the possible life stories
Riddle Sideways: there 'must' be a G-d that keeps track
Riddle Sideways: since a beginning has recorded every life
Riddle Sideways: where, how, when, which tree seed grew-died
Riddle Sideways: in The Great Database
Riddle Sideways: and the Great AI can be trained on that database
      [do not even think of G-d's relational database and/or AI connections]
Adams Rubble: we are all connected
Riddle Sideways: yes, all the individual records AND all the relationships
Riddle Sideways: Tree had a good life ... but one day Adams had taken a photo
Riddle Sideways: Tree might be dead, but lives on in an Adams memory and photo
Riddle Sideways: and the memory of each viewer of that photo
Riddle Sideways: and the backup tapes of SL could be read
Riddle Sideways: to contain all the lives that started and did things
Riddle Sideways: the little wooden cubes that were immediately deleted
Riddle Sideways: the grasslands that are still here

Adams Rubble: I think I think differently about this
Riddle Sideways: oh?
Adams Rubble: we do not need to be recorded or be remembered
Adams Rubble: we are all connected with each other, with every living thing and with the universe
Adams Rubble: we borrow our molecules and atoms and use them for a while; then they go on to be part of other things
Adams Rubble: it is how we connect that is important
Adams Rubble can hear pema saying "Does that make sense?"
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: can hear both making sense
Riddle Sideways: and so many others making sense

Adams Rubble: the Prosperity Theology is very self-sih
Riddle Sideways: takes the little building blocks and connects them
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: one of the main tasks of every religion seems to be to deal with the death subject
Adams Rubble: it is difficult for us to think about death on our own
Riddle Sideways: so we have a religion to think about it for/with us
Riddle Sideways: sometimes joining/leaving one that sounds right
Adams Rubble: some of us have experiences that remind us of our mortality
Riddle Sideways: And hard on our own to think of how to live a Good life
Adams Rubble: we resolve to this life differently but soon fall back into old patterns
Riddle Sideways: so a religion shows us
Adams Rubble: it can

Adams Rubble: religion leaders can lose focus too and forget the deep message of their religion
Riddle Sideways: liked the part in the interview about Jesus Land in Florida
Adams Rubble: yes, ouch
Riddle Sideways: at 1pm the cruxification
Riddle Sideways: at 3pm he rises
Adams Rubble: bringing in the bucks, bringing in the bucks, we will come rejoicing, bringing in the bucks
Riddle Sideways: so many good songs

Riddle Sideways: a complete aside ... when Adams Rubble awoke after yesterday
Riddle Sideways: and realized she was wearing a flower garden
Riddle Sideways: how hard was it to pick that nice pink dress?
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble took off the flower garden before going to sleep :)
Riddle Sideways: oh!
Adams Rubble: sorry to dissapoint
Riddle Sideways: some stories are told to disappoint
Adams Rubble: awwww
Riddle Sideways: there were other points in that interview
Riddle Sideways: so many
Adams Rubble listens
               --BELL--
Riddle Sideways: the time one spends getting rid of photos they are in. the not buying new cloths
Riddle Sideways: thinking that those still living would not want to see her in photos
Riddle Sideways: why buy a dress? I am dying
Adams Rubble: I did not get that far I think
Riddle Sideways: whoops, spoiler
Adams Rubble: I don't think she should get rid of photos. Her son will want them. They can be a connection
Riddle Sideways: from one view point that is correct, but her mind was not really using that view
Adams Rubble: I will try to get further
      [later got an email that Adams finished reading AND listened to the cracking voice]
Riddle Sideways: and there is the difference of reading the article for depth vs. the listening to hear her voice break up at special spots
Adams Rubble: I only had the written

Riddle Sideways: when reading, our 'pause button' is so good. the stopping to contemplate some point just read
Riddle Sideways: need better control of the pause button when listening
Riddle Sideways: need a better rewind button for ...
Riddle Sideways: recalling last nights dreams
Riddle Sideways: recalling what the other items at the grocery are
Riddle Sideways: whoops, went wide afield again

Adams Rubble: that is what happens when we think about deth :)
Riddle Sideways: Life flows on pretty good, until we think too much about deth
Adams Rubble nods
Riddle Sideways: just had to go Google "deth"

Adams Rubble: we live in a place that allows us to have things pretty good
Riddle Sideways: Oh, those people that live in places/conditions so close to death
Adams Rubble: yes, fie on a theology that thinks it is their own fault
Adams Rubble: it makes my blood boil
Riddle Sideways: having the prosperity to live life not constantly next to death
Adams Rubble: there is the parable of the Publican and the Pharasee
Riddle Sideways: /listens
Adams Rubble: Luke 18:9-14
Adams Rubble: The Pharisee beats his chest and says "I thank the Lord, that i am not as other men are"
               --BELL--
Adams Rubble: robbers
Adams Rubble: evil doers
Adams Rubble: adulterors
Adams Rubble: or evn as this publican
Adams Rubble: the publican said
Adams Rubble: God have mercy on me, a sinner
Adams Rubble: Those that exalt themselves will be hunbled; those who humble themselves will be exalted
Riddle Sideways: when shall the humbling begin?

Adams Rubble: there was a wonderful muscial piece from the reformation times but I can not find it
Adams Rubble: It reminds me of Prosperity Theology
Adams Rubble: I thnak the Lord God that I am wealthy and healthy and wise
Adams Rubble: and not like other men (women)
Adams Rubble: who are sick, and poor
Adams Rubble: and patriots fans
Adams Rubble giggles
Riddle Sideways: lol
Riddle Sideways: yes, all this righteous talk excludes women
Riddle Sideways: and excludes the poor that pick our vegetables
Riddle Sideways: and pay the taxes
Riddle Sideways: and
Riddle Sideways: and
Riddle Sideways: and how did this soapbox get so tall?

Adams Rubble: I was not as sick as that woman but when I had my treatment I developed a peace with myself that i was ready to die
Adams Rubble: I can see the world going on without me--that it will not die with me
Adams Rubble: i was fortunate that the treatment was every day and that i could walk to it from work; the extra exercise actually made me healthier during that time :)
Riddle Sideways: then there are those that think they are the world. it would die without them.

Adams Rubble: if we are remembered, it will be for the good we do
Riddle Sideways: yes
Riddle Sideways: not our bad cooked meals
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: they may be rememberd too :)

Adams Rubble: I am afraid I must get back to my RL project
Adams Rubble: it was nice chatting
Riddle Sideways: it was
Riddle Sideways: thank you
Adams Rubble: thank you Riddle :)
Adams Rubble: bye for now :)
Riddle Sideways: now, back to the day, in progress
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: ㋡