The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza. The comments are by Agatha.

Agatha Macbeth: Liz ♥
Agatha Macbeth: You look grey for some reason
Agatha Macbeth wonders if you're here or a ghost...
Bleu Oleander's current display-name is "Bleu".
Agatha Macbeth: Hello there
stevenaia Michinaga: sorry , am I late?
Bleu Oleander: hiya all :)
Agatha Macbeth: A bit :p
Agatha Macbeth: Dunno what's wrong with Eliza
stevenaia Michinaga: afk?
Agatha Macbeth: She's been like that since I got here
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
stevenaia Michinaga: might be those shoes
Bleu Oleander: lol
Agatha Macbeth: And I see half of her grey too

Mixed dates
stevenaia Michinaga: is this the WG meeting?
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Bleu Oleander: next week?
Agatha Macbeth: Don't think so, but we can make it one if you want :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eliza Madrigal: Hi :) Sorry a repair guy came so I was distracted. Also no one was here but me at first
Agatha Macbeth: You look grey too Bleu
Agatha Macbeth: Must be SL
Bleu Oleander: really?
Eliza Madrigal sees Bleu clearly
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Eliza Madrigal: And Agatha in white gown :)
Eliza Madrigal: And Stevie in what is now traditional orange
Agatha Macbeth: And so is the lower half of Liz
Bleu Oleander: you must have your other avatars seen set too low?
Agatha Macbeth: I can see Steve perfectly
stevenaia Michinaga: thank you :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: I see everyone clearly
Agatha Macbeth: I'm on no limit
Agatha Macbeth: There's no limits :p
Bleu Oleander: on the latest viewer version?
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Eliza Madrigal: And how is everyone? Aside from a little gray through Agatha's eyes
Bleu Oleander: good here, you?
Agatha Macbeth: Come closer Stevie
Eliza Madrigal: fairly well thanks, curious as to what is going on with others
Agatha Macbeth: Yes fine thanks
Bleu Oleander: yes me too
Eliza Madrigal: Am going to a Jainism exhibit tonight, so I'll pop just after 2
Agatha Macbeth: Woot
--BELL--1.15
Bleu Oleander: I was just skimming a new free online book that might be of interest https://mindbodyproblems.com/
Eliza Madrigal clicks
Agatha Macbeth: What's a Jainism exhibit?
Eliza Madrigal: An art exhibit, not sure of the details but a smaller touring exhibit from a fancier one
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Bleu Oleander: art about the Jains or by them?
Eliza Madrigal: This is an entirely online book, Bleu?
Bleu Oleander: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: I scheduled this meeting (WG) at the request of a member who is not here, as such I have no agenda
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, what? Isn't the meeting next week or is something else going on>
Bleu Oleander: next wed at 1pm I thought?
Eliza Madrigal: yes, WG meeting would be news to me
Agatha Macbeth makes a note
stevenaia Michinaga: oh... hmmm maybe
Agatha Macbeth: Would be a grey WG for me
Eliza Madrigal: similar to a blue christmas
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe :)
Agatha Macbeth: Or a white one
Eliza Madrigal: https://frost.fiu.edu/exhibitions-ev...cted-body.html (the exhibit)
stevenaia Michinaga: oh look it is the 26th, so so sorry, lost my head
Bleu Oleander: looks interesting
Agatha Macbeth: Do we have mind-body problems then?
Eliza Madrigal: :) thought you just missed us and paid a special visit
Bleu Oleander: apparently :)
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Agatha Macbeth: Good to see you anyway
stevenaia Michinaga: that too, in a panic as I was 8 minutes late as opposed to 6 days early
Bleu Oleander: ok so we're still on for next wed?
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Bleu Oleander: ha ha!
Eliza Madrigal: :) Have a bright pink sticky note on my monitor
Agatha Macbeth: Trouble with time
Bleu Oleander: my sticky is bright green :)
Eliza Madrigal giggles

Rams' horns
stevenaia Michinaga: just reset my clock yesterday (I was fasting for holiday)
Eliza Madrigal: Adams and Riddle had an interesting conversation about Yom Kippur this morning
Agatha Macbeth: Life in the fast lane
Agatha Macbeth: Oh?
Bleu Oleander: posted?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: will read
Bleu Oleander: ok will read later
Eliza Madrigal: I was fascinated by the idea of being forgiven for something you might do in the year ahead
Agatha Macbeth: I'm bound to need that from someone!
stevenaia Michinaga: well one hopes, the alternatives are not pleasant
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: so that's assuming you will do something that needs forgiveness?
stevenaia Michinaga: but it is mostly about past atonements
Agatha Macbeth: Ah does the new year start soon then?
stevenaia Michinaga: a long list
Eliza Madrigal: I was thinking it must be like that... that you enter the year with a spring in your step
stevenaia Michinaga: it states 10 days before Yom Kippur
stevenaia Michinaga: starts
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Eliza Madrigal: "You're already there, what's to worry about?" But I know that must be a very filtered impression
stevenaia Michinaga: well it lasts until you do something that you know should be atoned for next year, doesn't last as long as you think, about on springie step
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal: A friend in a group used to, every year, ask for forgiveness, knowing/unknowing slights or wrongs. It was so meaningful that hm, about 30 of us within the group would take part. Seems a very special time and ritual.
Eliza Madrigal: She was sort of this amazing person. Am sure she is, wherever she is :)
Agatha Macbeth: In SL?
Eliza Madrigal: No, pre-SL actually, early AOL! lol
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Agatha Macbeth: That *is* early
Eliza Madrigal: Back in the days you would download threads and then answer them offline, then upload them in a bundle
Eliza Madrigal: to save money :)
Agatha Macbeth: Good grief
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: The dial up days
stevenaia Michinaga: hmmm, we don't ask forgiveness from the ppl we wronged (strangely), but from the one (in theory) who will allow us to live another year
Eliza Madrigal: my pre-PaB model
Agatha Macbeth: That's interesting
--BELL--1.30
Eliza Madrigal: Perhaps it was her own ritual that she added in.
stevenaia Michinaga: there's an entire metaphor of being written in the book of life for another year (because you have been forgiven) and the book closes at sunset complete with rams horns blowing
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Bleu Oleander: quite a metaphor!
stevenaia Michinaga: worth you finding a service next year to witness (or listen to) at sunset
Eliza Madrigal: Would love that
Agatha Macbeth: Sunset seems like a good time for it
stevenaia Michinaga: well partly because that is the end of the day, holiday at sunset as we sue the lunar calendar
stevenaia Michinaga: *use
Agatha Macbeth ponders sueing a calendar
Eliza Madrigal: :) I can think of times that would be appropriate
stevenaia Michinaga: that why Easter is either too early or too late, it's really right on time by our calendar (Passover)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: Something to do with the moon I think
Eliza Madrigal: https://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2018/09/2018.09.20_07:00_-_Give_Me_That_Olde_Tyme_Compassion (session with Adams and Riddle this morning. In the text he says he will be posting further)
Agatha Macbeth: Nice

Eliza Madrigal: Bleu, am I missing where to find the author of this online book? I like the idea of going through something that is so accessible
Bleu Oleander: John Horgan
Bleu Oleander: he's a science writer (we met him a few years ago)
Eliza Madrigal: the way he has presented it is fun
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: cool idea
Eliza Madrigal: I'm entering into the last weeks of my course, so hope to be able to instigate more things
Bleu Oleander: how was the course?
Eliza Madrigal: still going on... if you ask me on any given week I will say something entirely different
Eliza Madrigal: keeps changing teachers (lawyer, judge, appellant lawyer, etc.)
Bleu Oleander: btw, he acknowledges Piet at the end of the book so they must know each other
stevenaia Michinaga: he does get around
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Like Dr Who
Eliza Madrigal: an apt comparison at times
Eliza Madrigal: I listened to a great book this week, Winners Take All
Eliza Madrigal: Not for PaB, but meaningful for our times and future
Agatha Macbeth: Did Trump write it?
Bleu Oleander: about the 1%?
Eliza Madrigal would not read a book by that person :P
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, basically about the 1 % but more about company culture
Eliza Madrigal: and how ubiquitous it is in our thinking
Bleu Oleander: oh yes, I want to read that ... I really like the author
Eliza Madrigal: He's new to me, am a big fan now
Bleu Oleander: I've heard him speak on some shows and am a fan too
Eliza Madrigal: He articulated things that I've been feeling but had no words for
Eliza Madrigal: like the difference between public intellectuals and "thought-leaders"
Agatha Macbeth: That always helps
Eliza Madrigal: :) we're sort of inundated with the latter. Anyway, big rec.
Agatha Macbeth: Or nervous rec
Eliza Madrigal grins
Agatha Macbeth: It was talk like a pirate day yesterday
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder how Quilty is?
Eliza Madrigal: wow, obscure reference ^.^
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Agatha Macbeth: I'm full of those
Bleu Oleander: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...4&&FORM=VRDGAR
--BELL--1.45
Agatha Macbeth: Glad I didn't have pronounce his name
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: ty for that, will look forward to reading
Eliza Madrigal: listening*
Agatha Macbeth: 'Hello Mr Smith'
Bleu Oleander: yw
Eliza Madrigal: for me his first name is easy, because Ananda is the name of the person Buddha gave the flower to in the famous story of enlightenment
Eliza Madrigal: So when I forgot his name I would think of that and start typing and let google do the rest ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: As in Ananda Marga
Bleu Oleander: good strategy!
Eliza Madrigal: memory tricks am having to learn too many lately
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Agatha Macbeth: And you're so young
Eliza Madrigal: young at heart, but have put myself in a setting where I have to keep up with a lot... challenging
Eliza Madrigal: which I guess was the point
Agatha Macbeth: I have faith in you
Eliza Madrigal: thank you. :) that helps
Bleu Oleander: gotta go ... an 80lb pup just jumped up on me ... guess she's hungry!
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Eliza Madrigal: OMG
Agatha Macbeth: Woof
Eliza Madrigal: photos please :)))
Bleu Oleander: nice to see you all :) kk she's just had her bath :)
Eliza Madrigal: speaking of keeping up with a lot
Agatha Macbeth: TC Bleuji
Bleu Oleander: see you next wed if not before
Eliza Madrigal: you too Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: see you then
Bleu Oleander: bye all
Eliza Madrigal: my favorite time is when George is newly bathed and runs around like a crazy animal... must be quite a show with an 80 lb. furball
Agatha Macbeth: How many lb is georgie?
Eliza Madrigal: only 18, and everyone keeps saying he's too fat
Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
Agatha Macbeth: Bit of a difference from 80
Eliza Madrigal: slight :)
Eliza Madrigal: Still with us Stevie?
Agatha Macbeth: Must be his little legs
Eliza Madrigal: dangerous for dachshunds to put on weight, because of their backs
Eliza Madrigal: so I have to make him diet :(
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe Steve is blowing the ram's horn :p
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Bet that makes quite a racket
Agatha Macbeth: Come blow your horn
Eliza Madrigal: Probably a very distinctive sound that makes a strong mark

Eliza Madrigal: So why are you dressed so fancy?
Eliza Madrigal: look like you should be dancing in a palace today
Agatha Macbeth: No reason
Eliza Madrigal: :) Nice
Agatha Macbeth: We can go dancing if you want :)
Eliza Madrigal: I was mid-change when the repair guy arrived
Agatha Macbeth grins
Agatha Macbeth: Must have been a pleasant surprise for him
Eliza Madrigal: Am going to have to leave soon, but if you arrive at any given palace in SL looking so lovely, someone will scoop you up

Agatha Macbeth: I'm very particular about who scoops me up!
Eliza Madrigal laughs
Eliza Madrigal: well he did try to get me to make him lunch tomorrow when he returns :P
Eliza Madrigal: "I don't do lunch" I said, lol.... but now I'm thinking of something I could do
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Eliza Madrigal: maybe just make coffee and buy some pastelitos
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe he'll take you dancing instead :p
Eliza Madrigal: :) sigh, hope he can just get the air going
Eliza Madrigal: so so so hot
Agatha Macbeth: The air stopped?
Eliza Madrigal: something is going on, so stops and starts
Eliza Madrigal: at night it gets very hot in the girls' room
Agatha Macbeth: Not what you want down there
--BELL--2.00
Eliza Madrigal: not at all... quite oppressive
Eliza Madrigal: How does the book Bleu shared look? Like something you'd enjoy going through?
Agatha Macbeth: At least you don't have to worry about fires like Cali
Agatha Macbeth: Oh maybe, will see
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes for sure :(
Eliza Madrigal: I have go get ready for the event now :)
Agatha Macbeth: OK
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for being here ^.^
Agatha Macbeth: Good to see you anyway, grey or not
Eliza Madrigal: sorry such a grey day for you
Eliza Madrigal: make sure you upgrade
Agatha Macbeth: Only the bottom of you
Agatha Macbeth: But all of Bleu :(
Eliza Madrigal: aw, and she's so pretty
Agatha Macbeth: And my lines have been slow too
Agatha Macbeth: Yes she is :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: probably just need to upgrade or upgrade some settings at least
Eliza Madrigal: hope so!
Agatha Macbeth: Think Steve is AFK
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Stevie
Agatha Macbeth: See you whenever
Eliza Madrigal: nods, you may have to claim the log
Eliza Madrigal: bye for now
Eliza Madrigal: xoxoxo