The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: ah, got here, morning
Riddle Sideways: one of those days that everything is taking longer than usual
Adams Rubble: we are getting our first snow soon today
Riddle Sideways: oh dear
Adams Rubble: should not amount to much but it feels like winter
Riddle Sideways: mean, oh Joy
Adams Rubble: I have to go to a meeting in the middle of it
Adams Rubble: after the snow it is going to rain and rain and rain and rain
Riddle Sideways: oh Joy
Adams Rubble: that's the news from Lake Jersey
Riddle Sideways: wish we had some rain
Adams Rubble: yes, wish we could send you this
Riddle Sideways: mid-November
Adams Rubble: it is now official. NJ has 11 Dem Congresspeople and only one Republican
Riddle Sideways: and no rain yet
Riddle Sideways: wow
Riddle Sideways: is that called a blue wave?
Adams Rubble: The guy who wrote the "get rid of Obamacare" bill was just finally defeated
Riddle Sideways: did you go count all the votes
Adams Rubble: Blue Jersey
Adams Rubble: they counted and counted for a few days
Riddle Sideways: Mr. T said there is no need to count the votes
Adams Rubble: he says lots of things
Riddle Sideways: oh yes, he do

The Topic Starts Here: Good Intentions

Adams Rubble: I'd like to talk about intentions unless you have a topic you'd would like to discuss
Riddle Sideways: that is a great topic
Adams Rubble: Back in March 2015 I was in a group reading Shantideva
Riddle Sideways: got a really big pile of good intentions here
Adams Rubble: great!
Adams Rubble: and if I remember right, becoming a bodhosattva starts with intentions
Adams Rubble: he warns not to go back on them
Adams Rubble: but they are a starting point
Adams Rubble: Anyway, back in March 2015 I played with good intentions from a number of angles on my blog.
Adams Rubble: but one thing very much surprised me
Adams Rubble: I eplored from every angle
Adams Rubble: Even using a thesaurus
Adams Rubble: here is what I found there:
Adams Rubble: Synonyms for good intentions: generosity, compassion, affection, altruism, benevolence, cordiality, courtesy, decency, forbearance, gentleness, good will, goodness, grace, graciousness, hospitality, humanity, patience, solicitude, sweetness, sympathy, tenderness, tolerance, understanding, unselfishness, amiability, beneficence, charity, clemency, consideration, delicacy, heart, helpfulness, indulgence, kindliness, magnanimity, mildness, philanthropy, serviceability, solicitousness, tact, thoughtfulness, fellow feeling
Adams Rubble: and the opposites:
Adams Rubble: Antonyms for good intention: Animosity, hatred, hostility, ill will, indecency, indifference, intolerance, meanness, mercilessness, selfishness, thoughtlessness, barbarousness, cruelty, harshness
Adams Rubble: the thesaurus is suggesting that good intentions go further than I would have thought
Riddle Sideways: way interesting lists
Riddle Sideways: good guy / bad guys team lists
Adams Rubble: hehe
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: am spending time with each word
Adams Rubble: it would make a nice mantra
Riddle Sideways: well, "fellow feeling" sounds a little off
Adams Rubble: it might be an antiquated usage
Riddle Sideways: without having done this study, had thought Good Intentions were something that had, but never carried through on
Riddle Sideways: that one had
Riddle Sideways: *
Riddle Sideways: like having good intentions to type goodly today
Adams Rubble: yes so would I and there is a sappy country and western song that illustrates that :)
Adams Rubble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdRUI-m3p8U
Adams Rubble: Warning -- it is a catchy tune and will haunt you :)
Riddle Sideways: avoids link
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble pastes in lyrics to No one has to listen:

Mama always prayed that I'd be a better man than daddy
And I determined not to let her down
Deserted by the man she loved and left to raise four children
We were the local gossip of the town.

I promised her that I'd live right and not be like the others
But I wound up in jail on Christmas day
I told her I'd be home and not to worry 'bout my brothers
When I got home my mom had passed away

Chorus
And I hear tell the road to hell is paved with good intentions
And mama my intentions were the best
There's lotsa things in my life I just as soon not mention
Looks like I've turned out like all the rest
But mama my intentions were the best

A little boy with big blue eyes a-beggin' to go fishing
I promised him but never took the time
Now they won't let me see him and I sit here a-wishing
Wishin' I could hold him one more time
But mama my intentions were the best

Adams Rubble wipes away a tear
Riddle Sideways: yes, so sad. and sappy

Adams Rubble: long way from the thesaurus list
Adams Rubble: like I said, in 2015 I explored this from lots of angles :)
Riddle Sideways: Thesaurus is a guide, a bunch of suggestions, not exact rules
Adams Rubble: of copurse :)
Adams Rubble: words change meanings too
Riddle Sideways: of copurse
Riddle Sideways: love typos
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: in 3.5 years, how has the phrase changed?
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: I wasn't suggesting that :)
Adams Rubble: although they can change for an individual
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: good intentions can go two ways
Riddle Sideways: you use a lot of those words a lot
Riddle Sideways: compassion
Adams Rubble: They can lead to guilt feelings like they do in this song
Riddle Sideways: one of your favs
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: or good intentions can lead to non-SELFish actions
Adams Rubble: yes can lead to compassion
Adams Rubble: maybe good intentions are a pointer
Riddle Sideways: all the thesaurus words are good pointers
Riddle Sideways: unselfishness was in there
Riddle Sideways: all hard to be for the long time
Riddle Sideways: all high ideals to strive toward/with
Adams Rubble: yes, it is not easy
Adams Rubble: It is hard work
Riddle Sideways: might carry one until it gets to heavy then carry one of the others
Riddle Sideways: keep switching which and how carried
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: since they mostly mean the same thing
Riddle Sideways: according to Thesaurus
Adams Rubble: anything that works for us
Riddle Sideways: with slight twists that make slight differences to each of us
Adams Rubble: Westerners can get down on themselves because we have not learned to be gentle with ourselves
Riddle Sideways: oh Yes!
Riddle Sideways: getting down on self
Riddle Sideways: for having good intentions
Riddle Sideways: and not doing them
Adams Rubble nods
Riddle Sideways: not giving credit for getting them half done
Adams Rubble: Some people are doing far more than they realize (hint hint)
Riddle Sideways: picking on self for not doing All All the time
Riddle Sideways: /picks 'Grace' out of the list, looks at it, thinking can't do that very goodly
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: maybe grace hard to see in oneself
Adams Rubble: easier to see when one is the recipient
Riddle Sideways: that was a very nice long pause Bell
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: yes!
Riddle Sideways: unselfishness is hard to see in oneself
Riddle Sideways: compassion?
Riddle Sideways: can go very mental on compassion
Adams Rubble: it is easier to practice compassion
Adams Rubble: doing tonglen
Adams Rubble: seeking to understanding people
Riddle Sideways: laying awake remembering all the times compassion was lacking
Adams Rubble: treating people as not being separate
Riddle Sideways: then going back to breathing
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: being kind to our failings
Adams Rubble: seeing that we have the same failings as others around us
Riddle Sideways: like when driving a car
Adams Rubble: losing some of our "self" in the process
Adams Rubble: ohhh, driviing a car---eeeeee
Adams Rubble: me at my very worst
Adams Rubble: but slowly getting better
Riddle Sideways: yep, do that too
Adams Rubble: having lots of practice one day a week now
Riddle Sideways: good to have a weekly practice
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble has good intentions
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: NJ has such good streets, roads, turnpikes to practice on
Adams Rubble sings Mama I did not mean to drive over you with the car
Adams Rubble: (conversation stopper)
Riddle Sideways: the Opportunity to know that slow driver ahead is watching the pretty flower along the road
Adams Rubble: or imagine it anyway :)
Adams Rubble: and all those people cutting into instead of waiting in line--it is important they may have a medical emergency
Riddle Sideways: that "I have slowed down in front of you, for you guy, because it is snowing and you are going too fast"
--BELL--
Adams Rubble notes that randy Travis sings lots of sad songs
Riddle Sideways: ha
Adams Rubble: YouTube at work
Adams Rubble: YouTube is paved with good intentions
Adams Rubble: btw, I find the statement that hell is paved with good intentions unhelpful
Adams Rubble: heaven is also paved with good intentions
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: ok, wrote "YouTube is paved with good intentions" on a card to stick on monitor
Adams Rubble: I hope you have a very good day. I have good intentions about getting ready for my meeting this afternoon :)
Adams Rubble: I hope California gets some rain soon
Riddle Sideways: thank you
Adams Rubble: those fires are so horrendous
Riddle Sideways: this was really thoughtful topic
Riddle Sideways: air quality seems better today
Adams Rubble: :)
Riddle Sideways: you cleared the air
Adams Rubble: Ohh, I may miss the next three Thursdays. Not sure about Thanksgiving yet
Adams Rubble: we will doing some short trips
Riddle Sideways: oh, have great fun
Adams Rubble: will be here Mondays and Tuesdays, little one permitting
Riddle Sideways: yes, Thanksgiving will be busy
Adams Rubble: thank you for the discussion
Adams Rubble: bye for now :)