2021.02.25 07:00 - Discernment

    The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.


    Riddle and I had a visitor toward the end of the session

    Riddle Sideways: Good Morning Adams ㋡
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: here we are again. have already gotten the olde computer crash out of the way
    Adams Rubble: Good morning Riddle :)
    Adams Rubble: I hope the only crash
    Riddle Sideways: one can always hope
    Riddle Sideways: ㋡
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: The snow is beginning to do some melting here
    Adams Rubble: lots to go
    Adams Rubble: one hopes for Spring
    Riddle Sideways: so temp is up. good
    Riddle Sideways: Hope Springs eternal
    Adams Rubble: may be a second polar vortex though
    Riddle Sideways: That Vortex may have lost its polar
    Riddle Sideways: or path
    Adams Rubble: a bit like herding cattle. The forces herding in the cold air fall apart and the cattle escpae
    Adams Rubble: escape
    Adams Rubble: then run around US
    Adams Rubble: creating havoc
    Adams Rubble: and joing forces with the green deal to paralyze Texas
    Riddle Sideways: a Bull market in the chinese shop
    Adams Rubble: which topic would you like to explore?
    Riddle Sideways: some are pointing to a couple issues Texas brought on themselves in the energy area
    Riddle Sideways: getting rid of regulations was oh so good thing to do
    Riddle Sideways: and standardizing was a no good thing
    Adams Rubble: the little doggies are freezing

    I began what I thought were subtle moves toward a topic, in this case discernment

    Adams Rubble: Discernment
    Riddle Sideways: a Lone star state went it alone on making many grids that don't work together
    Adams Rubble: OK, the Yellow Rose has turned to ice
    Adams Rubble: Discernment
    Adams Rubble: Prajna
    Riddle Sideways: some how, some Texans wanted cheap electricity then, but expensive later
    Adams Rubble: prajna usually means wisdom
    Adams Rubble: but in the abhidharma is means discernment
    Adams Rubble: it means
    Adams Rubble: discernment needed to explore the nature of reality
    Adams Rubble: I like your coat btw
    Riddle Sideways: thanks. need a warm coat
    Riddle Sideways: the Eliza plot is snow covered now
    Riddle Sideways: and standing in the rainbird is mighty chilly
    Riddle Sideways: need a good coat
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: checking Webster for all the Discernment options
    Riddle Sideways: ok, thought to be funny about looking up Discernment.
    Riddle Sideways: but with a pause...
    Adams Rubble is surprised to hear that Eliza's plot got snowed on
    Riddle Sideways: first surprise was no advert to buy discernment cheaper and free shipping
    Adams Rubble listens
    Riddle Sideways: Florida people know what snow looks like ㋡
    Riddle Sideways: then there was a merriam-webster define link
    Riddle Sideways: then Wikipedia
    Riddle Sideways: then the next 123 were Christian writings
    Riddle Sideways: there sure are a Lot of writings that concern discernment
    Adams Rubble: hmmm, interesting about the Christian writings

    I had never heard of discernment used in a Christian context but after the session I found it is very important especially among Catholics. Priests and other religious must carefully discern their calling before making the commitment. Like Buddhism the ability to distinguish is an important spiritual trait.

    Adams Rubble: I meditated a bit on discernement as an important component of wisdom last night

    Adams Rubble: our ability to look clearly, without prejudice
    Adams Rubble: to make the right choices
    Adams Rubble: I guess not such a great topic :)
    Riddle Sideways: oh it is a good topic
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, was scanning all the others that have meditated on Discernment
    Riddle Sideways: and felt so moved to publish what they thought
    --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: this is like Wow there is a lot there
    Adams Rubble: before last night I had not thought much about discernment
    Riddle Sideways: before now, had not thought much about discernment
    Riddle Sideways: well, not by that one word
    Riddle Sideways: think a lot about how much time put into thinking of the best way to do something
    Riddle Sideways: and have somebody else come along and state that that way is Wrong
    Adams Rubble: well it depends whose discernment is better I guess
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: hehehehehehe
    Riddle Sideways: whoops meant hahahaha
    Riddle Sideways: not gender
    Riddle Sideways: however, EveryBody knows males are not good at discernment
    Riddle Sideways: it would not work to have report cards or hovertext that shows ones previous correctness of discerning matters
    Adams Rubble: sometimes males and females have a different perspective but their discernment powers are equal
    Riddle Sideways: because even the wrong people get it right sometimes
    Adams Rubble: yes about the preconditions like hover text
    Adams Rubble: the wisdom beyond our clouds is genderless
    Riddle Sideways: and how many times one scored better on varying levels of importance does not predict their next correctness
    Adams Rubble: I can hear the wind outside in the chimes on the porch
    Riddle Sideways: nice
    Riddle Sideways: Brings it back to the Texas wife of a ex-co-worker
    Riddle Sideways: and the questions of her Discernment
    Riddle Sideways: somehow got friended
    Riddle Sideways: and get these prayer blasts
    Adams Rubble laughs...uh oh, the discernment of social media topic
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: yep. there have been too deep of conversations here about social media
    Adams Rubble: I am going to try to use the word "discernment" only in relation to looking at the nature of reality
    Riddle Sideways: ok
    Adams Rubble: Because this is in text I must add that I am saying that with some humility
    Adams Rubble: and some determination
    Adams Rubble: not a vow but an intention :)

    A visitor joins us and I try to expalin what we are about

    Adams Rubble: Hello Luba
    Luba Radmussen: hello
    Adams Rubble: we are a Play as being group
    Adams Rubble: exploring the nature of reality
    Adams Rubble: have you been here before?
    Riddle Sideways: hi Luba
    Luba Radmussen: no, not
    Adams Rubble: we also record our conversations. Do you have any objection to be recorded?
    Luba Radmussen: no
    Adams Rubble: thank you
    Luba Radmussen: welcome
    Adams Rubble: this morning we are discussing the word discernment in relation to wisdwom
    Adams Rubble: wisdom
    Adams Rubble: yes welcome
    Adams Rubble: we have been meeting since April 2008
    Riddle Sideways: Adams had just said it in the context of exploring the nature of reality
    Riddle Sideways: Discernment
    Adams Rubble: it began with an exercise of stopping every 15 minutes and mediating for 9 seconds
    Adams Rubble: our founder called it the 1% tax for people too busy to mediatte
    Adams Rubble: our founder moved on after a few years but some of us have continued
    Riddle Sideways: therefore discernment gets to the discerning powers of each person as they perceive their reality
    Adams Rubble: none of us have the discipline to continue that mediattion practice but do find it helpful to stop and look at ourselves whenever we remember
    Adams Rubble: sometimes we can be surprised at what our mind is doing :)
    Adams Rubble: catch our mind unawares
    Adams Rubble: what thoughts are brewing
    Riddle Sideways: 9 seconds is about one really nice breath
    Riddle Sideways: use to use a timer gong app on phone to gong for 9 seconds every 15
    Adams Rubble: yes, I did too
    Riddle Sideways: a sound to ask "where are you"
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: who are you?
    Adams Rubble: are you experiencing positive or negative energy at the time you are wstopping
    Adams Rubble: if negative, can you stop it and shift to positive
    --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: otherwise it is so hard to get rid of our negative thoughts once they catch on
    Adams Rubble: somebody says somethign to get us made
    Adams Rubble: and we carry it around all day
    Adams Rubble: unless we are able to stop and see what is happening
    Adams Rubble: get us mad, not made :)
    Adams Rubble: ohh, as you see, we have a timer here that goes off approximately every 15 minutes and we pause for 90 seconds
    Adams Rubble: is useful sometimes to reset our conversation
    Adams Rubble: when we go off on tangents
    Adams Rubble: we usually meet for an hour
    Adams Rubble: sometimes go a bit overtime
    Riddle Sideways: often
    Adams Rubble: from 7-8 Second Life time on Tuesdays and Thursdays
    Adams Rubble: do you have any questions Luba?
    Luba Radmussen: not yet
    Adams Rubble: I have been going on and on :)
    Riddle Sideways: you have been saying what is in that notecard that can't be found in this inventory
    Riddle Sideways: wonder where that is
    Adams Rubble: the notecard got seriously out of date so I just rambled
    Riddle Sideways: good
    Adams Rubble: I sent you both an old card
    Riddle Sideways: Liked your direction on Discernment. was about to go afar on AI and Algorithms
    Adams Rubble: the meeting times are much fewer now
    Riddle Sideways: yes, use to meet 4 times a day
    Riddle Sideways: had many people back then
    Adams Rubble: are you familiar with the Abhidharma, Riddle?
    Riddle Sideways: all these cushions would be filled
    Adams Rubble: It is one of the older Buddhist writings
    Adams Rubble: is a list of 75 terms, that are considered to be like atoms
    Riddle Sideways: heard of it a long time ago. now muddled with so many texts
    Adams Rubble: one strings these terms together to make up every action that we do, every thought
    Adams Rubble: I am reading a book by Steven Goodman called The Buddhist Psychology of Awakening
    Riddle Sideways: just started attending a meditation group that takes one Sutra / one word a week
    Adams Rubble: It is Goodman who offers the word "discernment" as a translation for the sanskrit word prajna that usually is correctly translated as wisdom
    Adams Rubble: in abhidharma, prajna is the key to understanding all the other dharmas (the 75 words)
    --BELL--
    Adams Rubble: it is discernemnt that helps us chose correctly
    Adams Rubble: I am not recommending the book but giving the background form my interest in the word today
    Adams Rubble: I am rather chatty today :)
    Riddle Sideways: scanning Google results it also means not only Good from Bad, but better and best
    Riddle Sideways: primary and secondary
    Adams Rubble: well good and bad are dualistic :)
    Luba Radmussen: see you
    Riddle Sideways: when there were a lot more folks here, only the fast typers got the words in
    Riddle Sideways: ok, thanks Luba
    Adams Rubble: wow, that was fast
    Riddle Sideways: good to have a chatty Adams
    Adams Rubble: yes, that is true
    Adams Rubble: about the many typists
    Adams Rubble: and multiple threads going on at once
    Adams Rubble: with just two of us, we usually are able to keep it down to two threads
    Riddle Sideways: if one thought before typing it was lost
    Adams Rubble: I was a slow typer
    Adams Rubble: I should say slow thinker
    Adams Rubble: I can type pretty fast :)
    Adams Rubble wonders what Luba thought
    Riddle Sideways: yes agree
    Adams Rubble: omg what is this?
    Riddle Sideways: maybE
    Riddle Sideways: if one goes to a place named Perfect Paradise, ya might have a clue
    Riddle Sideways: but, here we are in animesh shops, rental skyboxes, skating rinks
    Adams Rubble: your bots help show my Mystitool hud is working fine
    Riddle Sideways: Mystitool?
    Adams Rubble: thank you for your presence here today and your comments about discrnment
    Adams Rubble: you don't have the hud that shows the people close by?
    Riddle Sideways: oh radar
    Adams Rubble: Fael introduced me to it many moons ago
    Adams Rubble: yes, I guess you can call it radar
    Adams Rubble: tour bots help populate the list :)
    Adams Rubble: keep going closer and further away
    Adams Rubble: from 62 to 77
    Adams Rubble: meters
    Riddle Sideways: yes, they are skating away
    Riddle Sideways: on the thin ice of a New Day
    Riddle Sideways: Jethro Tull
    Adams Rubble: it will be a while until we meet next Tuiesday
    Riddle Sideways: may you have exciting times
    Adams Rubble: thank you, and may your days be bright and sunny
    Riddle Sideways: by All and Thanks
    Adams Rubble: and any clouds be a reminder
    Adams Rubble: :)))
    Adams Rubble: bye for now

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