2014.10.19 13:00 - Cementified Vulnerabliity

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.


    Qt Core: Hi Korel, Bruce
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Korel Laloix: Is my hair visible in your view?
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Kori and Qt.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I can see your hair. np.
    Qt Core: yes
    Korel Laloix: OK.. interesting.. I can't see it.
    Korel Laloix: Oh well.
    Korel Laloix: Thought about shaving my head once... gives me a look... smiles
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Qt Core: i was told i would be thrown out from home if i do that ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: I had something strange happen during my session here yesterday. . . .
    Qt Core: do tell
    Bruce Mowbray: A naked woman came and within a few minutes she propositioned me for sex.
    Bruce Mowbray: Of course, I explained to her that I had been celibate for three times longer than Second Life had been in existence.
    Bruce Mowbray: and after a few seconds, she disappeared.
    Qt Core: i would say normal for sl
    Bruce Mowbray: but it was an interesting experience nonetheless.
    Bruce Mowbray: not normal for moi!
    Bruce Mowbray: She said she had been here many times....
    Bruce Mowbray: and her avatar appeared to be Japanese, as well as her name.
    Bruce Mowbray: so, different strokes for different folks.
    Korel Laloix: Is that a pun?
    Qt Core: i remember a nude avatar some days ago, no memory about her name
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, I suppose it could be a pun.... if you wish.....
    Bruce Mowbray: I could've posted the session... I even took a photo of her.... but then I decided it best not to do that.
    Korel Laloix: Still trying to get the concept.
    Bruce Mowbray: the concept?
    Bruce Mowbray: "Different strokes for different folks" is just a colloquial expression, Kori.
    Bruce Mowbray: (no pun intended.)
    Korel Laloix: I know that idiom. But the idea of puns I struggle with.
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhh!
    Bruce Mowbray: Now I get it.
    Bruce Mowbray: Some folks consider ponds to be the lowest form of humor, but I feel that they require some degree of linguistic sophistication.
    Bruce Mowbray: puns* (not ponds)
    Korel Laloix: Why low?
    Bruce Mowbray: I don't understand it either.


    --BELL--


    Bruce Mowbray: That you'll sometimes hear that expression: " Puns are the lowest form of humor."
    Korel Laloix: brb
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Qt Core: i love them and when played at the right times they are great
    Bruce Mowbray: I agree, Qt.
    Qt Core: then everyone has his own sense of humor and timing ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: (and thus, " Different strokes for different folks.")
    Korel Laloix: back
    Bruce Mowbray: wb, Kori!
    Bruce Mowbray: Are you back home yet, or are you still in Florida?
    Qt Core: wondering which strokes it is about, golf, brushing horses or one sown hair
    Korel Laloix: There was this silly navy movie where they said something like... He who puns would pick a pocket.
    Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
    Bruce Mowbray: perhaps calligraphy strokes.
    Korel Laloix: Back in Oklahoma.
    Bruce Mowbray: Great!
    Qt Core: that too
    Korel Laloix: Great to be back home, but will take a while to settle in.
    Bruce Mowbray: Enso, what you think of that?
    Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!  ("And, so, what do you….")
    Bruce Mowbray: [That, by the way, was a pun.]
    Qt Core: may i indelicately ask why you (as in the people in your mission group) aren't kept in quarantine to see if nobody got something ?
    Bruce Mowbray: The problem with puns is, once you explain that they are puns, they lose about 90% of their impact.
    Bruce Mowbray: Listens for more from Kori on this one....
    Korel Laloix: We were 4500 miles from the outbreak.
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow.
    Qt Core: Oh, ok
    Bruce Mowbray: 1 1/2 times the width of America!
    Bruce Mowbray: You were actually closer to the outbreak when you arrived back in Oklahoma - - - so close to Dallas!
    Bruce Mowbray: but it's not really an outbreak, of course.
    Korel Laloix: And they did take blood on the way out.... And we have a self monitoring regimen we are using.
    Korel Laloix: Very good question though.
    Bruce Mowbray: Excellent. I am very glad to hear that....
    Korel Laloix: Well, they did have a Marburg outbreak while we where there. But that is much less dangerous VHF.
    Bruce Mowbray: Do you feel that your work in Africa was accomplished, Kori?
    Korel Laloix: I know it will, but not sure the time horizon on it.
    Bruce Mowbray: hmmmmm.
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm guessing that you learned a lot in your dealings with the CDC.
    Bruce Mowbray: ( Center for Disease Control) -- based in Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
    Korel Laloix: Not really. But only because I was very familiar going in.
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Korel Laloix: Was good to see the highest set up though.
    Bruce Mowbray: How did the matter with the motorcycle turn out?
    Korel Laloix: Lots of smart and good people there.
    Bruce Mowbray: (I would hope they are smart and good!)
    Korel Laloix: Scary but we got what we needed.
    Bruce Mowbray: nods.
    Korel Laloix: One of a few times where I felt my life in danger when I was there.
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow.
    Bruce Mowbray: When that has happened to me -- something similar, feeling my life was in danger -- that turns out to be one of the most valuable experiences ever.
    Bruce Mowbray: It is always something that I'll remember for the rest of my life.
    Bruce Mowbray: You know, it also works the other way....
    Bruce Mowbray: instead of something that scares us to death, it might be something that pulls us out of the fear....
    Bruce Mowbray: something exponentially positive.
    Korel Laloix: I hope so.. I am trying to wrap the trip in a good way in my memory, but having a hard time doing it.
    Bruce Mowbray: I really do understand that, Kori.
    Bruce Mowbray: you had spoken of evil people....
    Bruce Mowbray: and I know of that experience myself.
    Bruce Mowbray: and it takes some working through, to be sure.
    --BELL--
    Korel Laloix: Still lots to think about for sure.
    Bruce Mowbray: You have an entire lifetime ahead of you... to enable these memories to gestate.
    Bruce Mowbray: I hope that my claiming the session will not put a damper on our conversation.
    Korel Laloix: I don't' think so.
    Bruce Mowbray: If there is anything that you wish me to delete from the conversation -- the one that will be posted in the wiki -- please let me know, okay?
    Korel Laloix: Not as of yet.
    Bruce Mowbray: kk.
    Korel Laloix: Thank you though.
    Qt Core: why would that, if not claimed someone could still get them from the autologger, i think
    Qt Core: +by
    Korel Laloix: Not sure how that works.
    Bruce Mowbray: Kori, I hope you understand that several of us have been very concerned about your welfare.
    Bruce Mowbray: I, for one, was quite relieved to hear that you were back in Florida.
    Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps, that is simply my ignorance about the geography of Africa.
    Bruce Mowbray: nonetheless, I was relieved.
    Bruce Mowbray: So, now it's not disease you need to deal with, but tornadoes!
    Bruce Mowbray: YAYYYY!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Qt Core: i always found this image about Africa size interesting: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-together.html
    Bruce Mowbray clicks
    Korel Laloix: Tornadoes are near an all time low... so not a lot there. More in danger of decapitation here.... frowns
    Bruce Mowbray: WOW! Size does matter after all!
    Bruce Mowbray: (Once again, Bruce's glad that his typist is a hermit . . . far from the decapitating crowd.)
    Bruce Mowbray: You might want to explain that one to Qt, Kori.
    Qt Core: have I missed some gruesome news ?
    Korel Laloix: I was surprised at how big Uganda was in person.
    Bruce Mowbray listens
    Korel Laloix: A Muslim guy decapitated a woman in Moore (Oklahoma) about a month ago.
    Bruce Mowbray: OOO MMMM GGGGGG!
    Bruce Mowbray: That's the same town that got hit by the tornado last year, right?
    Wol Euler: evening all
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Woly!
    Qt Core: hi Woi
    Korel Laloix: He was fired for a lot of reasons but decided to kill her evidently because she did not agree with stoning women to death.
    Qt Core: ah, ok, well... not really ok...
    Korel Laloix: But I need to read up more on the subject.
    Korel Laloix: heya
    Bruce Mowbray: I fail to understand why folks in the 21st century are identifying with medieval concepts of women and spirituality.
    Korel Laloix: Yes, there is a place near Moore that three of the most intense tornadoes on record cross paths.
    Bruce Mowbray: nods....
    Bruce Mowbray: and it hit those schools -- elementary schools, too.
    Korel Laloix: They are getting better at building the schools now.
    Bruce Mowbray: I would hope so.
    Korel Laloix: The last one that hit a school, there was only one death from that if I recall.
    Korel Laloix: The rest drowned to death in the flood basement as they could not get out.
    Korel Laloix: But I need to read to make sure of that.. been a while since I read.
    Bruce Mowbray: There were five children killed by a collapse of a building (an elementary school).... and drowned in the basement, yes.
    Bruce Mowbray: tragic stuff.
    Wol Euler nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: So, perhaps there is no safe place, after all.
    Wol Euler: "safe" is always relative, in all aspects and situations
    Korel Laloix: Depends on the tornado I guess, but in terms of deaths, the chances are very small compared to walking across the street.
    Wol Euler: yep
    Wol Euler: more people die from choking on aspirins per year, but you don't hear about them because it isn't dramatic
    Korel Laloix: We really are bad at judging risks.
    Wol Euler: yep :)
    Bruce Mowbray: So being human is really about the press that are stories get . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: stories are really big with humans, I've heard.
    Wol Euler: ah, I see that you are using dragon again, Bruce.


    --BELL--


    Bruce Mowbray: I apologize for leaving early but I need to get ready for a group coming up at the top of the hour.
    Bruce Mowbray: thank you all, good people.
    Wol Euler: bye Bruce, take care
    Qt Core: bye Bruce
    Korel Laloix: I ride a motorcycle and go camping alone and go to Africa.... so some call me reckless. I just make what I think are sound decisions based on what I know and can find out.
    Korel Laloix: Ciao Bruce.
    Qt Core: and then one would have to accept reasonable risks for the goals one choose to follow
    Wol Euler: right
    Wol Euler: a fireman's definition of "reasonable risk" will be different to an accountant's (probably)
    Korel Laloix: Very true... so I was ready to go on the Liberia contract...
    Korel Laloix: Still might if asked.
    Wol Euler: mmmmm?
    Korel Laloix: But only if they have us an armed guard and I can carry my own pistol.
    Korel Laloix: Would love to help, but getting killed for helping is not my idea of a good method.
    Wol Euler: agreed
    Korel Laloix: But I have a good job here... I think... strange situation there.
    Korel Laloix: And I think I have made a difference in it.
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: that's about as much as any reasonable person can ask of themselves :)
    Korel Laloix: I hope so. But we will see. I hope the lab gets some sort of Ebola contract. But I doubt that will happen.
    Wol Euler: good luck
    Korel Laloix: Thanks.
    Wol Euler: it would be interesting to be able to follow up on this trip in that way, I think
    Korel Laloix: Just need to get back to something like normal life now.
    Korel Laloix: When the samples actually get back to the US I might have go back down to Atlanta to help out. But not sure yet.
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: time for meditation
    Wol Euler: goodnight, good luck with your various endeavours, including avoiding tornadoes
    Qt Core: :) bye Wol
    Korel Laloix: Ciao
    Korel Laloix: brb...


    --BELL--


    Korel Laloix: Back.. but in and out.
    Qt Core: np
    Korel Laloix: What is the fall like there Qt?
    Korel Laloix: Leaves changing yet?
    Qt Core: yes, some are already brown, temps in the day are 18C if cloudy and 25C if sunny
    Qt Core: sadly heavy rains past week made heavy damage around Italy and at least one death
    Korel Laloix: That is not bad.
    Korel Laloix: I read a little about that.
    Korel Laloix: Hope your circle is OK.
    Qt Core: yes, I'm at least 200km away from the damaged places
    Korel Laloix: Good for you.
    Korel Laloix: know anyone personally affected?
    Qt Core: no
    Korel Laloix: Ok... thankful for that at least.
    Korel Laloix: The leaves are not turning her yet... but close
    Qt Core: i was thinking about the tornadoes you and Bruce were talking before, they are really huge nature events so one may evem say you can't really defend yourself, but here, only heavy rain and how we mistreated hour land and rivers
    Qt Core: *our
    Korel Laloix: Tornadoes are usually not the most damaging things in a storm. There is heavy rain, hail, flash floods, straight line winds.
    Korel Laloix: But when tornadoes go bad they go very bad.. mostly depends on location.
    Qt Core: yes, Genova, where the most damage was done is unfortunately a sea town with mountains just behind it so all the water fallen on those mountains end up in some little rivers and floods the town
    Korel Laloix: That does sound bad.
    Korel Laloix: And that sort of thing does long term damage


    --BELL--


    Qt Core: in past decades in bigger cities most little rivers were "cementified" as in covered and or made narrower
    Korel Laloix: That is a problem here as well.
    Korel Laloix: Silly building ideas trying to "fix" nature.
    Qt Core: i may find a little excuse in how urbanized and how little space we have in Italy, but in the USA...
    Qt Core: at least this is how we see the USA from here a land of great spaces
    Korel Laloix: I think our population density is much lower then Europe in general, but not sure.
    Qt Core: Italy 200/Km2 USA...32
    Korel Laloix: That sounds about right especially with Alaska in the mix.
    Qt Core: UK 232, France 119
    Qt Core: Germany 229
    Korel Laloix: No idea about all that.. Interesting.
    Korel Laloix: Which country is the worst?
    Qt Core: All in all http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/pop...s/ctypopls.htm
    Qt Core: all in all Monaco 16500
    Korel Laloix: wow
    Qt Core: then Singapore 7197 and Malta 1317
    Qt Core: but those are mostly one city states
    Qt Core: with Singapore the biggest one with 4 million inhabitants
    Qt Core: but then we have Bangladesh in 5th places, 1141/km2 but with 164 million inhabitants
    Korel Laloix: Very interesting...
    Korel Laloix: Might have to find less crowded place.. smiles


    --BELL--


    Qt Core: switching to the most populous cities is it interesting to note that the first 7 are all in Asia (then comes New York)
    Korel Laloix: Interesting.
    Korel Laloix: brb
    Korel Laloix: Sorry.. phone.. will be a while.
    Qt Core: I'll go, sleep time here, bye

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