2015.12.24 13:00 - Dream Session: False Conscience

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    The Guardians for this meeting were Mick and Eliza.

     


    --BELL--

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Cat
    Eliza Madrigal: Happy Merry
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Eliza :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: you too :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ty :)
    Eliza Madrigal: surprised to see you when you are in such an idyllic setting IRL
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :) his cousin is dropping by and he doesn't have much english, and my french is not up to that yet eaither :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ohh
    Catrinamonblue Resident: thought to let them visit without translations :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aph!
    Agatha Macbeth: Boo
    Eliza Madrigal: Happy Merry
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Aph :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Aggers :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi-so glad people are here
    Aphrodite Macbain: feeling a little sad
    Agatha Macbeth: So sorry I missed the skating
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh?
    Eliza Madrigal: sorry to hear that Aph
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hugs Aph
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm not top shape myself but maybe we can cancel each other out
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha! wow
    Aphrodite Macbain: wow indeed!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth ponders 'cancel each other out'
    Agatha Macbeth: Nice hair Cat!
    Aphrodite Macbain: do two negatives make a plus?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: merci :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes - pretty shape, pretty colour


    Agatha Macbeth: Can you tell us of your negative Aphie?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Christmas eve alone....
    Aphrodite Macbain: me and my TV
    Aphrodite Macbain: sniff
    Agatha Macbeth: Ohhh
    Aphrodite Macbain: Family at the other end of the country
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm so used to that I dont give it a second thought
    Aphrodite Macbain: friends visiting their families
    Agatha Macbeth: Strange
    Eliza Madrigal: (((( ))))
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hugs
    Agatha Macbeth: Poor Aph
    Eliza Madrigal: Earlier I was sort of wishing I was alone, lol
    Catrinamonblue Resident: sometimes it's hard to be alone
    Aphrodite Macbain: hehe
    Catrinamonblue Resident: and sometimes it's hard to be with people too :)

    Agatha Macbeth: You can be alone with other people too
    Aphrodite Macbain: too much to do Eliza?
    Aphrodite Macbain: true
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, all of the above
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's a combination of things
    Eliza Madrigal: definitely
    Eliza Madrigal: holidays amplify it all
    Catrinamonblue Resident: always
    Agatha Macbeth grabs a handful of nuts
    Agatha Macbeth: Er
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: That didn't come out sounding the way it was supposed to


    Eliza Madrigal: but we're festive... green and red red red
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes very festive :-)
    Eliza Madrigal chomps cookie
    Agatha Macbeth: Is Yule green and red because of holly?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: think so
    Eliza Madrigal: would make sense
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha
    Aphrodite Macbain: oops I forgot I left that jar and plate of brownies here
    Agatha Macbeth: Snowmen always seem to waer those colours too
    Aphrodite Macbain: I thin so
    Aphrodite Macbain: think
    Aphrodite Macbain: plus white
    Agatha Macbeth: Think thin
    Aphrodite Macbain: no more cookies
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Or chocolate
    Aphrodite Macbain: now that's hard
    Agatha Macbeth: (Oh noooooooo says Aph)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: People keep bringing chocolates
    Eliza Madrigal: I was looking for the right film to order for tonight... tried "Pee Wee's Christmas Special" but um, no

    Agatha Macbeth: I must say it's good to see you all again
    Catrinamonblue Resident: standard present ;)
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: HAve you been away Aggers?
    Eliza Madrigal: busy month Aggers? lovely to see you too
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that P.W. Herman?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... omg
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes Liz, over now [phew]
    Eliza Madrigal: ::claps:::
    Agatha Macbeth: I hear he's quite irritating
    Eliza Madrigal: I had a little extra christmas season work too, but it set all of regular "to do" things off pace
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes indeed
    Agatha Macbeth: Nothing is normal at this time of year
    Eliza Madrigal: PW IS irritating, but that's why I thought it would be so over the top as to be a great accompaniment with teens in the house. Grace Jones even makes an appearance


    Aphrodite Macbain: a little gift 4 u
    Agatha Macbeth: TY Aph
    Eliza Madrigal: ty Aph <3
    Aphrodite Macbain: yw
    Catrinamonblue Resident: ty :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: hang it on your wall or use it for wrapping
    Eliza Madrigal: bright
    Aphrodite Macbain: people bring chocyes!
    Aphrodite Macbain: there's something inside
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah...speaking of holly
    Aphrodite Macbain: something I painted in 2012
    Eliza Madrigal: I can't seem to open it yet....
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I remember this! Love love love
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh?
    Eliza Madrigal: so pretty Aph
    Agatha Macbeth: Cute
    Aphrodite Macbain: thanks :-)


    --BELL--


    Eliza Madrigal: (looking at Agatha's) How did you open it Aggers?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: beautiful Aph :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Rez the object Aph gave you and Rclick
    Agatha Macbeth: Then 'open'
    Agatha Macbeth: Tada
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: i think I may spend the rest of the day painting an amaryllis
    Agatha Macbeth: Are they yellow?
    Aphrodite Macbain: sport of like this
    Aphrodite Macbain: sort
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I wish I had some talent that way, I can't paint or draw at all
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh right
    Eliza Madrigal: aha :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I just wondered cos amarillo means yellow in Spanish I think


    Agatha Macbeth: You are fond of flowers then Aphie?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: pretty
    Agatha Macbeth: Like my mother
    Eliza Madrigal: likes to garden?
    Agatha Macbeth: Did like
    Agatha Macbeth: Gone 16 yrs now
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, hugs
    Aphrodite Macbain: Do u have a garden Aggers?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ty
    Agatha Macbeth: I do
    Aphrodite Macbain: what's in it?
    Eliza Madrigal: proper English one?
    Agatha Macbeth: And i really need to get it in hand before the summer
    Agatha Macbeth: It's starting to like like Angkor Wat or something
    Eliza Madrigal tries to picture that
    Agatha Macbeth: So much to do and so little time
    Agatha Macbeth: At least the grass doesn't grow at this time of year
    Aphrodite Macbain: LoL


    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Mick :) Happy Merry
    Agatha Macbeth: Micko!
    Mickorod Renard: Hi
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi Mick :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: have you a temple in your garden Aggers?
    Mickorod Renard: happy xmas,,sorry I am late
    Agatha Macbeth: Snowed under with kids?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hey Mick
    Mickorod Renard: sort of yes ags
    Agatha Macbeth: No Aph, I wish
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe I should make one
    Eliza Madrigal: want some more? some "young adults" acting like teens?
    Mickorod Renard: hi aph..sorry missed the party
    Eliza Madrigal: :P
    Agatha Macbeth has seen her young adults earlier
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh Mick, me too
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: came a day too early for me
    Mickorod Renard: yehh,,he he
    Mickorod Renard: :)


    Eliza Madrigal: the party was lovely
    Mickorod Renard: btw..Ara is away over xmas and hasnt internet connection
    Eliza Madrigal: oh
    Catrinamonblue Resident: wish I could have come but we were out :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :::waves happy merry to Ara::::
    Mickorod Renard: I was so anoyed I missed the party
    Eliza Madrigal: the setting is really nice... can skate anytime
    Mickorod Renard: i have just come down from that area
    Eliza Madrigal: the ice itself had a neat effect
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yay
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: do we know when San will take down the ice? how long we have?
    Aphrodite Macbain: San did a beautiful job
    Agatha Macbeth: Did Bleuji build it?
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh San
    Aphrodite Macbain: I found animations I didnt know I had
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: She's a wonderful builder
    Aphrodite Macbain: San put on the snow and ice
    Eliza Madrigal nods nods
    Eliza Madrigal: so what should we do to cheer ourselves? virtual jello shots? 


    Mickorod Renard: hey I just remembered part of my weird dream lastnight
    Aphrodite Macbain: virtual jello!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: haha imagine
    Agatha Macbeth: Ooh do tell
    Aphrodite Macbain: you are the BEST dreamer
    Mickorod Renard: ha ha ,,ty
    Eliza Madrigal: great, Mick
    Agatha Macbeth: Hey I just remembered it's Thursday!
    Agatha Macbeth: Woohoo
    Mickorod Renard: this was very odd,,i havnt typed it up
    Mickorod Renard: shall i do a quick recall?
    Eliza Madrigal: so just type it out
    Mickorod Renard: ok
     

    Mick's dream...


    Mickorod Renard: I was a young boy
    Agatha Macbeth: Go for it Mick
    Mickorod Renard: about 11 or so
    Mickorod Renard: in afge
    Mickorod Renard: and it was during ww2
    Mickorod Renard: I was english but somewhere I had ben caught up in germany
    Mickorod Renard: I was staying as a guest with some high up nazi
    Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
    Mickorod Renard: in some mountain retreat area
    Aphrodite Macbain wonders whether Mick has been looking at old movies
    Mickorod Renard: the dress was lederhausen or something,,leather shorts
    Mickorod Renard: and the place was so authentic
    Mickorod Renard: anyways
    Mickorod Renard: i had some wooden tablets
    Mickorod Renard: that had sort of writing on them
    Mickorod Renard: made out of wood like cigar boxeds were made of
    Mickorod Renard: the writing was like burned on
    Aphrodite Macbain: did they speak German?
    Mickorod Renard: i wanted to leave but it was unwise
    Mickorod Renard: no remeber talk
    Mickorod Renard: but I would try and rub off the writing


    --BELL--

     

    Mickorod Renard: and as the war closed towards an end I tried harder and harder to rub off the writing
    Mickorod Renard: ,,that was about it
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Closed toward an end' - I like that :p
    Mickorod Renard: it seemed to me that i had to make myself guilty to live there in safety but it was contrary to my beliefs
    Mickorod Renard: and as it looked as if I would be going home I had to clease my guilt
    Mickorod Renard: voila


    Eliza Madrigal: stay only as hidden as you need to
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Well that's interesting
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Eliza Madrigal: I think about questions like this a lot
    Mickorod Renard: yes?
    Aphrodite Macbain: wow
    Mickorod Renard: me too
    Eliza Madrigal: if I were born in such and such circumstances, etc
    Aphrodite Macbain: stay only as hidden as you need to .... interesting concept
    Eliza Madrigal: the extent to which I was and knowledge comes to reveal difficult choices
    Mickorod Renard: yes, like in the middle east.....might have to pretend to be muslim or something
    Eliza Madrigal: kids have t make choices like that all the time, loyalties and dependencies
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: pretending...
    Agatha Macbeth: Any idea what kind of writing it was Mick?
    Mickorod Renard: some do it for life saving reasons,,but others for profit
    Eliza Madrigal: can't afford to know
    Aphrodite Macbain: pretending and maybe hiding


    Mickorod Renard: well,,there wasnt hardly any writing and none I could quote,,but the sense was that it was my concience,,and that I had to give false concience
    Mickorod Renard: or else be sent to a camp or death
    Eliza Madrigal: false conscience ... what an idea
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Agatha Macbeth: Pseudo Jiminy Cricket
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Jimini junebug
    Aphrodite Macbain: what do you think it was really about Mick?
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe
    Mickorod Renard: tsk loomiing may have provoked it
    Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera Qt :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Qt :) Happy Merry
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Qt
    Agatha Macbeth: LTNS
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Qt
    Qt Core: Hi all
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi Qt :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: LTNS?
    Eliza Madrigal: how so, Mick?
    Mickorod Renard: and core beliefs
    Aphrodite Macbain: a task looming?
    Mickorod Renard: I have no awareness of conflict
    Eliza Madrigal: time space knowledge sessions
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah yes
    Mickorod Renard: and see tsk as an oportunity to expand my observational abilities
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: tsk tsk
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: that's a good way to look at it Mick
    Eliza Madrigal: not about beliefs

    Mickorod Renard: and as such I would find anything more iluminated afterwards
    Eliza Madrigal: What was that sign you guys found on the wall in Malta?
    Mickorod Renard: but i do fear
    Eliza Madrigal: fear?
    Agatha Macbeth: No parking?
    Eliza Madrigal listens and stops typing so immediately
    Mickorod Renard: sorry,,it ws part of what i was going to say but has no relevance
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Eliza Madrigal: don't tie yourself down to relevance or else we all have to, haha
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)

    Agatha Macbeth: Your head seems to be a pretty amazing place to explore Mick

    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Mickorod Renard: the sign in Malta?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Maltese cross?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... there was a Tarthang Tulku quote about beliefs
    Agatha Macbeth: Like an atiic with amazing things hidden away
    Mickorod Renard: ahh
    Aphrodite Macbain: inside and under things
    Agatha Macbeth: Maltese cross?
    Eliza Madrigal: that was there... was quite a synchronicity if I remember


    Mickorod Renard: I think there was alot of syncronocity there
    Mickorod Renard: the place was operated by an ex Jesuit
    Agatha Macbeth: Erk
    Aphrodite Macbain: there you go!
    Eliza Madrigal: hahha
    Mickorod Renard: but he catered for all folks and belief systems to hold meets there
    Agatha Macbeth: Didn't Lia find a cellar in Malta or something?
    Aphrodite Macbain enjoys the fact that she is eating a cookie exactly in time with Aggers
    Agatha Macbeth: Cookie sunc
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Agatha Macbeth: sync*
    Agatha Macbeth: Even
    Mickorod Renard: Lia found a celar in her head,,and we all visited one afterwards in our own heads
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: synk sank sunc
    Agatha Macbeth: Ahhh right
    Aphrodite Macbain: we did?
    Agatha Macbeth: Inremember something about her going down some steps
    Mickorod Renard: he he ,,those at the retreat
    Eliza Madrigal: stairway of heads
    Aphrodite Macbain: omg
    Mickorod Renard: me too
    Agatha Macbeth: (Erk my keyboard is having a breakdown)
    Mickorod Renard: it was an exercise
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Mickorod Renard: the idea was to descend steps
    Agatha Macbeth: I remember the cellar but not the context
    Mickorod Renard: i went down some spiral stone ones


    --BELL--

     

    Aphrodite Macbain: to go down into the earth?
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Agatha Macbeth: Subterranean descent...now there's a topic
    Aphrodite Macbain: to find your subconscious self
    Mickorod Renard: and eventually came to the end,,but it carried on sucking me along and I ended up being spat out as matter into another universe
    Mickorod Renard: like a rebirth
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh my
    Mickorod Renard: or rather,,maybe sprm eggs
    Agatha Macbeth: Sperm eggs?
    Mickorod Renard: or whatever,,if u catch my drift
    Mickorod Renard: something that would make a new creation
    Agatha Macbeth: Think maybe I missed that one
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Agatha Macbeth: Gotcha
    Agatha Macbeth: (I think)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Eliza Madrigal: re-creation
    Agatha Macbeth reads up
    Mickorod Renard: but i cant remember what others came up with
    Aphrodite Macbain: speggs
    Mickorod Renard: speggs sounds good
    Mickorod Renard: and also my memory may have altered it

    Agatha Macbeth: I definitely remember Lia saying something about it, but can't recall what it was...will have to re study the logs
    Aphrodite Macbain: nice Christmas angel on the fountain!
    Eliza Madrigal: I just think it is beautiful to have so much trust that you all went into that kind of sally together
    Agatha Macbeth: Awww yes
    Eliza Madrigal: ty Aph :) A friend gave this to me a few years ago
    Eliza Madrigal: first time she's been out to play
    Aphrodite Macbain: I dont think I was here when Lia was here
    Agatha Macbeth: Aunt Sally
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's pretty Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: she used to host thursday afternoons
    Mickorod Renard: nice
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: sally forth....
    Agatha Macbeth: German girl, living in US now I think
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: believe she got married, etc
    Aphrodite Macbain: must have been in 2010/2009
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
    Mickorod Renard: nice to see you back again ags


    Aphrodite Macbain: Before SL for me
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm pretty sure that was the first retreat when I was here
    Eliza Madrigal: somehow I think you've always been with us Aph :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: In Malta?
    Aphrodite Macbain: aww
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hope that's a good thing.
    Agatha Macbeth: Wait, wasn't that the one the Icelandic volcano delayed Wol on?
    Eliza Madrigal: quite, yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: omg
    Agatha Macbeth: Ahhhhh
    Eliza Madrigal: no that was New Orleans
    Mickorod Renard: snow delayed Wol
    Agatha Macbeth: Now i remember
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Aphrodite Macbain: I was here when u were in NO
    Agatha Macbeth: Bumsy
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes snow delay for Malta, which was the 2nd or 3rd retreat
    Aphrodite Macbain: There were 2 retreats in Malta I think
    Mickorod Renard: I picked Wol up from the airport with Ara
    Agatha Macbeth: I remember s/he got delayed by something
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh


    Catrinamonblue Resident: to let you all know, I have a friend looking over my shoulder for a moment :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: she says bonjour :)
    Agatha Macbeth waves to cat's friend
    Aphrodite Macbain makes ure to be polite
    Aphrodite Macbain: sure
    Agatha Macbeth: Bonsoir cherie
    Eliza Madrigal: oh wait, was San Francisco that had the volcano incident
    Eliza Madrigal waves bonjour!!
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, right Liz
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello friend of CAt
    Agatha Macbeth: Poor wollie always seems to get delayed by something
    Mickorod Renard: Didnt the Frisco one include Stim?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :) She says thank you all for letting her see what SL was like and she has gone back to cooking :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: He lives there, no?
    Eliza Madrigal grins
    Mickorod Renard: have you heard from him lately?
    Eliza Madrigal: turned out very small...just Piet, Steven, Mark, Saki and me
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nice
    Mickorod Renard: great
    Eliza Madrigal: yes little check ins
    Eliza Madrigal: I think he is quite well
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh Saki...is she still in Italy?
    Mickorod Renard: I am so glad about that
    Mickorod Renard: I belive she is


    Aphrodite Macbain: I should go and make lunch. Thanks for being here everyone.
    Qt Core: Bye Aph
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks for spending time with us this holiday Aph
    Agatha Macbeth: I so miss all of our old friends
    Mickorod Renard: lovely to see ya Aph
    Eliza Madrigal: (((((((many blessings)))))))
    Agatha Macbeth: TC Aphie
    Aphrodite Macbain: Merry Christmas!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: bye Aph.. happy lunching :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: byee
    Mickorod Renard: merry xmas
    Catrinamonblue Resident: to you too :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hope you aren't lonely now! ♥
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Eliza Madrigal: she's decided she had enough of people now, hahah
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh...'bunch of nutters'
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Catrinamonblue Resident: lol
    Agatha Macbeth: Well we are a pretty unique crowd it has to be said
    Eliza Madrigal looks around
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I guess it does
    Mickorod Renard: yep
    Catrinamonblue Resident: ;_D


    Eliza Madrigal: :) I'm thankful for this refuge
    Mickorod Renard: me too
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Refuge: 'a place to flee to'
    Mickorod Renard: and also...i dont know anyone who I could have these deep chats with that we often do
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: rare
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh we're deep alright
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: the familiarity has become deep


    Mickorod Renard: in respect to tsk and dreams..I read something interesting...like about space..and how we make space in our heads for dreams

    Agatha Macbeth: It has too
    Eliza Madrigal: oh?
    Agatha Macbeth kicks her KB
    Mickorod Renard: interesting concept
    Eliza Madrigal: there is one meditation in TSK that is about "feeding space into space"
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    Mickorod Renard: I am sort of looking forward to tsk ..and looking at the mails I think a few are too

    --BELL--

    Eliza Madrigal: I think because of playing around in virtual spaces, we have really tangible experiences of full space and empty space, etc
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, was very surprised by all the interest
    Eliza Madrigal: so I'll do my best to be organized about it
    Mickorod Renard: maybe they havn't read the book yet,,he he
    Eliza Madrigal laughs wildly
    Eliza Madrigal: well, we will take it all lightly
    Agatha Macbeth: You wild thing you
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I am still reading Pistis sophia...I think that will be so much easier after tsk
    Eliza Madrigal: try to find the most interesting and accessible bits


    Agatha Macbeth: 'Wild thing, you make my heart sing'
    Catrinamonblue Resident: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: you make everything groooovy....
    Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
    Mickorod Renard: If you need me to do anything Eliza just say
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you, I will :)
    Mickorod Renard: :)

    Agatha Macbeth shines Mick's head
    Mickorod Renard: squeek

    Eliza Madrigal: also if you wish to take on anything in particular or focus in certain ways, just say
    Agatha Macbeth: eek
    Catrinamonblue Resident: IU'm going to try to read it but these things are usually way beyond me, I'm mostly going to be listening
    Mickorod Renard: ty Eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: Join the club Cat
    Eliza Madrigal: I think that's great Cat
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm going to try to do both :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: approach it freshly and also draw on experience, somehow


    Agatha Macbeth: I tend to rely on a kind of mental osmosis in these situations
    Qt Core: (should the fact that of its author many works translated in my language tsk isn't one tell me about its complexity ?)
    Mickorod Renard: thats what we will all do I think ..other than the lil projects
    Qt Core: ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: Qt,,your English looks as good or better than mine now
    Eliza Madrigal: Agatha's method wins
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: I'd better go... have a kitchen to clean....
    Qt Core: bye Eliza
    Catrinamonblue Resident: bye Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks for coming today <3
    Mickorod Renard: I am watching detective montalbarno now QT
    Agatha Macbeth: Clean well Liz
    Agatha Macbeth: Love to george
    Mickorod Renard: see you soon Liz
    Mickorod Renard: merry xmas
    Qt Core: i love both the books and the tv series
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) yes yes, have peaceful and wonderful evenings and tomorrows
    Agatha Macbeth: Happy Yule
    Eliza Madrigal: happy merry and all that jazz, good tidings to all and to all a good night
    Mickorod Renard: have a good one,,x
    Agatha Macbeth: Donner und Blitzen
    Mickorod Renard: yes Qt..mine is in subtitles..the Italian spoken seems very quick and with accent

    Catrinamonblue Resident: slips away for family gathering :)
    Mickorod Renard: great characters
    Qt Core: yes, it is almost in sicily dialect, just
    Agatha Macbeth: Slip well and enjoy Cat
    Mickorod Renard: bye cat..lovely to see ya
    Qt Core: bye Cat, have fun
    Catrinamonblue Resident: merry Chirstmas all :)
    Agatha Macbeth: ^.^
    Mickorod Renard: merry xmas
    Qt Core: it take a little to get used to it for northern italians like me too
    Mickorod Renard: take care
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Mickorod Renard: yes, sicilian too
    Agatha Macbeth: Does it ever snow there Qt?
    Mickorod Renard: in the north?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Qt Core: here in Milan, yes, almost every year
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh great
    Mickorod Renard: u got the alps at the norther extreme
    Agatha Macbeth: Wish it would snow here
    Mickorod Renard: erk
    Qt Core: usually just a few cm
    Agatha Macbeth: I know part of northern Italy used to part of Austria
    Mickorod Renard: its chaos here Ags..when it snows


    Qt Core: yes, northern Trentino area, in fact there they legally speak both italian and german (like they speak both italian and french in the north-west
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah right

    Agatha Macbeth: Does Anita Pallenberg come from there?
    Agatha Macbeth: I always wondered why she had a German name
    Qt Core: both the regions are "special statute region" due to their peculiarities
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Mickorod Renard: I like Italy
    Agatha Macbeth: It's like my name is German, but comes from France :p
    Qt Core: never heard of her, just checked her on wikipedia
    Mickorod Renard: Macbeth?
    Agatha Macbeth: The Queen in Barbarella
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Naww Mick, my RL name
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Agatha Macbeth throws water over you
    Qt Core: most italian winter sports champions have very "un-italian" names coming from those borderline areas
    Agatha Macbeth: Right
    Agatha Macbeth: I remember Tomba the bomba :p
    Qt Core: and horrible accents in their italian too ;-)

    --BELL--

    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Agatha Macbeth: Like geordies perhaps
    Qt Core: well he is one of the few very italian, from Bologna, where there are no mountains tospeake of
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh wow
    Agatha Macbeth: How interesting


    Mickorod Renard: do you do a bit of ski Ags?
    Agatha Macbeth: Hell no
    Mickorod Renard: ahh
    Agatha Macbeth: Way too dangerous for moi
    Agatha Macbeth: I like the quiet life
    Mickorod Renard: yeh, I am paying for my old activities now
    Agatha Macbeth: Too many grandkids? :P
    Mickorod Renard: its the damage that i did to my joints and wrist and collarbone
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Agatha Macbeth: Doing what?
    Mickorod Renard: snowboarding most I think
    Agatha Macbeth: Eek
    Mickorod Renard: never really fell off my motorbikes
    Agatha Macbeth: I've done that on the playstation, but that's as far as I'd go with it
    Agatha Macbeth: Tony Hawk et al
    Mickorod Renard: my learning curve was slow and long
    Qt Core: i won't do most of the things that positively ask for equilibrium
    Agatha Macbeth: And painful by the sound of it
    Mickorod Renard: very painful
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Agatha Macbeth: Poor Mick
    Agatha Macbeth: We learn from pain I guess


    Mickorod Renard: I think I was too old when I took it up
    Agatha Macbeth: The oldest swinger in town?
    Mickorod Renard: but I did get to teach my son to board when he was 6
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Qt Core: (this year is hard on skiers, no snow around, only fake/artificial mostly)
    Mickorod Renard: at the time I was the oldest I could see on the slopes
    Agatha Macbeth: Sorry to hear that Qt
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe they need to go further up the mountains
    Mickorod Renard: if they can get a little snow they can regenerate it from it
    Mickorod Renard: my friend used to go up the alps to do the glaciers even in the summer
    Mickorod Renard: but i think they have been in retreat for a few years
    Qt Core: i think that some rides starts above 2500 meters, ok, there there is snow
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Just goin to do the glaciers john, know what I mean'
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Agatha Macbeth nods @ Qt
    Agatha Macbeth: Hope Ara is OK
    Agatha Macbeth: Bet she's having nice weather
    Qt Core: southern italy is at around 16/18C
    Mickorod Renard: If I hear from her i will send your wishes on
    Agatha Macbeth: Please do
    Qt Core: or at least it was a few days ago
    Agatha Macbeth: Tell her to swim carefully
    Mickorod Renard: she will like that..ty


    Mickorod Renard: now then,,I have to go and bake some mince pies
    Agatha Macbeth: Ooh
    Agatha Macbeth: Already got mine
    Mickorod Renard: before midnight mass
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Agatha Macbeth knows it well
    Mickorod Renard: I had some but they vanished
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh, can imagine
    Mickorod Renard: burp
    Agatha Macbeth: Just lay off the booze
    Agatha Macbeth: Not good at your age <wink>
    Mickorod Renard: I am almost te total..but the other night I had 3 pints of guiness,,it was lovely
    Agatha Macbeth: To be sure
    Mickorod Renard: slept like an angel
    Agatha Macbeth: And dreamt about French women...
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,I'm off
    Agatha Macbeth: TC Mick
    Mickorod Renard: yes proberbly
    Agatha Macbeth: Happy Xmas to you and Morg and kids
    Qt Core: bye Mick, have fun
    Mickorod Renard: I had a sexy dream that i gave the other week
    Mickorod Renard: hang on
    Agatha Macbeth: Send me the NC :p
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Agatha Macbeth: Cheers
    Agatha Macbeth: This should be good
    Mickorod Renard: there u go,,qt has it too
    Mickorod Renard: ok..nite nite,,merry xmas
    Mickorod Renard: c u soon
    Agatha Macbeth waves
    Agatha Macbeth: Ciao Qt
    Agatha Macbeth: Merry Xmas
    Qt Core: Ciao
    Qt Core: Merry Christmas to you</wink>

    <wink>
    --BELL--</wink>
     

    <wink>Agatha Macbeth: Don't remember how to say it in Italian
    Qt Core: Buon Natale
    Agatha Macbeth: Ahh yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Buon Natale :)
    Qt Core: Grazie
    Agatha Macbeth: Prego :)
    Agatha Macbeth waves</wink>

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