2015.08.02 14:00 - Pavilion No. 4 Feedback Session

Bleu Oleander: shall we start?
Darren Islar: sure
Bruce Mowbray: Sure, let's.
Bleu Oleander: kk
Aphrodite Macbain: sure
Qt Core: ok
Eliza Madrigal: OK

Bleu Oleander: thank you all for participating in our pavilion project. btw, its not necessary to pause at the bell for our session today, as it might interrupt the continuity of our conversation.
Bleu Oleander: Thank you Darren for designing a pavilion for our pavilion project. A fun offering!
Eliza Madrigal: :) ::claps:::
Bleu Oleander: The working group has been compiling a list of points to consider when appraising the various pavilions and choosing which one we like best. The list can be seen here:

http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Events/PAVILION_PROJECT_2015

Let’s start our session with the last point on our list, SYMBOLISM, MEANING, METAPHOR, REFERENCES TO PaB TRADITIONS/HISTORY. Darren, what inspired you when designing your pavilion?

Darren Islar: actually the guardian meetings .. a more closed environment though open
Bruce Mowbray nods.
Darren Islar: for a long time there was only the base, simple, but effective
Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
Darren Islar: it was without all the copper, the middle part the dome, the elevator and the platform
Bruce Mowbray: (welcome, Xir)
Xirana Oximoxi: hello everyone! :)
Eliza Madrigal waves hello to Xiri
Bleu Oleander: hi Xiri
stevenaia Michinaga: waves
Qt Core: Hi Xir
Darren Islar: the wood and the colors givingit a natural look
Darren Islar: hey Xiri :)
Darren Islar: with the middle-piece came also the more steampunk look which I extended to a .... well little more
Darren Islar: there are no PaB symbols I have been inspired by, more my own feeling of what would feel comfortable to me, when I think of both openness and intimicy
Darren Islar: the tp was first to the little platform, but that gets annoying after a while, but I liked people to enjoy the view before descending down here ... I have made that simpeler now and it's easy now to fly in
Darren Islar: I'm not sure this would suit as our definit pavilion, but I sure had fun making it
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Darren Islar: that's it I guess
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: nice
Bleu Oleander Applauds ☆*¨¨*:•.•:¸.·'´★
Aphrodite Macbain smiles at Darren
Darren Islar: the fun part is also in the use of the cones
Xirana Oximoxi: enjoying doing it is great :)
Darren Islar: yes
Bleu Oleander: thanks Darren!

Bleu Oleander: shall we go around for comments?
Bleu Oleander: who would like to start?
stevenaia Michinaga: I can
Bleu Oleander: sure
stevenaia Michinaga: if that's ok
Darren Islar: sure
Eliza Madrigal: ^^

stevenaia Michinaga: I just jotted down a few notes :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: First of all I like the feeling inside but I do have a few concerns..
stevenaia Michinaga: A pavilion shouldn’t require operating instructions to “get in” even though “flying in” is an option in SL
stevenaia Michinaga: It looks nice (important) from afar but not truly accessible
stevenaia Michinaga: If it must be elevated, ramps or stairs are essential for seamless access
stevenaia Michinaga: The door to below the fire pit is interesting but not inviting (fire above), perhaps too many metaphors
stevenaia Michinaga: I love the tower with the chairs as a waiting space and the elevator from there down is fun.
stevenaia Michinaga: It is comfortable inside, I feel should be the same on approaching it.
stevenaia Michinaga: In general the materials chosen work well for me, the form is nice with the levels of seating the the cushion poses
stevenaia Michinaga: The dome above is nice but need a hole in it to let the smoke out (and exiting guardians)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Xirana Oximoxi: :))
stevenaia Michinaga: that is all... thank you for listening

Darren Islar: hahaha
Darren Islar: it's phantom
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Bleu Oleander: hey Aggers
Bruce Mowbray: {welcome, aggers]
stevenaia Michinaga: I must have hit my head on it
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha :))
Agatha Macbeth: Here I am
Qt Core: Hi Agatha
Darren Islar: hey Agatha
Xirana Oximoxi: hi Agatha :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hi Aggers
Eliza Madrigal: that was changed along the way Stevenaia so you may have tried earlier on
stevenaia Michinaga: very cosy inside
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: thanks steve
stevenaia Michinaga: ok, sometimes hitting your head once keeps you from doing it again
Agatha Macbeth: I was just listening to Ari playing the piano
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Bleu Oleander: I think I'm next?
Eliza Madrigal: sure
Aphrodite Macbain: sure
Bruce Mowbray listens
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Darren Islar: (QT, now I can't read mindful any different anymore than the meaning you gave to it :) )
Xirana Oximoxi: oh really! I did not know Ari played piano ...
Agatha Macbeth: Oh he does :p
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :))
Wol Euler: evening all, sorry I'm late
Qt Core: ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Wollie ♥
Darren Islar: hey Wol
Aphrodite Macbain: well....gre4at animations anyway!
Xirana Oximoxi: hello Wol :)
Bruce Mowbray: hi, Wol.

Bleu Oleander: Hey Wol :) 

Bleu Oleander: I’m going to use our basic framework we have come up with, to express my feelings about this pavilion. FEELING OVERALL AMBIANCE and BOUNDARY I feel a sense of playfulness when I approach this Pavilion. A special container feeling that encourages the playfulness and intimacy of our conversations … a campfire feeling. The sight lines are raised so the feeling is one of seeing out and above the daily pathways … a sense of openness at the same time as a sense of containment.

Aphrodite Macbain: waves at Wol
stevenaia Michinaga: hi wol
--BELL--
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth rubs her ear
Bleu Oleander: STRUCTURE

the structure feels like a contemporary sculpture and is a fun addition to the PaB landscape. I like the textures and colors but in some lights the patterns and colors seem too dominant, giving me a sense that the avatars are getting a bit lost in the patterns …
Bleu Oleander: I like the cushions and appreciate Darren’s efforts in creating the poses … not easy to do! I still don’t think we need more than about 12 - 16 cushions for the pavilion. Too many empty cushions creates the feeling that we’re expecting a lot of people but nobody is coming. For larger meetings the builders group is going to design a space that can accommodate bigger groups, so I personally don’t think the pavilion needs so many.
Bleu Oleander: FOUNTAIN / CENTRAL FOCAL POINT

The fire pit is an interesting change from the fountain, however I do prefer a fountain or water feature with the sound of water. Personal preference there as well.
Bleu Oleander: LIGHTING / mood / brightness

The lighting is nice at both day and night except as mentioned above, for me, can be intense at some settings. I do like the “fire pit” glow at the midnight setting. Gives a feeling of warmth.
Bleu Oleander: Thank you again Darren ! Overall I find this pavilion very fun and a nice change in feeling :) (done)

Aphrodite Macbain claps
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: Qt?
Darren Islar: thank Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: :) nods, helpful to consider
Darren Islar: and thanks Stevenaia, i forgto to say :)

Qt Core: ok, following the guidelines less strictly then Blue
Bleu Oleander: :)
Qt Core: it has some intimacy and that is nice
Qt Core: i really like it being raised and hw the tree come inside too
Darren Islar: yes
Qt Core: don't know why, nut i imagine as if always raining and we inside protected and warmed by the fire
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Darren Islar: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Qt Core: that said i can't cam around very well
Agatha Macbeth: Sausage time
Qt Core: the cushions, a little bigger than usual are nice but i'd like more poses that would seat me immediatly at first click
Qt Core: abput the (fire) fountain, good idea, maybe the container is a little too high and seems it separate us a little
Darren Islar: yes
Qt Core: (as blue i favor a water fountain for the water sound mostly
Qt Core: about the "playful " entranec, i thought that art had overshadowed functionality a little too much ;-)
Qt Core: sone
Qt Core: *done
Bleu Oleander: thanks Qt!

Eliza Madrigal: :) thanks Qt
Darren Islar: thanks QT
Qt Core: ty Darren

Bleu Oleander: Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: hm, so ambiance... Ever time I am in this pavilion I want to say how much I love the copper/rust, and the glow
Eliza Madrigal: I noticed the other day how nice that is with the edges of the tree leaves and the elevation into nature that way
Eliza Madrigal: boundary - find the pavilion imposing from the outside and far views and wonder about feeling of welcome to visitors
Eliza Madrigal: although as someone mentions, it does say 'here we are'
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Darren Islar: it's both true yes
Eliza Madrigal: when Darren said that the pavilion was inspired by the village hall, that made perfect sense
Eliza Madrigal: I feel like, these ideas are a bit more fitting for that kind of setting, and the fire also, which I like, but not for all the time
Eliza Madrigal: I guess that touches on structure too ...
Darren Islar: nods
Eliza Madrigal: I don't cam up or around as often in this pavilion. What I like is right here in this circle
Eliza Madrigal: the feeling of warmth and color
Eliza Madrigal: an ambitious and playful/imaginative work, very impressive Darren
Eliza Madrigal: done
Darren Islar: thank you Eliza
Bleu Oleander: thanks :)

Aphrodite Macbain: thanks eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, also, the new teleport right into the seating works great
Eliza Madrigal: very straight forward, nice improvement

Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Wol Euler: really? where is that? I didn't see it.
Agatha Macbeth pokes Wol
Wol Euler: seriously
Wol Euler: I'm looking now at ground level
Eliza Madrigal: right underneath us
Wol Euler: ah
Wol Euler: so people have to go inside ... okay
Bleu Oleander: tp's right up now
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: but it makes sense, findable
stevenaia Michinaga: under the fire?
Eliza Madrigal: path clear
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Bleu Oleander: works great
Eliza Madrigal: really done now, lol
Bleu Oleander: kk

Bleu Oleander: Aph?
Aphrodite Macbain: I too love the playfulness of the place, the warm welcoming colours and repeated patterns..
Aphrodite Macbain: I like the viewing tower but dont see it as related to the pavilion. It would be nice if we could have one as part of the buildings here
Bleu Oleander: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: The fire is nice on rainy or cold days but feels too hot on warm dry days - I wonder if it could be changed every fall and spring...
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: oops lost darren
Bleu Oleander: shall we wait a moment?
Aphrodite Macbain: I'll wait. :-)
Xirana Oximoxi: yes
Eliza Madrigal: bell thinks so
Bleu Oleander: ok thanks
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bruce gone too?
Bleu Oleander: poofed
Aphrodite Macbain: :-(
Eliza Madrigal: maybe storms
Aphrodite Macbain: windy out there
Agatha Macbeth: Hope the squirrels didn't get him
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Aphrodite Macbain: thought he was a nut?
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Eliza Madrigal: team up for an overthrow
Agatha Macbeth: Aren't we all?
Bleu Oleander: imagines squirrels attacking Bruce :)
Eliza Madrigal: carrying him on little furry shoulders
Aphrodite Macbain: :-) yes - tough ones
Agatha Macbeth: Arr
Darren Islar: 's current display-name is "leaping Panther".
Agatha Macbeth: WB Daz
Aphrodite Macbain: wb Darren
Bleu Oleander: ok wb Darr
Eliza Madrigal: wb Darren :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I think...
Wol Euler: http://www.savagechickens.com/2015/07/squirrel.html
Wol Euler: wb
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Darren Islar: so sorry about this
Bleu Oleander: we paused to wait for you to come back Darren, so you didn't miss anything
Aphrodite Macbain: I'll repeat my last remark:
Eliza Madrigal: maybe line just as poofing
Bleu Oleander: yes
Aphrodite Macbain: The fire is nice on rainy or cold days but feels too hot on warm dry days - I wonder if it could be changed every fall and spring...
Darren Islar: thanks ... I completely hit the wrong button and needed to restart
Wol Euler: oops
Agatha Macbeth: Erk
Xirana Oximoxi: wb :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I hate that :-)
Aphrodite Macbain: The fire is nice on rainy or cold days but feels too hot on warm dry days - I wonder if it could be changed every fall and spring...
Darren Islar: yeah, I do too :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Aphrodite Macbain: I find the place hard to get into - perhaps it's because I'm a klutz-but it makes the place less welcoming. Hard to find the tp spot if you dont know where it is (see Wol's remark)
Aphrodite Macbain: Love the art nouveau glass ceiling :-) Makes me wonder whether we could create a similar design using the PaB logo..
Aphrodite Macbain: done
Darren Islar: thanks Aph :)
Bleu Oleander: thanks Aph!

Eliza Madrigal: would be so nice to see new pab patterns
Bleu Oleander: I like the idea of incorporating some PaB patterns
stevenaia Michinaga: what happened to the chairs on the tower?
Darren Islar: I asked Eliza for the logo but turned out we don't have one
Eliza Madrigal: we have the one storm designed... the sunshine one....
Aphrodite Macbain: ?
Eliza Madrigal: but I'm not sure it is ours or Storms...
Aphrodite Macbain: yes- we have one
Xirana Oximoxi: we use Bleu's one I think
Bleu Oleander: we have several copies of the original one
Bleu Oleander: not sure who designed it
Darren Islar: there was a little confusion, since that logo was originally made for Kira
Eliza Madrigal: yes I guess we more often use the pab inspired birthday patterns
Aphrodite Macbain: nods
Bleu Oleander: Kira has a different logo I think
Darren Islar: Bleu if you can send me one?
Bleu Oleander: sure
Eliza Madrigal smiles at Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: I'm wearing a PaB halo
Darren Islar: thanks
Bleu Oleander: transparent ground?
Aphrodite Macbain: ?
Darren Islar: we make that mandatory from now on Aph :)
Aphrodite Macbain tries to look holy
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: Try harder ;-)
Darren Islar: I don't see anythign with the chairs Stevenaia
Darren Islar: grisn at Aph
Aphrodite Macbain: laughs
stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, I see ths shadows of them on the floor but not the chairts
stevenaia Michinaga: strange
Eliza Madrigal: Para placed some chairs there but I returned them when she couldn't be reached by email
Eliza Madrigal: it wasn't part of Darren's design, just added on the fly
Agatha Macbeth: Haven't seen her for ages
Darren Islar: I see the chairs as well
Wol Euler: the chairs look fine to me, check your display distance.
Aphrodite Macbain: spooky- shadows but no objects
stevenaia Michinaga: ok, my oversight..giggles
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, thought you were talkinga bout extra chairs
stevenaia Michinaga: on the tower
Aphrodite Macbain: the thrones?
Eliza Madrigal: mhm
stevenaia Michinaga: nods
Eliza Madrigal: you and stevenaia can sit there now
Eliza Madrigal: since wearing crowns
Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
Xirana Oximoxi: :)
Darren Islar: :)
Wol Euler: and toss coins to the unwashed peasantry below
Eliza Madrigal: "come...all weary...etc..."
stevenaia Michinaga: moving right along
Aphrodite Macbain: tosses bars of soap

Bleu Oleander: ok, Xiri?
Xirana Oximoxi: ok
Xirana Oximoxi: I find the pavilion very original and playful. I enjoy the colours and its warmness...the fire during summer may give a feeling of too hot while the rl temperature is also very hot, but during winter it will add a great feeling. :)
Xirana Oximoxi: maybe it would be possible to change it during different seasons..but as we are all from different parts of the world...not easy to fit for all :)
--BELL--
Xirana Oximoxi: I think you have improved the sitting poses very much...which I know is very difficult to do..congratulations Darren...
Xirana Oximoxi: I prefer the direct teleport ...I was a bit lost first time trying to sit here :)
Darren Islar: thanks :)
Xirana Oximoxi: I would prefer less different textures ... I also have the feeling that avatars 'desapear' a bit' even if I like the different textures of the cushions and the dome...
Xirana Oximoxi: I like the double ring of cushions. I understand that it may give the feeling of loneliness when there are a few avatars, but I find it invititng and it reminds of a big group...
Xirana Oximoxi: I think you have done a nice pavilion Darren, a bit too complex for my personal taste...but it is a nice renew for the pab group :)
Xirana Oximoxi: done :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Darren Islar: thanks Xiri
Bleu Oleander: thanks Xiri!
Xirana Oximoxi: you're welcome

Bleu Oleander: Wol?
Wol Euler: I'm not sure what to say. I think it's a fine pavilion in itself, with one or two reservations, but I am not certain that it is an appropriate pavilion for us.
Wol Euler: it's nice to be up in the trees, yes, that is very pleasant, but it does exclude people and things at ground level
Wol Euler: and I find the transporter solution to be still insufficient, I was looking for such a thing as i approached, and did not find it.
Wol Euler: I don't know what else to say. Done, for now.
Darren Islar: thanks Wol
Bleu Oleander: ok thanks Wol!

Qt Core: I sadly need to go, ty again Darren and bye all
Darren Islar: bye QT
Bleu Oleander: ok bye Qt
Wol Euler: bye qt, take care
Agatha Macbeth: Ciao Qt
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Qt
Darren Islar: thanks for coming

Bleu Oleander: Aggers?
Aphrodite Macbain: I too must go. Thanks for this. Cheers!
Agatha Macbeth: Well first up, I can really do without the fire...
Agatha Macbeth: (A) Because it makes me feel hungry all the time!
Bleu Oleander: bye Aph, thanks
Darren Islar: hehe
Agatha Macbeth: And (B) I feel like we should all be singing songs or something...
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Eliza Madrigal grins at Aggers
Aphrodite Macbain: lol
Darren Islar: bye Aph, tahnks for stepping by
stevenaia Michinaga: we did toast marshmellows here one night
Agatha Macbeth: Shows waht a misspent youth I had...
Aphrodite Macbain: I brought some weenies
Agatha Macbeth: Anyways
Xirana Oximoxi: bye Aph
Agatha Macbeth: But seriously I *do* prefer a fountain
Agatha Macbeth: The cushions are best yet for me
Agatha Macbeth: Nice and big and few poses
stevenaia Michinaga: fish swimming is nicer than coals burning
Agatha Macbeth: Which is good
Agatha Macbeth: I must admit I do like being up in the air now I got used to it
Agatha Macbeth: I don't find access a problem
Agatha Macbeth: Because being lazy I TPed in 1st time and made a landmark
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: :)
Darren Islar: hahaha
Agatha Macbeth: So no worries there
Xirana Oximoxi: hehe :)
Agatha Macbeth: Also the issue of it being hard to get out by flying, jumping has now been resolved
Bleu Oleander: jumping is good :)
Agatha Macbeth: Actually this colisseum arrangement reminds me of the old MICA sim
Agatha Macbeth: It is Bleuji
Agatha Macbeth: So yes this has quite a lot about it I like
Agatha Macbeth: The only real minus (apart from the fire)
Agatha Macbeth: Is that camming and camera angles seem restricted
Agatha Macbeth: Probably on account of the different levels
Agatha Macbeth: Otherwise I like it a lot, specially the feeling of security (group enclosedness)
Agatha Macbeth: Done
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Bleu Oleander: thanks Aggers!

Agatha Macbeth: YW
Darren Islar: thanks Agatha
Wol Euler: I'm curious about camming problems, several people have mentioned that. What is going wrong? because it works fine for me
Bleu Oleander: works fine for me too
Agatha Macbeth: Just me, YMMV
Darren Islar: I think it is in the settings
Darren Islar: no QT as well
Wol Euler: yes, but what actually goes wrong?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Eliza Madrigal: I don't cam much in this one...
Bleu Oleander: need to free your camera
Eliza Madrigal: mostly it is just about openness
Agatha Macbeth: When I pull out the wall gets in the way
Darren Islar: I should need to check it with normal settings, since that is what most use ... I have no camming problems at all
Wol Euler: what wall?
Agatha Macbeth: Behind us dear
Eliza Madrigal nods
Darren Islar: more so I designed this to be easy to cam ... grins
Wol Euler: you mean the trees?
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, forget I said anything
Eliza Madrigal: I can get around but I understand what Agatha means
Agatha Macbeth: Next!
Eliza Madrigal: oh stop :P
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: It is probably about preferences about how we like to see the group
Eliza Madrigal: and if I change views a few times during sessions it is alittle harder to manage and get different feeling angles
Darren Islar: yes, and there is a setting in which you can cam through prims
Darren Islar: but that si not default
Bleu Oleander: "disable camera constraints" is in my advanced menu
Agatha Macbeth: Oh, too technical for me :p
Eliza Madrigal: will try that
Wol Euler: ah, I see it now, ther is a transparent cone over the edge of the sitting area
Wol Euler: given that it is entirely transparent, we might do away with it?
Darren Islar: yes, but that's the problem, you will not be the only one Agatha
Agatha Macbeth: Thought that had gone?
Darren Islar: it's sadly a problem I can't solve
Bleu Oleander: alt cmd T ... can see transparent
Darren Islar: wait ...
Bleu Oleander: is there a need for the transparent cone now?
Agatha Macbeth waits
Darren Islar: how is it now Agatha?
Agatha Macbeth: Um
Wol Euler: try camming around and out
Darren Islar: with camming
Agatha Macbeth: Well the wall is still there :p
Wol Euler: no, darren just deleted it
Bleu Oleander: gone
Agatha Macbeth: All I'm saying is the steps make it harder than on the flat so to speak
Darren Islar: it might be in the wall of the pavilion itself
Wol Euler: okay
Darren Islar: I'll check it
Darren Islar: though I can't do anything about that
Agatha Macbeth: But if only Qt and me noticed, it's probably not a problem!
Eliza Madrigal: and me.
Bleu Oleander: when you took that wall, I think you took something from the outside too?
Agatha Macbeth: Well we forgive you Liz ♥
Eliza Madrigal: just this once? haha
Darren Islar: no
Eliza Madrigal: I just disabled camera restraints so am fidgeting...
Agatha Macbeth: You fidget anyway :)
Eliza Madrigal: I do
Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
Bleu Oleander: also the trees can block a camera, altho I'm ok with camming
Agatha Macbeth: Funny I haven't even noticed the trees
Bleu Oleander: lol
Darren Islar: oh I love that tree coming in
Bleu Oleander: so you see invisible walls but no trees ???
stevenaia Michinaga: I need to depart, thanks for listening
Eliza Madrigal: thx Stevenaia...
Agatha Macbeth: Ah i see what you did now Darren
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks Darren
Bleu Oleander: thanks steve
Darren Islar: thanks Stevenaia
Eliza Madrigal: I need to go too, daughter calling from trip
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Steve
Bleu Oleander: ok thanks all
Agatha Macbeth: Byee
Bleu Oleander: and thanks Darren
Eliza Madrigal: thanks so much Darren
stevenaia Michinaga: gulp
Darren Islar: thanks everyone :)
Bleu Oleander: █▓▒░░ A P P L A U S E ░░
Eliza Madrigal: thanks too Bleu
Xirana Oximoxi: bye steve
Eliza Madrigal: and all <3
Agatha Macbeth: Makes long-range camming easier
Wol Euler: goodnight all, thanks to Darren and Eliza and Bleu in particular
Xirana Oximoxi: I also go now....thanks Darren and all :)
Bleu Oleander: ok bye all
Darren Islar: thanks Xiri
Agatha Macbeth: It was close-in camming I was primarily bothered by
Bleu Oleander: ah
Agatha Macbeth: Think the fire doesn't help there too
Darren Islar: yeah, but same problems with a fountain
Wol Euler: the water spray from the old playgoda got in the way too
Agatha Macbeth: Fountains seem less obtrusive tho
Darren Islar: though the center piece is too big, I already noticed
Bleu Oleander: camming is an art :)
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe so Bleuji
Darren Islar: yes that might feel that way
Bleu Oleander: well, thanks again Darren
Bleu Oleander: great entry into our pavilion project!
Darren Islar: yw and thank you all for using it
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bleu Oleander: #5 and #6 still to come
Agatha Macbeth: Is San doing one?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: #6
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: after #6 Darren will put #1 back for a feedback session
Bleu Oleander: and then we'll start the voting :)
Agatha Macbeth: Art of pavilion
Wol Euler smiles.
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Bleu Oleander: thanks again
Bleu Oleander: take care all
Agatha Macbeth: Bye starry starry Bleu
Wol Euler: I shall head off too
Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care
Darren Islar: take care Bleu and thank you
Agatha Macbeth: Schlaf gut Wollie
Bleu Oleander: bye
Wol Euler: you too!
Darren Islar: see you around Agatha