Page last modified 22:52, 17 Aug 2015 by eden
2015.08.17 07:00 - Finding our hearts in inventory
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No headersThe Guardian for this meeting was Eden. The comments are by Eden.
Riddle, Eliza, Bleu and Raffi joined me for this session as I was "dipping my feet back into hosting waters".
Meeting in the new transparent Taj Mahal pavilion
Settling in
Eden Haiku: Hi Riddle! Happy to see you :)
Riddle Sideways: Hi Eden, nice that you are here
Riddle Sideways: :)
Eden Haiku: How do you manage to actually sit on the cushion?I tried but couldn't.
Riddle Sideways: just happened
Eden Haiku: Ah...
Eden Haiku: I like this pose with the feet in the water but...I would also like to sit on the cushion...
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: the animations labels are a little hard to understand
Eden Haiku: Have you seen the cafe at the Art Gallery level Riddle?
Eden Haiku: Hi Eliza :( Welcome!
Riddle Sideways: Hello Eliza
Eden Haiku: I meant ;)))
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden! Hi Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: yes, have been to the cafe and theater
Eden Haiku: I hadn't see the cafe before. It's great!
Eliza Madrigal: very sweet, yes
Riddle Sideways: the book are nice
Eden Haiku: This is such a new world to explore isn't it?
Eliza Madrigal: different ways of playing as being
Eden Haiku: Yes, I saw Middlemarch and the Wizard of Oz...That's great!
Eliza Madrigal: excuse me one moment, apologies... having barking hour
Eden Haiku: Barking hour hehe...
Riddle Sideways: ah, the barking hour :)
Eden Haiku: How did you jump back Riddle?
Eden Haiku: Do you play with the cushion y and x and Z?
Riddle Sideways: just trying all the pillow animations
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, that's a different pose
Eden Haiku: Ok, will try again...Thanks
Eliza Madrigal: (back)
Eden Haiku: Welcome back Eliza. Is George the puppy there with you?
Eliza Madrigal: Bleu did really well with this
Riddle Sideways: wb
Eliza Madrigal: He is now with my son, but was barking a lot before
Eden Haiku: Yes, I love this transparent Taj Mahal :)
Eliza Madrigal: if A isn't up by a certain time the dog really doesn't handle it well
Eden Haiku: Oh, not too good for a teenager who likes to sleep.. Does he?
Eliza Madrigal: exactly :)
Eliza Madrigal: technically the dog is his
Eden Haiku: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: but in practice :)
Eden Haiku: He is the one who insisted on having a dog I guess ?
Eliza Madrigal: he had asked since he was little
Eden Haiku: A dream come true....
Eliza Madrigal: and it was on the list of things I wanted to do for him
Eliza Madrigal: he will be grown soon
Eden Haiku: Watch for what you dream for...
Eliza Madrigal: ha ha
Eliza Madrigal: no kidding
Riddle Sideways: the "honest mom I will take care of him" pledge
Eliza Madrigal: tbh a friend had a tragedy that affected me and I had this sudden feeling of wanting to not put off anything
Riddle Sideways: /listens
Bleu Oleander: hi all :)
Eliza Madrigal: so it was "we're getting the dog, darnit"
A game changer
Eliza Madrigal: :)) Hi Bleu
Riddle Sideways: hi bleu
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Raffi :)
Eden Haiku: Hello Bleu ;)))
Eliza Madrigal looks at all the cushion options in play
Raffila Millgrove: hi all. sorry i can't seem to sit right.
Riddle Sideways: Hi Raff
Eden Haiku: Hi Raffi :)
Eliza Madrigal: that was odd, Raffi, maybe AO and cushion AO clashing?
Eden Haiku: I also have yet to master the cushion pauses..
Raffila Millgrove: could be.. was trying to fix that. carry on. i will figure out. sorry to interrupt.
Bleu Oleander: so nice to see you here Eden :)
Eden Haiku: No problem Raffi...
Bleu Oleander: and all :)
Eden Haiku: I'm so pleased to be here. Feeling a bit shy, after all these years...
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: Raffi I think you have an "arms" command on perhaps?
Raffila Millgrove: nah it's cool. i am ok now.
Bleu Oleander: your arms are stuck in your pockets :)
Eden Haiku: The new setting also, it has a different feel. Very relaxed. I'm amazed at your building skills Bleu.
Bleu Oleander: thanks Eden :)
Eliza Madrigal: this is a game changer
Eden Haiku: A game changer indeed...
Bleu Oleander: I tried to create a calm and cool (hot here in az) environment
Eden Haiku: The water element was already there and the lotuses but now, we can wet our feet...
Riddle Sideways: does a game changer mean that Play is now different?
Eliza Madrigal: I wonder
Bleu Oleander: play is now wet hehe
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Eden Haiku: I'm also wondering
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: having Played as Being the same way for a long time
Riddle Sideways: is this game changed?
Bleu Oleander: I think it evolves over time
Eden Haiku: One thing seems sure: many of us still want to be playing as being...
Riddle Sideways: having been so SET in the Storm land and builds
Riddle Sideways: trying a different playground
Bleu Oleander: environment and by that you can read "context" does matter, yes?
Riddle Sideways: arrangement
Eden Haiku: Yes, there was a familiarity, it anchored our experiences.
Eden Haiku: Now we have to create new anchors...
0000 Riddle Sideways: can anchored read as stuck
Eliza Madrigal: the balance of familiarity and outward venture
A touchstone
Bleu Oleander: what do you think about the rotation idea ... changing anchors?
Eden Haiku: I would rather a fixed pavilion, the one we will choose.
Bleu Oleander: I think I do too
Eliza Madrigal: me too
Bleu Oleander: but might welcome a change again in another 7 years :)
Oooo Riddle Sideways: sorry, the change often is nice
Raffila Millgrove: It's disconcerting to me to have new places .. but i accept it's evolution and one must move with the time
Eden Haiku: Otherwise, it's a lot of trouble for builders and also, we need a stable anchor in order to venture away
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eliza Madrigal: it isn't an easy choice though, for sure
Bleu Oleander: will be interesting to see how we vote
Raffila Millgrove: I lived in so many places in SL i've lost count.. for adventure reasons.. but i always kept one cottage as my "home".
Eden Haiku: Like a toodler who needs to know his mom is close by so she can venture away...
Bleu Oleander: certain comfort element
Raffila Millgrove: so I'd always have the "home", same thing here. I don't feel i have pab home anymore.
Raffila Millgrove: just me.
Bleu Oleander: a touch stone
Eliza Madrigal: like to have touchstone places, especially in SL
Eliza Madrigal: snap :)
Bleu Oleander: agree that :)
Raffila Millgrove: well at some point i guess we will have a home again that we'll get used to for PAB.
Bleu Oleander: which is one reason I like to "own" a plot somewhere in sl
Eden Haiku: A touch stone, yes, in order to build relationships, connections, a kind of unity, a spaceship of adventures into the "nature of reality"
Raffila Millgrove: it's just taking a long time to get it. which is ok. i understand the "why" for that. it's just taking a long time.
Bleu Oleander: San will design the next one and then we will have to decide
Eliza Madrigal: I sort of adopted the tea house in reiul as home. whenever needing to ground myself have gone back there, but it has been strange to lose the places here too
Bleu Oleander: at first I was for a one week trial ... but now a month seems right to test out and get a feel for each one
Raffila Millgrove nods. we probably should let Eden guide us into reality. lol
Eliza Madrigal: the retreat house is becoming familiar, especially since it carried over various elements
Raffila Millgrove: it is so nice Eden to have you as a host!
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Eliza Madrigal: it really is
Eden Haiku: Oh thank you Raffila. I feel very rusty... I wonder if onigokko works around a square pool?
Onigokko around a square pool?
We did "onigokkoed" twice and I took pictures of us going in circles around a square pool but my rusty SL photographic skills didn't work...Fortunately, Bleu had taken great pics.
Around a square pool
Bleu Oleander: lol
Raffila Millgrove: lol
Eden Haiku: onigokko
Eden Haiku: stop
Eliza Madrigal: @@
Bleu Oleander: hehe
Riddle Sideways: darn, have lost the tail
Eliza Madrigal: oops have to find mine...lost it in the wash
Eden Haiku: it makes wall on the water,,,
Bleu Oleander: rummaging thru my inv ... ah found it!
Bleu Oleander: onigokko
Eden Haiku: Typo (weird typo) i meant it makes you walk on the water...
Bleu Oleander: stop
Bleu Oleander: lol
Eden Haiku: ahhh!!! I already feel better...
Eliza Madrigal: need splashes
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Eden Haiku: Splashes would be wonderful!!!
Bleu Oleander: makes note :)
Eden Haiku: Onigokko was an anchor for me when I first came to SL. It made me laugh so much!
Remembrance of things past: a world record of one hour long onigokko!!!
Eliza Madrigal: ice breaker
Bleu Oleander: yes, I remember our world record oni ...
Eliza Madrigal: world record oni?
Bleu Oleander: over an hour lol
Eliza Madrigal: I missed that!
Bleu Oleander: about 5 or 6 pabbers
Bleu Oleander: a friday of course lol
Riddle Sideways: a Yaku favorite thing
Bleu Oleander: yes :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eden Haiku: My English is rusty, my SL skills are rusty, my hosting is rusty...my onigokko seems ok though. One hour onigokko, WOW!!!
Riddle Sideways: rusty is ok
Bleu Oleander: you don't seem rusty at all ... fitting right back in
Eden Haiku: I attended Yaku's session Friday. We onigokkoed!
Riddle Sideways: :)
Raffila Millgrove: i found my onigokko under objects where it shouldn't be along with a few hundred other things that shouldn't be there either. i face a long session of inventory sort/fil. Raffi groans.
--BELL--
Raffila Millgrove: oh you did. Friday. I love those Play Fridays!
Eden Haiku: Like this character in the Wizard, ah yes The Tin Man! What did he miss, a heart?
Bleu Oleander: should do the same but somehow never get around to it
Riddle Sideways: yes, a heart
Riddle Sideways: that he had
Riddle Sideways: but was not found in inventory
Riddle Sideways: easily
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eden Haiku: laughs at Raffila's remark on her inventory. You should see mine!
Eliza Madrigal: I thought a new avatar would fix that inventory dilemma but here I am
Riddle Sideways: seems to be 11 onigokko found in search inventory
Eden Haiku: onigokko
Eden Haiku: Ready Raff?
Eden Haiku: stop
Eden Haiku: Aaahh...
Riddle Sideways: whew
Stories yet to be told
Rusty reading fast chat lines, I created confusion by asking a question to the wrong person. I also missed Eliza's lines from earlier about why she finally decided to buy the dog, and here again. One of the stories yet to be told.
Eden Haiku: One hour, how was it Eliza? Tell us the story would you?
Eliza Madrigal: story? oh what prompted me to finally get the dog?
Eliza Madrigal: I wasn't there for hour oni, sadly
Riddle Sideways: lol
Eden Haiku: No, about the one hour onigokko session?
Eliza Madrigal: unless memory is faulty :)
Eden Haiku: Ah!
Eliza Madrigal: which could be the case!
Eliza Madrigal: (that was Bleu) :)
Eden Haiku: Well, I guess that could become boring...
Bleu Oleander: what was me?
Eden Haiku: Ah Bleu, do you remember the context of your onigokko frenzy?
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Bleu Oleander: oh the oni hour
Bleu Oleander: we just got started and it went on ... for about 1 1/2 hours I think
Eden Haiku: I bet all were standing up at their computers!
Eliza Madrigal: can remember some sessions where we'd stretched our philosophical muscles so far that oni was a huge relief
Eliza Madrigal: mundane marrying profound
Eliza Madrigal: or maybe mundane isn't the right word
Eliza Madrigal: like a happy balloon pop
Eden Haiku: Yes, me too. Mundane onigokko or sacred onigokko, who knows?
Eliza Madrigal: :))
A ritual of the lightness of being
The lightness of being
Eden Haiku: A ritual of the lightness of being...
Bleu Oleander: indeed
Eliza Madrigal: nice way to say that
Eden Haiku: There is this French non violent communication teacher I often listen too on You Tube.
Eden Haiku: Isabelle Padovani
Eden Haiku: She often talks about being tender with oneself
Eden Haiku: And with others
Eden Haiku: She is so marvelously funny
Bleu Oleander: have to look her up
Eliza Madrigal: that's helpful, subtitles?
Eliza Madrigal: I find it hard to trust anyone without a sense of humor
Riddle Sideways: googling came back all french
Eden Haiku: I'm afraid there are no subtitles, sorry. [I was mistaken, there are English subtitles in the first video— scroll down for the linkj
Eden Haiku: She's my new guru :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Riddle Sideways: :)
Bleu Oleander: humor is good!!
Eden Haiku: She says the little one inside is always looking for a grown up she can look up to :)
--BELL--
Eden Haiku: I know it's very true for me. Had so many gurus in my life...
Riddle Sideways: so many grown ups to look up to
Raffila Millgrove: oh is there a link to Isabelle?
Raffila Millgrove: i need to bookmark it to look at later? ty.
Eden Haiku: They all more or less thought about the "inner guru", but...
Eden Haiku: Let me find one...
Eliza Madrigal: Do you think all your gurus would get along with each other? [ a great question I missed ]
Eliza Madrigal: :
Raffila Millgrove: i find it strange that so many adults still need their parents .. ok... they want their adult parents to praise them still. little weird. see it all the time.
Raffila Millgrove: i have to be careful not to be critical of my adult children because they....sort of act like children .... even tho they are all grown up. .they are way sensitive over any criticism from me, the mother. seems odd to me.
Eliza Madrigal: if attachment needs are met then the need isn't so intense, supposedly
Eliza Madrigal: but then it is hard to imagine I could have been more 'there' for my kids and they seem to be taking a while to detach, hah
Riddle Sideways: over this weekend we had four 23 year olds here
Eden Haiku: Here is a link to Isabelle Padovani: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xontz7F_9c [ there are English subtitles to this video, little wheel at the bottom]
Riddle Sideways: the topic of your teenage years relations with mom came up
Raffila Millgrove: ty Eden. raffi listens to riddle...
Eden Haiku: Four 23 yo looking up to you Riddle?
Guide and not command
Riddle Sideways: how a mom can guide but not command
Riddle Sideways: how we go thru those years
Riddle Sideways: they are approaching the years that they might become parents
Riddle Sideways: to see those mental wheels turning
Riddle Sideways: some announcing that they could not do what their mother did
Riddle Sideways: better not to have kids :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Riddle Sideways: what class in a masters program to take
Riddle Sideways: to be a parent
Riddle Sideways: what a strange play that was
Eliza Madrigal: must be
Eliza Madrigal: but sounds like they are reflective Riddle
Eliza Madrigal: aware of sacrifices etc
Eliza Madrigal: I have said to my kids that they will never have pressure from me to have kids... that I will be happy either way
Riddle Sideways: they were really thinking
Eden Haiku: I totally relate to these young people. I never felt strong enough to become a mom.
Riddle Sideways: what if they had been their mother
Eden Haiku: But then I ended up being a mother to everyone :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Riddle Sideways: ty
Eden Haiku: I admire very much my young nieces and my nephew. They are all parents now and they are so competent it amazes me:)
Eliza Madrigal: can mother a project into being
Eden Haiku: I mothered books but I much prefer the little ones babbling and smiling and being sooo cute!
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Ooooo Riddle Sideways: am glad to live in a time when dads were allowed to mother kids also
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: indeed
Eden Haiku: Yes, isn't it wonderful Riddle
Eden Haiku: Young men are really good at it now
Eliza Madrigal: they support one another
Eliza Madrigal: I think that was missing before
Riddle Sideways: yep missing
Bleu Oleander: I remember my dad trying to be a mom one day a week lol
Riddle Sideways: dad class is completely missing
A lovely kind of mutual care
Raffila Millgrove: you know i had my daughter and husband and baby live here with me.. for almost 18 mos.. they just left. it was interesting to watch them.... the dad is incredibly good with the kid.
--BELL--
Raffila Millgrove: when she got to be a toddler he gave her a vitamin gummy every monring as he left for work. he was intensely involved with her.. even when he was at work.. he was inquiring about her etc. by text.
Eliza Madrigal: that's lovely
Eden Haiku: Oh, that's wonderful Raffi
Riddle Sideways: 18 months and now gone
Riddle Sideways: is there an empty?
Raffila Millgrove: he was really good with cutting her hair when she was tiny.. she had so much hair. i really enjoyed watching them together. he is Japanese. so that was even more interesting.. to listen to him in japanese iwt her etc.
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eden Haiku: She has her Dad's hair?
Eden Haiku: I love asian children's hair
Eliza Madrigal: there is a lovely kind of mutual care taking to some relationships and families, tending and details
Eliza Madrigal: my mom class was trying to do everything opposite... kind of exhausting eventually
Raffila Millgrove: they were here because they had been gone from US for years living in tokyo.. they needed time.. to get him a job, find apt.. get situated. i am happy they are now settled nearby in their own home.. they need to have little family unit growing together but i loved having them. miss the baby terribly.
Eden Haiku: How so Eliza?
Raffila Millgrove: opposite Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: just that I was smart enough to know family of origin was dysfunctional
Eliza Madrigal: and had lots of ideas and dreams
Eliza Madrigal: not quite enough skills
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eden Haiku: oh mine too. But dad missed his class a lot. Mom was better at it :)
Raffila Millgrove: oh you are speaking of your own upbringing. not matching the class?
Eliza Madrigal: well, our families are our class for our own?
Bleu Oleander: indeed
Eden Haiku: And we apparently chose them :)
Bleu Oleander: however, we can keep learning
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eden Haiku: exactly Bleu
ENEIS: a greek word that means "us"
Bleu Oleander: hard to break some patterns tho
Eliza Madrigal: takes a while to see them
Raffila Millgrove: i like what a therapist friend of mine used to say.. you see all the lights thru the windows of a block of houses at night and you imagine how happy the families are inside the houses.. and you don't know.. what's really inside that house. (referring to how dreadfully dysfunctional many families are and no one realizes who is looking in the windows)
Eden Haiku: Very hard
Bleu Oleander: even to see clearly is hard
Bleu Oleander: yes exactly
Bleu Oleander: imaginary comparisons
Eden Haiku: Did you ever hear about ENEIS?
Eliza Madrigal: hm, no... what is that?
Bleu Oleander: no
Eden Haiku: A greek word that means "us"
Raffila Millgrove: these "classes" tend to make people feel "lesser" sometimes.. that their experiences don't measure up. to the "ideal"
Eden Haiku: Instead of "ego" Padovani uses "eneis". Many parts constitute the ego and they don't agree most of the times.
Eliza Madrigal: how interesting, I like that notion
Bleu Oleander: very interesting ...
Bleu Oleander: the "us" within
Eden Haiku: So we have to carefully listen to each part and see what her needs are and then negotiate until all the parts agree for a course of action. It can take a looong time..
Raffila Millgrove: that is a different perspective.
Eliza Madrigal: sounds more accurate
Eden Haiku: yes, I find it very interesting. It seems all parts have good intentions.
Eliza Madrigal: I've always been fascinated by schizophrenia for that reason
Eden Haiku: Even the self-sabotaging ones. They just need to be heard and then taught.
Bleu Oleander: all parts have intentions, not all parts see the other's intentions as good perhaps?
Eden Haiku: Exactly
Eliza Madrigal: hmm
Eden Haiku: So, you step back, listen to all the parts in turns, then suggest them ways of action that would agree with all the parts.
Bleu Oleander: well I must go friends ... take care and thanks for hosting again Eden!
Eden Haiku: Some of them will then let go of their fixed position so you may find some peace.
Eliza Madrigal: ntsy Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: ty for the tshirt too :))
Bleu Oleander: bye for now :)
Bleu Oleander: yw!
Eden Haiku: Bye Bleu! Thanks for being here.
Bleu Oleander: hugs
Eliza Madrigal: I really like that Eden, makes sense
Eden Haiku: Hugs back
Eliza Madrigal: have some homework reading to do I think
Eden Haiku: I didn't give the correct link to the Padovani video before. This one is much better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzNUjoyr7mc [ no subtitles but to see her laughing right at the beginning reveals the tone of her teachings ]
Eliza Madrigal: she's cute, lively
Riddle Sideways: back
Riddle Sideways: darn RL phone
Eden Haiku: darn :))
Eliza Madrigal: I need to go...taking george to the beach for the first time today :)
Riddle Sideways: oh boy the beach, my best thing
Eden Haiku: Oh, have lots of fun at the beach Eliza!
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: thanks so much for dipping your feet back into hosting waters Eden :)
Riddle Sideways: ok ya'll have your best day
Eliza Madrigal: and thanks Raffi, Riddle for being here
Eden Haiku: Say hello to George the buddEha puppy!
Eliza Madrigal: I surely will <3
Eliza Madrigal: bye for a while
Eden Haiku: Yes, thank you all for coming to my first session back. I really appreciate. Hugs
Raffila Millgrove: yay. good to be with you all.
Raffila Millgrove: and ty again Eden.
Eden Haiku: You are very welcome Raffi, thanks to you! See you soon. I'm heading for the pool, it's very hot here :)
Raffila Millgrove: hot here too!
Raffila Millgrove: have a great day.
Eden Haiku: Climate change... Have a great day too!
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Love the title :)
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