2015.08.30 01:00 - Managing Memories

The Guardian for this meeting was Wol.

Qt Core: Hi Wol
Wol Euler: buongiorno, Qt. L'aqua é calda!
Wol Euler smiles.
--BELL--

Qt Core: :-)
Qt Core: i haven't gone to a pool (in rl) in years, so, obviously when they told me the nearby (200 meters) pool would be close all summer for renovation i worried about i could go for a swim ;-)
Wol Euler: heheheheheh
Wol Euler: typical human!

Qt Core: but i am curious about how it will come out as it is the pool i went as a kid to learn to swim and many other times after that
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: happy memories?
Qt Core: learning to swim ? no, i hated it
Wol Euler: awww
Wol Euler: me too actually
Wol Euler: and I still cannot swim well
Wol Euler: I am "mobile while not drowning" in the water
Qt Core: i went with a friends that needed to swim as a "mora;l support" ... i seemed like a fish, me ? like a stone
Qt Core: i=he
Wol Euler: understood :)
Wol Euler: some people do seem to take to it naturally
Qt Core: (like my sister, but she started at 3 months old)
Wol Euler: earlier is probably better
Wol Euler: the pool that I learned to swim in seemed huge to me
Wol Euler: but it's tiny, I could almost jump across it
Wol Euler: (exaggeration)
Qt Core: probably a 25mt
Wol Euler: oh no, really tiny
Wol Euler: perhaps eight metres wide and sixteen long

Qt Core: but there are happy memory too, in summer we often did something like this: sleep until 9/10 light breakfast, go to the pool by 12 when it would open, no, and i say no one else there until at least 2pm, but we would be gone by 1am ;-) and go home, almost wet under the sun to eat homemade hamburghers
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: lovely
Qt Core: no lines so you could really do whatever and after a while they knew us and even let us play with a ball, something that is absolutely forbidden ;-)
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: I'd imagine that there would be standing room only by about 4pm on the hottest days
Wol Euler: it's right to forbid balls at such times
Wol Euler: good that the supervisors felt able to make sensible judgements
Qt Core: yes, bureaucracy with common sense, weird ;-)
Wol Euler: the good old days, when people believed that their staff were mentally competent

--BELL--

Wol Euler: funny that a single summer of nearly fifty years ago can seem to take up as much memory space as an entire recent year

Qt Core: when doing such confront often the recent year is seen in ity "compressed" format or it is stored separately regard its major events, like the christmas when i got the red jacket isn't the same as christmas 2002
Wol Euler nods.
Qt Core: reminiscing about several christmas related memories and having no idea about the year more than the decade, let say ;-)
Wol Euler: mmhmm, me too
Wol Euler: picture retrieval works better than cataloging :)
Qt Core: when that happens i wonder if it would have been a good idea keeping a diary
Wol Euler: perhaps; but would you really skim a decade-worth of diaries to check that date?
Qt Core: not really, but somewhere down the years, near a fireplace, seated in an armchair with a blacket on my knees... ;-)
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: yes, perhaps that

Wol Euler: my father seems to enjoy looking at photos of our family history, even if he sometimes cannot name the people or places in them
Wol Euler: I feared that might distress him, at first, but he seems not to worry
Wol Euler: which is just as well, really
Qt Core: as usually one take shots of happy events it may help
Wol Euler nods.
Qt Core: i even wondered how one/me would write it, in prose form or schematic ? just fact or impression, as a decision tools maybe and how sincere to be (not being sincere would make it a little useless, but being so can be painful)
Wol Euler nods.
Wol Euler: and also, one's sincere impressoin on the day may not be what one thinks two years later, equally sincerely
Qt Core: sure, so one write a diary, then reread it after he changed idea and write so in the new entry and so on for a recursive diary...
Wol Euler: hypertext would work well for that, linking the original statement to a revision later on, and to the reasons for that change

--BELL--

Wol Euler: but hypertext is not as good as paper for our old age, I feel
Wol Euler: not as easy to use, and what to do when the electricity runs out?
Qt Core: strangely enough (or not) some for of mind map software, but wuith automatic link creation based on keywords
Wol Euler nods.
Qt Core: and spelling corrector too... ;-)
Wol Euler: heheheheh
Qt Core: even so many years of typing writing on paper is still more natural and less distracting
Qt Core: +after
Wol Euler nods.
Qt Core: (my handwriting is so much worse than my typing), one of my teachers define it not as orthography but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cacography (in italian those twp terms refer even to the graphic quality of your writing)
Wol Euler smiles.
Wol Euler: mine has become so poor that I myself can often not read it
Qt Core: yes, me too, switched to block letters many years ago
Wol Euler: I should probably do that :)
Qt Core: like in finland, the big titles says that they will not learn handwriting anymore, while they just stop learning cursive http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-f...where-30146160 (not sure if it is the right thing to do)
Qt Core: i agree about not insist on it, but a working knowledge... will they be able to read handwriting ?
Wol Euler: indeed
Wol Euler: and what will they do if they ever have to take a note and the batteries are empty?
Qt Core: (i always had problems reading "good" feminine handwriting, where everyting is curly and seems just oooooooooooo ;-) )
Wol Euler: people must learn to write for the same reason that they must learn basic arithmetic IMO

--BELL--

Wol Euler: the more I think about it, the more short-sighted and wrong-headed that decision seems to me
Wol Euler: how will taxi drivers give receipts?
Wol Euler: how will teachers correct students' work?
Qt Core: all in electronic or printed form ?
Qt Core: they will still learn block letter
Wol Euler: when I think about correcting schoolwork, doing so with a keyboard seems vastly slower and more difficult than a red pen on paper
Wol Euler: ah, right, yes
Qt Core: then how to sign, a block letter signature does not seem really secure
Wol Euler nods.
Qt Core: digital ids or wax seal
Wol Euler: mmhmm
Wol Euler: as the Japanese still do
Qt Core: (one of the people that most value handwriting)
Wol Euler: true :)
Wol Euler: handwriting as art
Qt Core: one of the few country where faxes are really still used as you can fax handwriting
Wol Euler: interesting
Qt Core: maybe x-pads, tablets and touchscreens, especially if horizontally mounted, may be used to handwrite on them
Qt Core: i never bought one myself but i always thought "why we don't more commonly use graphic tablets and stylos as input devices ?
Wol Euler nods.
Qt Core: (ty)
Wol Euler: (yw)
Qt Core: just using a stylo as a mouse should be more relaxing (i think), but maybe not as the wrist should be more angled...
Qt Core: ok, good, effective voice recognition it is then
Wol Euler smiles.
Qt Core: i need to, an octopus to cook
Wol Euler: heheheh
Wol Euler: take care, Qt, enjoy the day
Qt Core: you too, have fun!
Wol Euler smiles.