The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.
Ladies of the Round Table
[The suggestion of having a round pool to create a "round table" effect came from Eos at yesterday's feedback session, and Bleu had already modified her transparent pavilion accordingly].
Eden Haiku: Deer... brb
Bleu Oleander: ok :)
Eden Haiku: Sorry, I
Bleu Oleander: np :)
Eden Haiku: Had a bag of cut apples nearby :)
Bleu Oleander: ah nice
Eden Haiku: The little fawn and the mother
Bleu Oleander: sweet
Eden Haiku: Thank you for trying the round pool Bleu :)
Bleu Oleander: how do you like it?
Eden Haiku: We will experiment it for a week I think?
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: see how it feels
Bleu Oleander: I lowered the center a bit too
Eden Haiku: Ah, I see you made the center round as well, the fountain... It feels good.
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: I like it this way
Bleu Oleander: either is fine with me
Eden Haiku: Me too. I was getting used to the square one in fact...
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: I also made the floats a little more subtle
Eden Haiku: Yes, but once we know they are there :) [Was trying one of the subtel floats ]
Bleu Oleander: :))
Eden Haiku: Subtle yet we can use them if we feel like it...
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: I like the cushions being in a circle too
Eden Haiku: There are still corner seats,I like that!
Bleu Oleander: more inclusive
Bleu Oleander: yes ... but no so obviously corners
Eden Haiku: I mean with the animations lay on your tummy...
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eden Haiku: hehe
Bleu Oleander: and I can still take my overhead photos hehe
Eden Haiku: Less "cornery" but still available
Bleu Oleander: right
Bleu Oleander: "cornery" :)
Eden Haiku: Ah yes, the photo must look different from above now :)
Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: Morning ladies :)
Eden Haiku: Morning Lady Eliza :)
Bleu Oleander: we're talking about the round version :)
Eliza Madrigal: just taking it in :)
Eliza Madrigal: pretty this way too
Bleu Oleander: I would be happy either way
Bleu Oleander: I didn't think so at first, but I like this
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: it will help to have sessions and get the feel of it
Bleu Oleander: yes, see what everyone thinks
Eden Haiku: Taking pictures at sunrise, It's all rosy.. Lovely!
Bleu Oleander: I love sunrise
Eliza Madrigal: this one changes dramatically with lighting ... love that
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eden Haiku: How are you doing Eliza. Is your daughter settled in back at home?
Eliza Madrigal: I'm feeling stressed by all the hoopla actually :) happy she is here though.
Bleu Oleander: is she there to stay for a while?
Eliza Madrigal: Right now I'm typing from a computer that is sandwiched between futon and other daughter's bed
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eden Haiku: Yes, must be a lot of changes suddenly
Eliza Madrigal: yes, for a year roughly
Eliza Madrigal: so I had to resign the lease and defer my own plans
Eliza Madrigal: again
Eliza Madrigal: trying not to be small about it :)
Bleu Oleander: the joys of motherhood!
Eden Haiku: Having children is such a responsibility...
Eliza Madrigal: yes exactly
Bleu Oleander: but in a few years you will be looking back on these times as the "good times"
Eliza Madrigal: I'll restrain myself from the usual qualifiers about how delightful it is too...
Bleu Oleander: enjoy your times together
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eden Haiku: My brothers are still very concerned with the lives of their children who have their own children now :)
Fuzzy unicorns
Eliza Madrigal: woke to younger daughter at fridge in fuzzy unicorn onesie
Eliza Madrigal: haha Eden, yes it is like that
Bleu Oleander: hard to let children go on their own totally :)
Bleu Oleander: lol fuzzy unicorns
Eden Haiku: That's so cute Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: she is
Eliza Madrigal: I really do love having her around
Bleu Oleander: that's great
Eliza Madrigal: she has a big contagious laugh too
Eden Haiku: She will keep you young :)
Eliza Madrigal: just have to resettle and find my own hm...
Eliza Madrigal: something
Eliza Madrigal: adapt :)
Bleu Oleander: rhythms need to be reset is all
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eden Haiku: Finding your own unicorn Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Bleu Oleander: fuzzy or otherwise :)
--BELL--
Eden Haiku: That's a very deep thought. Finding one's unicorn...
Eliza Madrigal: "always be yourself, unless you can be a unicorn, then be a unicorn..."
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: one's inner unicorn
Eliza Madrigal: inner adventurous life
Eden Haiku: Until my thirties, I thought hippocamps were as imaginary as unicorns. Then I saw some, in an aquarium. What an epiphany :)
Bleu Oleander: they're so beautiful
Eliza Madrigal: they are!
Eliza Madrigal: dragon ones are amazing
Eden Haiku: ?
Bleu Oleander: that's where they got the name for the hippocampus structure in the brain
Eden Haiku: Yes :)
Eliza Madrigal: oh!
Eden Haiku: Shaped like a hippocampus
Bleu Oleander: fun to think that the center of memories is a hippocamp
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eliza Madrigal: ahh, cute
Eliza Madrigal: gearing up for travels Eden?
The refugee crisis
Eden Haiku: In a few weeks yes. But already organizing meetings in Paris :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: sighs ... Paris :)
Eden Haiku: I know:)
Bleu Oleander: might have to go to a french bakery today lol
Eden Haiku: I'm very saddened by the refugee crisis though.
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Bleu Oleander: oh yes Eden!
Eliza Madrigal: heartbreaking
Bleu Oleander: its hard to see humans treating each other in such horrible ways
Eden Haiku: We almost rented a studio near Austerlitz railway station but then I remembered there was a refugee camp there. So we changed location. Not brave enough to see their misery every day...
Eden Haiku: And we feel so powerless...
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eden Haiku: Read a long post online yesterday explaining the Sunnites and the Shittes split and so on, but I was as confused after reading it. It is such a chaos.
Bleu Oleander: crazy really
Eliza Madrigal: nothing that can be sorted by reason
Bleu Oleander: very emotional indeed
Eden Haiku: Why they flee is totally understandable. When you see the pictures of Syria. Nothing left...
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: that powerless feeling taken to a more drastic level
Bleu Oleander: survival
Eliza Madrigal: plus the feeling of obligation, that one should be able to do something, or know what they can't know
Bleu Oleander: so sad to see the kids who might be scarred forever by this trauma
Eden Haiku: Watched an excellent movie on Netflix about the Chechen refugees of 1999. Heartwrenching. It's called; :"the Search" [Found this link after the session:
http://www.festival-cannes.com/en/ar...year/2014.html)
Bleu Oleander: I compare to my childhood and think how fortunate I was
Eden Haiku: Yes Bleu, aren't we. I also compare my daily life, writing poetry, feeding deer, chatting on a computer to these refugees lives, carrying their children in their arms over borders, leaving everything behind them...
Bleu Oleander: yes feels terrible to me the comparison, so what to do?
Bleu Oleander: sometimes sending what money we can to agencies that are doing good work is the best we can do?
--BELL--
Eden Haiku: The Pope asked every parish in Europe to welcome a family of refugees...Wondering if this will happen.
Bleu Oleander: yes I thought that was great
Eliza Madrigal: it is happening in a few places spontaneously I
[After the session, Eliza sent me a link to this wonderful story about Icelandic people spontaneously inviting refugees into their own homes]:http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/truthdiggers_of_the_week_icelanders_who_opened_20150906
Bleu Oleander: the Pope is going to visit US soon
Eden Haiku: Canada's actual government is seeing terrorists everywhere and closing doors to refugees from Syria...
Bleu Oleander: will be interesting to hear what he has to say to US congress :)
Bleu Oleander: I read the US is taking a pitiful amount of refugees compared to other countries
Eden Haiku: Yes, I didn't know he was visiting US, interesting, At the UN?
Eliza Madrigal: our political climate is scary
Bleu Oleander: I think NYC, Washington and Philadelphia
Bleu Oleander: http://www.popefrancisnyc.org/
Eden Haiku: Thank you Bleu. He's coming very soon...
Bleu Oleander: this month
Eden Haiku: Sometimes, I just can't watch the news anymore nor open a twitter picture of more refugees in pain and struggling.
Eden Haiku: It happened to me during the Rwanda crisis as well.
Eliza Madrigal: sometimes I think one has to settle on figuring out what they can do, then step back
Eden Haiku: Contemplating our powerlessness...
Bleu Oleander: or push ahead and do more?
Eden Haiku: I guess sending money is about all we can do.
Bleu Oleander: perhaps more urgent than we realize
Eden Haiku: People in Austria and Germany are helping out in concrete ways.
Bleu Oleander: we can work through our politicians ... maybe :)
Eliza Madrigal: hah
Bleu Oleander: yes there are things we can do
Bleu Oleander: just hard to get going sometimes
Eliza Madrigal: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/28/chobani-ceo-giving-pledge_n_7460734.htmlEden Haiku: Read a story of a mother who brought soap bubble bottles and wands for children to play with.
Eliza Madrigal: read this today...maybe will spark others
Bleu Oleander: I think the world needs doers tho
Bleu Oleander: we're all connected ... small world really
Bleu Oleander: I had a red pepper the other day that had a sign on it that said it was from Holland!
Bleu Oleander: crazy stuff is going on
Eden Haiku: Read the article. Inspiring.
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eden Haiku: Yes, our food travelling the world...
Bleu Oleander: we are growing alfalfa in AZ, using up tons of water and then shipping it to China ... huh?
Eliza Madrigal: we're living in this confusing and amazing time where we are so aware of the whole world, yet also aware of reasons to mistrust our news, governments, etc
Bleu Oleander: yes
Bleu Oleander: so much to keep our eyes on
Eliza Madrigal: maybe not enough of an alfalfa market here Bleu? :)
Bleu Oleander: yes, but then why grow it?
Eden Haiku: Like, what is REALLY going on in Syria? So many things are hidden from our view...
Eliza Madrigal: right
Bleu Oleander: money and private interests are behind most things
Eliza Madrigal: and as long as war is a money maker there will be things behind the scenes
Bleu Oleander: yes!
Eliza Madrigal: so by the time common man knows anything....
Eden Haiku: Yes
Bleu Oleander: doesn't take long to feel frustrated!!
Eliza Madrigal nods
Bleu Oleander: ok so ... back to round or square? ha ha!
Fierce soldiers
Eden Haiku: In "The Search", one of the substories is showing how a cool pot-smoking young dude is made into a fierce Russian soldier killing in cold blood.
Bleu Oleander: did you read the story about West Point?
Eliza Madrigal listens
--BELL--
Bleu Oleander: awful what they encourage the freshman to do
Eden Haiku: no
Bleu Oleander: I'll see if I can find a link
Bleu Oleander: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/05/us/at-west-point-annual-pillow-fight-becomes-weaponized.html?_r=0
Eden Haiku: Tks Bleu :)
Eliza Madrigal: "annual fight way to build camaraderie"
Eden Haiku: "if you don't come back with a bloody nose" Humm. In the Canadian forces they also use sexual harassment, even rape of young cadets... A big scandal over here...
Bleu Oleander: awful stuff
Eden Haiku: All this to maintain wars and money flowing to arms and bombs and fighter planes...
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Bleu Oleander: yep
Eliza Madrigal: we sell arms (US) then fight those who have them
Bleu Oleander: crazy, right?
Eliza Madrigal: utterly
Eden Haiku: And depressing...
Eliza Madrigal: and very strange at a time when people are also becoming more conscious or "mindful"
Bleu Oleander: well some are :)
Eliza Madrigal: it really does feel like there are separate worlds playing out in the same place and time
Eden Haiku: Yes, so many contrasts...
Bleu Oleander: I don't run into too many "mindful" people
Eden Haiku: Angels of death and light battling in the field of our worlds
Eliza Madrigal: I've seen several friends and family members become more so, although in some ways it is just a new status difference
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eliza Madrigal: considers "the fields of our worlds" evocative phrase
Bleu Oleander: yes
Eden Haiku: In Paris, I'm going to attend a two days workshop with Isabelle Padovani, the woman I was telling you about...As a non-violent communication expert, I'm sure she will have her take on the refugees crisis...
Eliza Madrigal: oh, excellent
Bleu Oleander: nice
Eden Haiku: One more workshop :)
Bleu Oleander: I checked out her link ... all in french tho? or do you have any english links?
Eden Haiku: There is another great workshop with a German lady who seems fantastic: Nanna...
Eliza Madrigal: I tried the translated you tube but was confusing
Bleu Oleander: yes me too
Eden Haiku: Unfortunately, no, that link with English translation was the only one I found...
Eden Haiku: Sorry,
Eden Haiku: You might be luckier with Nanna Michael. Let me look. [All the links are in German and French...]
Eden Haiku: Nanna Michael.
Bleu Oleander: I will look her up ... thanks Eden
Bleu Oleander: must go now
Bleu Oleander: nice to see you both
Eliza Madrigal: I can't test out of the vimeos I found because of the computer situation right now... but I'm interested to see how nvc develops
Eliza Madrigal: you too Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: take care "deers"
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eden Haiku: Nice to see you two. Have a great day :)
Eliza Madrigal: you too
Bleu Oleander: you too!
Bleu Oleander: bfn
Bleu Oleander: hugs
Eliza Madrigal: hugs :))
Eden Haiku: There is a great NVC video with Marshall Rosenberg Eliza. Three hours long. The whole workshop.
Eliza Madrigal: I like him
Eliza Madrigal: I may have seen that
Eliza is kindly offering to stand in for me, hosting Monday morning sessions from mid-October to early December _/!\_
Eliza Madrigal: Eden, I'll try hosting in this spot on Monday while you are away, if you like...
Eliza Madrigal: just to keep the seats warm?
Eden Haiku: Cannot find the way to the research engine of my computer from Firestorm arrgh...
Eden Haiku: That would be so lovely Eliza :)
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: nice to have this time
Eden Haiku: keeping the seats warm is a good idea.
Eliza Madrigal: might help me too, to spend more time with SL sessions, since tiny apartment now has 4 people in it...hah... squeezed
Eden Haiku: Hard to attract new people to PaB, or even old-timers?
Eliza Madrigal: once the rhythm falls it is hard to get back
Eliza Madrigal: both personally and collectively
Eden Haiku: Oh yes,
Eliza Madrigal: and maybe still the question of what pab is and wishes to be
Eden Haiku: maybe if we send telepathic messages to CosmicFlower and Pila, Corvi and Moon and Star and Fael :)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: need trance time
Eliza Madrigal: ^^
Eden Haiku: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: I think that matters in the world....even in these dark times
Eden Haiku: I do too Eliza. Even if what we are doing is not clearly defined. We are gathering. We are talking. That is something.
Eliza Madrigal: yes yes
Eden Haiku: Even getting in touch with people living in other cultures doesn't happen that often. When we are travelling. but then we are travellers.
Eden Haiku: Here, we are crossing our national boundaries.
Eliza Madrigal: that's so true
Eliza Madrigal: if I think about all the conversations... and considerations after meeting with people here
Eden Haiku: Finding a common ground
Eden Haiku: yes?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: well so many people one might think couldn't be related to
Eliza Madrigal: and many selves too
Eden Haiku: true
Eliza Madrigal: like when bleu talks about taking a different vantage point in this pavilion...
Eliza Madrigal: not so square all of a sudden
Eliza Madrigal: so I've learned a lot
Eliza Madrigal: and usually come away more energetic
Eden Haiku: Me too.
Eden Haiku: I hope I didn't darken your day with my somber thoughts about refugees Eliza.
Eliza Madrigal: not at all
Eliza Madrigal: I'm in such a weird place and looking for the next thing
Eden Haiku: It's a sunny day here, the deers came earlier, I'm going to swim later on. But then, on the other side of the world...
Our inner puppies
Eden Haiku: This morning I discovered another workshop happening close to where I live, up the hills (not too far, rather).
Eliza Madrigal: feel the delight fully
Eliza Madrigal: and offer it upon everyone :)
Eden Haiku: With Nanna Michael. Six days of meditation workshop.
Eliza Madrigal: another shamanic one?
Eliza Madrigal: ooh
Eden Haiku: No, she's more into Vedanta I think
Eden Haiku: But I watch myself wanting to do one more, one more!
Eliza Madrigal: :) you're finding water in the desert
Eden Haiku: Staying quiet in my room should be my practice for a while :))
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Eliza Madrigal: I trust what your heart wants
Eden Haiku: maybe I will get enlightened at last and forever... HOPE...
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eden Haiku: Nah, I know this is my inner unicorn rising :)
Eliza Madrigal: hehehhe
Eliza Madrigal: thanks for being here :) I should get back to rearranging and take the dog for a walk before storms begin, as they do, every day now!
Eliza Madrigal: I love storms but he gets soo restless
Eliza Madrigal: my inner puppy too
Eden Haiku: Oh, yes, season of storms. Lovely for you to be here Eliza. See you soon:)
Eden Haiku: inner puppy hehe
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: okay bfn <3
Eden Haiku: hugs
Eliza Madrigal: ♥ ♥ ♥
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