2015.11.03 13:00 - Marble Runs, Soap Bubble Mazes, and Mini-Drones

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.

    [added later:  For anyone who doesn't know what a marbe run looks like, here's a CHAMP -- and it's made with parts manufactured in Italy, too:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwedBdWIRuQ   TWO HUNDRED METERS of track, culminating at the bottom of a swimming pool!]

    THIS is the one I'm currently building:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vFQbRw_sM


    Korel Laloix: osiyo
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Kori.
    ElanVitalo Resident: Hi, Kori.
    Korel Laloix: At work so in and out.
    Bruce Mowbray: np.
    Korel Laloix: Is there a topic today?
    Bruce Mowbray: Not yet.
    Korel Laloix: Oh Ok... smiles
    Bruce Mowbray: I've been working on a marble run all afternoon - after a busy morning running errands, doc appt, etc.
    Bruce Mowbray: So I'm sort of dull today.
    Korel Laloix: A marble run?
    Bruce Mowbray: But I have also been pondering how phenomenology reconciles intuition with "objects in themselves...."
    Bruce Mowbray: but that's just my peculiar mind at "work," or "play," as it were.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes!
    Bruce Mowbray: a wonderful marble run!
    Bruce Mowbray: I love 'em.
    Korel Laloix: But what is a marble run?
    Bruce Mowbray: The one I've been building today is a prototype for one I hope to build during the winter.
    Bruce Mowbray: One that will run the entire length of my house.
    Bruce Mowbray: A marble run.... Just a sec, please....
    Bruce Mowbray: Here are some cool ones:
    Bruce Mowbray: https://www.google.com/search?q=marb...w=1477&bih=744
    Bruce Mowbray: This is the one I am building today:
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/1412570...chn=ps&lpid=82
    Bruce Mowbray: It is definitely an ADULT toy.
    Korel Laloix: hmmm.. not a hobby I have every heard of... interesting .
    Bruce Mowbray: (and the manufacturer stresses that.)
    Bruce Mowbray nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: I like to improvise, of course.
    Korel Laloix: How did you get into that, Bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray: can't remember quite how I got into it -- years back...

    Bruce Mowbray: Well, I've made several

    Korel Laloix: Oh OK...
    Korel Laloix: I just stick with my running.
    Bruce Mowbray: I made one last year that I posted on YouTube.... "The world's ugliest and boring marble run..."
    Korel Laloix: lol
    Bruce Mowbray: I will find it. Just a sec, please.
    Korel Laloix: I will have to have a look.
    Korel Laloix: Osiyo
    Qt Core: Hi all
    ElanVitalo Resident: Hi, Qt.
    Bruce Mowbray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bb7-z_qCrM
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Qt.


    --BELL--


    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: (I trust you're watching the video.... he he)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Riddle.
    Riddle Sideways: hi All
    Qt Core: yup
    Bruce Mowbray: Here's what I made last year, Qt --- And am making a new one this year....
    Bruce Mowbray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bb7-z_qCrM
    Korel Laloix: OH fun.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, fun, indeed.
    Bruce Mowbray: Very Newtonian, too.  momentum and all that.
    Korel Laloix: The strange thing to me on that was how my brain tilted the picture.
    Korel Laloix: Was going to ask how you got the marble to go up against gravity.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, brains do that intuitively, which is what I've been contemplating today - as I build my new marble run.
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: One can make the marble "go against gravity," but only by building momentum, and then some things are sacrificed, like height.
    Korel Laloix: I found physics painful so not sure how fun I would find that.... smiles
    Bruce Mowbray hopes Elan doesn't rust whilst floating in the pool.
    ElanVitalo Resident: (titanium parts, stupid!)
    Bruce Mowbray feels stupid.
    Riddle Sideways: thanks, nice vid
    Bruce Mowbray: So, Qt - Did you check out http://www.slooh.com ?
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks, Riddle.
    Korel Laloix: I checked it out.. might give it a try.
    Bruce Mowbray: It's great for current celestial events.
    Bruce Mowbray: like eclipses, and fly-by asteroids, etc.
    Bruce Mowbray: (also saves one the cost of a telescope.)
    ElanVitalo Resident: Some of the contributors actually have excellent photos of galaxies up there.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Elan. Amazing, isn't it?
    Qt Core: just a peak, one of those think i try to stay away from or i would lose too many hours when not money on it;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Beautiful photos, too.
    Riddle Sideways: yes, QT
    Bruce Mowbray: Agreed, Qt.
    ElanVitalo Resident: When folks ask me, "How did you find the night sky out there in the country,"
    ElanVitalo Resident: I just say, "Well, I went outside at night, and there it was!"
    Bruce Mowbray: Elan is trying to improve his humor databanks, folks.
    Bruce Mowbray: please be tolerant.
    Riddle Sideways: worth working on
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, he needs a lot of work.
    Bruce Mowbray: Tends to make very technical "jokes" that no one understands.
    Bruce Mowbray: …like making puns on chemical formulas . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: way beyond me, for sure.
    Bruce Mowbray: So, marble runs...
    Bruce Mowbray: Am I the only one here who makes them?
    Riddle Sideways: had Marble Works when the kids were small
    Riddle Sideways: plastic pieces for making them
    Bruce Mowbray nods.
    Qt Core: i don't for sure, i will probably lose a few fingers trying to build such a thing ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Some of them can get extremely complex, like this one:
    Riddle Sideways: eventually got the racing set add-on
    Qt Core: (yes, I'm that clumsy with tools)
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/2720250...chn=ps&lpid=82
    Riddle Sideways: a gate to start 5 marbles at once
    Bruce Mowbray nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: I love to see gravity at work, so long as it's not working on me.
    Bruce Mowbray: I mean, no more than the usual ways.
    Qt Core: (while i love to watch Rube Goldberg machines ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: OH YES!
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, NOW I remember -- That's how I got started with them.
    Korel Laloix looks up Rube Goldberg
    Bruce Mowbray: (to answer Kori's question).
    Korel Laloix: https://www.rubegoldberg.com/
    Riddle Sideways: Toronto sci center has at least one
    Qt Core: i watched just this yesterday: http://www.wimp.com/slowest-rube-goldberg-machine/
    Riddle Sideways: think Chicago sci museum has one
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow. TY for that,
    Bruce Mowbray: I will definitely watch that later -- Maybe it will give me some ideas for my current marble run.


    --BELL--


    Bruce Mowbray: ha ha.  Rube Slowburg.
    Riddle Sideways: a turtle in it :)
    Bruce Mowbray: s...l....o....w....
    Bruce Mowbray: Last year's marble run (the one I make in my living room) took just over two minutes to complete.
    Bruce Mowbray: but nothing like this guy's Slowburg thing.
    Korel Laloix: OH.. it took the marble two mins to move, not two mins for you to build.. lol
    ElanVitalo Resident: ha ha.
    Bruce Mowbray: For sure.  Much longer than that to build, alas.
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Korel Laloix: I was thinking that did not sound that impressive... smiles
    Bruce Mowbray: Building a marble run takes a lot of focus and experimentation.
    Bruce Mowbray: They look simple, but they are not.
    Bruce Mowbray: Adding Rube Goldberg devices to them takes even longer to build, of course.
    Riddle Sideways: Training a turtle to race a course takes a while also
    Bruce Mowbray: I would think so.
    Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps it was intended to be a metaphorical statement.
    ElanVitalo Resident: Don't mind Brucie today, folks.
    Qt Core: a straight line toward food should not be hard, maybe make the ball passage 'lenient'
    Bruce Mowbray: I haven't watched the video yet, so I can only imagine the turtle....
    Riddle Sideways: Some airport has a marble run in a 3 x 6 foot glass cages
    Bruce Mowbray: YES! I have seen those! Fascinating, huh?
    ElanVitalo Resident fails to see what is so fascinating about gravity and momentum.
    Riddle Sideways: ideal for those 3+ hour layovers
    Riddle Sideways: to watch
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes.
    Korel Laloix: Still amazes me how much new things I learn in SL after 10 years.
    ElanVitalo Resident has never flown, nor had a "layover," so will give humans the benefit of my doubts on this one.
    Korel Laloix: Flying is highly overrated.
    Riddle Sideways: could build one in SL
    Qt Core: reminiscing about the little marble mazes (more than runs) on the top of the bubble soap containers i played with as a kid
    Bruce Mowbray: That would be cool. I used to have one, in fact.
    Riddle Sideways: couple days ago, rode a water slide
    Bruce Mowbray: let me see if I can find it.
    Riddle Sideways: bubble soap containers?
    Qt Core: little cylinders you can buy with liquid soap to make bubbles
    Bruce Mowbray listens, unable to find his SL marble run thingie.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, and they come with a long wand...
    Bruce Mowbray: or, mine did, anyway).
    Qt Core: and usually have a marble maze on the lid
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
    Qt Core: a maze as there was an hole somewhere where you should make the little marble go
    ElanVitalo Resident ponders "marble mazes."
    Bruce Mowbray: So, a sort of puzzle, Qt?
    Qt Core: and you moved the marble changing the cylinder inclination
    Qt Core: yes
    Bruce Mowbray nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: The marble run I am making right now has a "switch," so one can change rails... and run more than one marble on separate tracks at the same time.
    Riddle Sideways: have seen marble mazes, but never on top of bubble blowing container
    Riddle Sideways: Bruce, that is what the race set did
    ElanVitalo Resident: (!!) -- adds "bubble blowing containers" to database.
    Bruce Mowbray: really?!
    Riddle Sideways: splits and joins and jumps and funnels
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow.
    Bruce Mowbray: Cooooool.
    Bruce Mowbray: I think that building a marble run is something that one should try at least once in life. It gives one an appreciation for really simple Newtonian physics.
    Riddle Sideways: https://www.fatbraintoys.com/toy_com...P9gaAgW88P8HAQ


    --BELL--


    Bruce Mowbray: Yes! Great for kids, too!
    Bruce Mowbray: Amazing how much the young brain can gain from such experiences.
    Qt Core: i remember now something just a little like that i did as a kid
    Bruce Mowbray nods.
    Bruce Mowbray: Getting those neural pathways established early. Great!
    Bruce Mowbray: The Italians have the coooooolest marble runs on the market, in my opinion.
    Riddle Sideways: ah, marbles rolling around the neural pathways
    Qt Core: i usually took a chair and toppled it, then i would put the room carpet on it and then put some of the marbles i had on top of it and watched where they would end
    Bruce Mowbray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdZ7GPUdwD4
    Qt Core: don't know why my parents didn't like it ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: THAT is a marble run made by an Italian company. (in the video).
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: I think that's great, Qt.  Inquisitive child you were.
    Bruce Mowbray: Can't understand why your parents wouldn't agree.
    Korel Laloix: Back to RL.. ciao all
    Bruce Mowbray: bye for now, Kori.
    Qt Core: Bye Korel
    Riddle Sideways: bye
    ElanVitalo Resident wonders if making marble runs might be a "guys" thing.
    Qt Core: dust all around, marbles all around, and people stumbling on the toppled chair too ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Bruce Mowbray: and probably slipping on the marbles, too.
    Bruce Mowbray: a catastrophe waiting to happen.
    Riddle Sideways: or giving kittens marbles to play with
    Riddle Sideways: they go allllll over the house
    Bruce Mowbray: for sure!
    Bruce Mowbray: Maybe one could get marbles with GPS systems inside, for locating them easier, later.
    Riddle Sideways: oh, there was one
    Riddle Sideways: ummmmm, where was that
    Riddle Sideways: that fundraising site
    ElanVitalo Resident ponders the infinitude of Brucie's imagination.
    Riddle Sideways: a ball
    ElanVitalo Resident: GoFundMe
    Qt Core: Kickstarter ?
    Riddle Sideways: that was programmable
    ElanVitalo Resident: ?
    Riddle Sideways: yes, Kickstarter
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow.
    Bruce Mowbray: I think Kickstarter is a GREAT idea.
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: Democratic and innovative.
    Riddle Sideways: now there are several like it
    Riddle Sideways: be careful tho
    Qt Core: and i would end financing and buy half of the gadget proposed there ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: I funded a chap who wanted to make a movie -- and he eventually sent me a DVD with the movie on it.
    Bruce Mowbray: amazing.
    Riddle Sideways: almost bought a quad-copter yesterday
    Bruce Mowbray: Really!! Say more!
    Bruce Mowbray: a drone!?
    Riddle Sideways: yes, very nice drone
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow.
    Riddle Sideways: 2 mile range
    Bruce Mowbray: Could you put a GoPro on it?
    Riddle Sideways: steady cam and everything
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh wow!
    Bruce Mowbray: My farmers have a drone that they use to photograph the fields.
    Bruce Mowbray: I've watched (and videoed) them using it -- really fascinating stuff.
    Bruce Mowbray: Do you have to observe FAA regulations, Riddle?
    Bruce Mowbray: no higher than 400 feet, for example?
    Riddle Sideways: then there was a mini drone
    Riddle Sideways: fits in hand
    ElanVitalo Resident reads back and sees "almost bought"
    Riddle Sideways: indiegogo
    Riddle Sideways: was the site
    ElanVitalo Resident: indiegogo.com ???
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, went away to find history
    Riddle Sideways: yes
    Riddle Sideways: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/m...r-hand--2/hmid
    ElanVitalo Resident: Oh, more crowd funding.
    Bruce Mowbray: They've raised almost $3 million!!!???
    Bruce Mowbray is mesmerized by Riddle's video.
    Riddle Sideways: that is the little one, it was very tempting
    Riddle Sideways: the big one is almost better
    ElanVitalo Resident hopes Brucie doesn't get one and fly it inside the living room.


    --BELL--


    Bruce Mowbray: very tempting, indeed.
    Riddle Sideways: a way to carry the marble back to the start gate
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow! GREAT idea!
    Riddle Sideways: hehehehe
    Bruce Mowbray: I must go now. THANKS, folks!
    Riddle Sideways: yep
    Riddle Sideways: by
    Riddle Sideways: c'ya All
    Riddle Sideways: Oh, Elan
    Riddle Sideways: been meaning to tell you
    Riddle Sideways: too late
    Qt Core: Bye
    Riddle Sideways: bye QT

     

    p.s.  Elan returned to the pavilion and chatted briefly with Riddle - concerning Riddle's plot and "Botty." . . .  [to be continued. . . . ]

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