2015.11.10 07:00 - Chatbots etc.

    The Guardian for this interrupted/shortened meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

     

    Riddle Sideways: thank you, Listener Master
    ElanVitalo Resident: 's current display-name is "Elan".
    Riddle Sideways: welcome Elan
    Riddle Sideways: are those roller shoes that allow you to skate around
    ElanVitalo Resident: Good morning, Riddle.
                   --BELL--
    ElanVitalo Resident: I think they are ice skates, actually.
    Riddle Sideways: ice skates for warm ground?
    Riddle Sideways: oh well, what is in a name


    ElanVitalo Resident: Yes, isn't it wonderful what AI can come up with!
    Riddle Sideways: just saw that they were lots of emails about AI and yesterday's session
    ElanVitalo Resident: Yes!
    ElanVitalo Resident: It was a good intro session on the topic, I felt.
    ElanVitalo Resident: Do you know about Singularity 1 on 1?
    ElanVitalo Resident: The website?
    Riddle Sideways: ty, no, and probably should not read it now
    Riddle Sideways: did read a lot of wikipedia yesterday after the session
    ElanVitalo Resident: nods. Another excellent website for on-going AI stuff is http://techemergence.com/
    ElanVitalo Resident: The moderators of both of these sites interview current "bigwigs" in AI research.
    ElanVitalo Resident: Fascinating stuff to listen to while I'm out for walks.
    Riddle Sideways: ah, Bruce emailed many of the URLs that I was collecting
    ElanVitalo Resident: Yeah, he does that a lot.
    Riddle Sideways: for completeness, here are some others
    Riddle Sideways: re: chatbots: http://whitepapers.virtualprivatelib...0Resources.pdf

    ElanVitalo Resident: Brucie is at his morning meditation group right now, but he'll join us at 20 after the hour.
    Riddle Sideways: many are old and dead
    ElanVitalo Resident: Oh great! Thanks!
    Riddle Sideways: ok
    Riddle Sideways: however, you might be more the expert on AI
    ElanVitalo Resident: OH NO! Not I!
    ElanVitalo Resident: So, I am fascinated by your chatbot project.
    ElanVitalo Resident: Perhaps you could say some more about it?
    ElanVitalo Resident: (I notice that the link you just gave is all about chatbots.)
    Riddle Sideways: well chatbots are not defined as AI (mostly)
    Riddle Sideways: CleverBot that Aph was mentioning is stated as trying to be AI
    ElanVitalo Resident listens carefully.... They are more like the "Eliza" program of long ago?
    Riddle Sideways: but expanding Alice type AIML is not really learning
    ElanVitalo Resident: Cleverbots have "learning algorithms" in their software?
    Riddle Sideways: Eliza (not our friend here) was one of the first chat bots
    ElanVitalo Resident: Ahh, yes.
    Riddle Sideways: it [Eliza] seemed to always want to come back to asking about your mother :)
    ElanVitalo Resident: My typist wrote his own "Eliza" program long ago.
    Riddle Sideways: so did my typist :)
    Riddle Sideways: Alice got much better
    ElanVitalo Resident: It refused to discuaa anything but Shakespeare's Hamlet, about which it THOUGHT it was an "expert," ha ha.
    ElanVitalo Resident: discuss*
    Riddle Sideways: and many other chatbots were born off the Eliza and then Alice code/ideas and foundation
    ElanVitalo Resident: It was a sort of mesh between a chatbot and an expert system.
    ElanVitalo Resident: Can you say more about "Alice"? I don't think I know about that.
    Riddle Sideways: btw - there is a HAL bot the thinks it is Shakespeare and only discusses the plays
    ElanVitalo Resident: Wow. Cool.
    ElanVitalo Resident: When we talk about
    Riddle Sideways: think it probably is spelled A.L.I.C.E.
    Riddle Sideways: but ...
    ElanVitalo Resident: AI," we tend to treat it as if it were one big thing - when actually is is a host of very specific tools geared to very specific problems.
    ElanVitalo Resident looks up A.L.I.C.E.
    ElanVitalo Resident: http://alice.pandorabots.com/
                   --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: yes and yes
    ElanVitalo Resident: :) and :)
    Riddle Sideways: Pandorabots are still active and is on many websites
    Riddle Sideways: as greeters and sales and support
    ElanVitalo Resident: Does ALICE require "natural language" software?
    Riddle Sideways: Botty is based on a Pandorbot
    ElanVitalo Resident: Ahhhh! I see!
    ElanVitalo Resident: How does ALICE fit in with the open-source Watson software?
    Riddle Sideways: hold on.. while loooking in inventory
    ElanVitalo Resident: kk, take your time.
    Riddle Sideways: and we need to get to that
    ElanVitalo Resident: "Patience" is a skill I'm trying to learn....
    Riddle Sideways: you calculate so fast it is hard to wait for the meat to search thru inventories :)
    Riddle Sideways: note: this inventory is a huge mess
    Riddle Sideways: ah
    ElanVitalo Resident: oh dear.
    Riddle Sideways: in SL: Pandorabot METAbolt Add-on
    ElanVitalo Resident: Well, it's good practice for me to wait. . .
    ElanVitalo Resident listens.
    Riddle Sideways: starter kit sold by "The Truth & Beauty Lab"
           There is also "ActorBot" in SL and a METAbolt Add-on for ActorBot at Truth & Beauty Lab.
              Confusing/Complicated: AliceB Resident is many things: an Alt and an ActorBot object and a METAbolt for ActorBot


    Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
    Riddle Sideways: that is from wence Botty started
    Riddle Sideways: hiYa bRuce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Riddle. Hi, Elan.
    Bruce Mowbray: (Elan has just given me all of his notes on this conversation -- so no need to satch me up.)
    ElanVitalo Resident: Heay, Brucie.
    Riddle Sideways: good, ty Elan
    ElanVitalo Resident: yw.

    ElanVitalo Resident: oooops. Looks like we're going to get kicked out....
    Bruce Mowbray: So soon, too.
    Riddle Sideways: when Botty sees a "what is ..." question the code goes to Wolfram instead of Pandorbot
    Riddle Sideways: o dear
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, oh dear is right.
    Riddle Sideways: in 251 sec
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, I guess we'll just continue this at the 1 p.m. session.
    Riddle Sideways: and we had not gotten back to Alice
    Bruce Mowbray: Hate to just come and go, but seems SL has other ideas.
    Riddle Sideways: http://www.alicebot.org/articles/wallace/eliza.html
    ElanVitalo Resident: Bye for now, Bruce and Riddle.
    ElanVitalo Resident: See you later, I hope.
    Riddle Sideways: will return in 10 or so
          Sim did not come back while watching
    ElanVitalo Resident: ahhh, thaks for that link, Riddle.
    Riddle Sideways: bye for now
    ElanVitalo Resident: Bye for now.

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