2016.04.21 13:00 - TSK Session: Cliffhangers and Cosmic Eyes

The Guardians for this meeting were Eliza and Mick.

For more on this session, please see: 2016.04.21 - The Path from Ordinary to Great Time--An Overview and
 Time, Space, and Knowledge - Part 2 [TIME]

For links to the whole exploration: Time, Space, and Knowledge

Mickorod Renard: Hi Eliza, did I catch you bathing?

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu, nice boots
Agatha Macbeth: Oh nice pic
Mickorod Renard: Hi Bleu
Bleu Oleander: hi all :)
Agatha Macbeth: Bleuji :)
Eliza Madrigal: purple lighting
Eliza Madrigal: wanted to show my 'view'
Agatha Macbeth: Is that the pavilion?
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Agatha Macbeth: Cute
Bleu Oleander: nice rainbow
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tura :)
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like you just came from a pyjama party
Bleu Oleander: is rainbow spinning? or just me :)

Tura Brezoianu: hi all
Mickorod Renard: Hi Tura
Eliza Madrigal: I am having a little trouble getting the 'tv' to show a slide of the charts from the book, so I'll just drop them in manually
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden :)
Agatha Macbeth: Oh it moves?
Eliza Madrigal: these are pajamas... my only purple... upon sad news of another too soon loss
Bleu Oleander: hi Tura, Eden
Mickorod Renard: Hi Eden
Eliza Madrigal: lovely dress Eden
Eden Haiku: Hello :)
Agatha Macbeth: ??
Agatha Macbeth: Edie :)
Eden Haiku: A loss Eliza ?
Agatha Macbeth: You lost your pyjamas?
Eliza Madrigal: Hope Riddle can make it, he said he was looking forward to charts
Eliza Madrigal: Hm, no.... Prince
Agatha Macbeth nods
Agatha Macbeth: Prince died?
Bleu Oleander: :)
Bleu Oleander: yes
Agatha Macbeth: OMG
Eliza Madrigal: so young :(
Agatha Macbeth: How old was he?
Bleu Oleander: only 57
Eden Haiku: oh! Sad...
Eliza Madrigal: seems flu, strangely
Agatha Macbeth: Wow I didn't even know he was THAT old
Bleu Oleander: :)
Mickorod Renard: owww,,no Prince anymore
Agatha Macbeth: Poor old Prinny
Mickorod Renard: 57, ancient
Bleu Oleander: lol
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eliza Madrigal: in recent years he was more and more leaning into his artistry, having untangled from commercial machinery
Eliza Madrigal: in large part
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh
Eliza Madrigal: very inspiring

Eliza Madrigal: but... time for TSK today? :)
Agatha Macbeth: It isn't going to move then Liz?
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Agatha Macbeth: Oh
Eliza Madrigal: :) I can just drop the pictures in as we go
Eliza Madrigal: screenshots of the book
Agatha Macbeth: Great
Mickorod Renard: I always loved his stuff..
Eden Haiku: Oh Bertam is coming:)
Eliza Madrigal: oh, good
Mickorod Renard: wow
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eliza Madrigal: music takes us to particular times
Eliza Madrigal: it was a turbulent time in my family... around when purple rain came out
Agatha Macbeth: The colour purple
Eden Haiku: Hence the purple pyjamas:)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bertram Jacobus whispers : hi - pls don´t let disturb you ... and try to slip in silently ... ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Bertichen :)
Eliza Madrigal: lovely to see you Bertram
Eden Haiku: Hello Bertram :)
Mickorod Renard: ayup Bertieeeee!!!
Bleu Oleander: hi Bertram :)
Eliza Madrigal: we haven't really started with weekly reports yet...
 

Beginning

Eliza Madrigal: Is someone ready to begin? then we'll look at slides :))
Bertram Jacobus: did not work, the thing with "silently", obviously - damn ;o) - and ty all ! for the warm welcome ... ;-)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eliza Madrigal: hard to be sneaky in SL with visible name tag ^^
Bertram Jacobus: but now go ahaed pls ? *and blush a bit* reading now first a bit, listening * ...
Mickorod Renard: I am having great dificulty in these stages writing anything
Agatha Macbeth: :)

Mick

Mickorod Renard: I have a loss of confidence in my understanding
Agatha Macbeth: That is a beginning grasshopper
Mickorod Renard: but I could ramble
Eliza Madrigal: oh, any sense of why? or where it became murky?
Mickorod Renard: well, towards the end of chapter 7 I started to come out of the mist a bit
Mickorod Renard: and recalled some of what we did years ago
Mickorod Renard: then ,,always moving forward in the book one leaves the thoughts behind and thus forget to write up
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: it is okay not to write when it doesn't come easily
Eliza Madrigal: or to skip a week or reports letting things catch up, or sink in
Mickorod Renard: eventually making an observationeve
Mickorod Renard: lag sorry
Eliza Madrigal: oh, apologies, listening
Mickorod Renard: and that was the observation of the attachment to the conditioning to normal thinking
Mickorod Renard: the and
Agatha Macbeth: Thee and me
Mickorod Renard: done,,lag bad
Eliza Madrigal: It seems one of the aims of the reading is for us to look at that first... see the 'normal' thinking

Eden Haiku: The "and' , thanks Mick :)
Bertram Jacobus: [ is there a link for the text ? - i sadly lost it, sry ] ...
Agatha Macbeth: How I love that word
Eliza Madrigal: sure, let me give you the link to the outline page we're on
Mickorod Renard: cant type as bad lag,,sorry
Agatha Macbeth pats Mick's head
Eden Haiku: :)
Eliza Madrigal: (my browser isn't opening, so will be a delay in getting that to you Bert :)
Bertram Jacobus: ty eliza ! :-) - np ... at all , for sure not ... :-)
Eliza Madrigal: the reports sort of stand on their own, but I'll give you the link as soon as it opens :))
 

Eden

Eliza Madrigal: Eden, ntsy - how are you doing with the reading and such? I know you're busy....
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like she's busy :p
Eden Haiku: Yes, busy. But still reading and wrote something.
Eliza Madrigal: ah, wonderful
Eden Haiku: Venturing into TSK chapter 7 listening to Brian Eno (found out it helps!).
Agatha Macbeth: Wuhu
Eden Haiku: Low enough so I can still hear the early morning birds.
Eden Haiku: I'm distracted by a Periscope notification.
Eden Haiku: And end up following some YingYing as she's walking down the Peak Hong Kong in a massive fog.
Eden Haiku: I come back refreshed to the diagrams of arrows branching off.
Eden Haiku: I copy: "Any point can be reached and interacted with" .
Eden Haiku: Then I start my day, ending up walking 12,448 footsteps across Montreal on a gorgeous day. 
Agatha Macbeth: 0.0
Eden Haiku: I'm working on exercise 18 part B and having fun.
Eden Haiku: Meeting all sort of adventures in and out and about time.
Eden Haiku: At one point, encountering a tiny 2 year old who actually tells me something.
Eden Haiku: I get carried away writing down a report as I sit on a bench, basking in the sun.
Eden Haiku: Report which is way too long to share.
Eden Haiku: -Will keep working on it, editing it.
Eden Haiku: And share it next week.
Eden Haiku: It's a cliffhanger :)
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Eliza Madrigal: aw, yay
Eden Haiku: Done
Agatha Macbeth: clap
Agatha Macbeth: ***** APPPPPPPLLLLAAAUUUSSSSeeee***********
Eliza Madrigal: lovely... feel surge of excitement
Mickorod Renard: fantastic,,can't wait
Eliza Madrigal: Tura, how was your week?
 

Tura

Tura Brezoianu: Not much to report
Tura Brezoianu: I intermittently tried to be mindful of hte present extending into the future and the past
Tura Brezoianu: (exercise 19)
Eliza Madrigal: interested in how that feels
Tura Brezoianu: I can see spending the next few weeks playing with exercises 18 to 21
Tura Brezoianu: It's like practicing mindfulness, but with a more specific focus
Eliza Madrigal: nice - seems you take to exercises like a fish to water
Tura Brezoianu: a focus on the experience of time
Eden Haiku: Great Tura:)
Eliza Madrigal: thank you :)

Eliza Madrigal: I am not there yet with the exercises, so it is fun to glance ahead
Mickorod Renard: I like that thought of mindfulness
Agatha Macbeth: Mind the fulness
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eden Haiku: :)
 

Agatha

Eliza Madrigal: Agatha? thoughts today?
Agatha Macbeth: Um
Agatha Macbeth: Well
Agatha Macbeth: To be honest no :p
Mickorod Renard: listens
Eliza Madrigal: :)) of course be honest
Eden Haiku: None?
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Agatha Macbeth: Nothing to listen to Mick
Eliza Madrigal: that's fine :)
Agatha Macbeth: Nope, totally blank
Eden Haiku: Mindfulness of blankness :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Agatha Macbeth: Looks that way
Eliza Madrigal: Bleu?
Agatha Macbeth pokes Bleuji

--BELL--

Eliza Madrigal: I know you all are just being brief so we can get to the exciting slides.... hahah

Bleu

Bleu Oleander: thanks, have a couple of thoughts from this week
Eliza Madrigal: great :)))
Agatha Macbeth: Yay
Bleu Oleander: thinking about time
Bleu Oleander: from two different sources
Bleu Oleander: reading TSK reminds me of the Bhagavad Gita, when Arjuna asks Krishna if he can see the universe for himself and Krishna give him a “cosmic eye.” Arjuna then sees gods and suns and infinite space. this gives him joy.
Agatha Macbeth: Amazing
Bleu Oleander: I contrasted this with this: https://www.edge.org/conversation/fr...er-over-nature
Bleu Oleander: a scientist's thoughts
Bleu Oleander: "It turns out that property where the fundamental laws look the same, to great accuracy, forwards and backwards in time, is an accidental consequence of deeper principles. The principles of relativity, quantum mechanics, and gate symmetry, which is necessary to make those work together properly, together greatly constrain the possible physical laws for the fundamental interactions. When you take all those constraints into account, you find that the only things that are allowed look almost the same forwards and backwards in time, and, in fact, there are subtle microphysical phenomena that people got Nobel Prizes for observing—obscure particle decays that don’t look the same forwards and backwards in time, but for the most part, the fundamental laws do look the same. It was a great triumph to understand that puzzle. The so-called time reversal symmetry of physical laws is a consequence of other deep principles."
Bleu Oleander: when watching the video I saw the "joy" he has with his "cosmic eyes"
Bleu Oleander: the joy of discovery of worlds unseen
Bleu Oleander: imaginary or real of something in between
Bleu Oleander: s'it for now :)
Mickorod Renard: facinating ty
Agatha Macbeth: Wonderful
Bleu Oleander: if you have the time, the video is fascinating

Eliza Madrigal: very nice... trying to translate for myself... so, he is taking another kind of view and from that view can see objects looking back to and forward from... and if not, underlying pattern in such a way?
Mickorod Renard: reminds me of a dream I had ..with the stones music like a rainbow..but cant find it
Bleu Oleander: there is no arrow of time in physics
Bleu Oleander: no distinction in the laws

Eliza Madrigal: do you think there is a parallel to draw, roughly to deeper into this chapter when there are no objects
Bleu Oleander: objects are things we have defined as such
Bleu Oleander: the parallel was "cosmic eyes" and the joy of discovery
Eliza Madrigal: ok ty
Eliza Madrigal: thought Wol was signing on, but for now will give my report :) on the fly
Eden Haiku: :)
 

Eliza

Eliza Madrigal: I was so relieved by this chapter....
Eliza Madrigal: last reading had brought me into a little confusion, because of words like 'control'
Agatha Macbeth: A dreaded word
Eliza Madrigal: but in this turn, I felt that we'd been led to this constricted place only to be given relief....
Eliza Madrigal: in a sense that feeling the constriction, or seeing it, lets one kind of, go along to find more
Bertram Jacobus: [ yess aggers (!) ;-) ]
Eliza Madrigal: then we get to this structure - linear, then linear with openings, then openings to openings...
Eliza Madrigal: then no openings because nothing to open
Eliza Madrigal: and this is more what I think many of us would resonate with as the flowy juicy magic of life

"When fully appreciated, Great Time is seen to be a kind of
perfectly liquid, lubricious dimension--it is quintessentially 'slippery'"
 

Eliza Madrigal: so, needless to say I felt delighted and in love with the book again.... the intimacy of the exploration coming back
Mickorod Renard: I am glad we have got to this point
Eliza Madrigal: and the reminder of this fundamental intimacy or goodness or love as our very 'being' and aliveness...dynamically playing out
Eliza Madrigal: done

Eliza Madrigal: yes me too Mick :)
Mickorod Renard: lovely Eliza..and in my kind of language too..ty#
Eden Haiku: loves "quintessentially 'slippery' - Great job Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh.... also.... for me it lined up perfectly with exploring b part of the exercise....
Agatha Macbeth: Like a fish
Bleu Oleander: its amazing how different people can react to same text :)
Eliza Madrigal: because it was another direction to take our show on the road, and made me more attentive with those I encountered
Wol Euler: evening all
Agatha Macbeth: Wollie ♥
Wol Euler: sorry I
Bertram Jacobus: hi wol :-)
Wol Euler: I'm late
Bleu Oleander: hi Wol :)
Eden Haiku: hello Wol :)
Mickorod Renard: evnin Wollie
Eliza Madrigal: as I looked into their eyes and was aware of 'being with them'
Agatha Macbeth: For a very important date?
Eliza Madrigal: done for real, lol
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol!! :)
Eliza Madrigal: the thing I was so confused about with 'control' is that nothing I've ever heard from Steven made sense that he would be seeking that contrivance

Mickorod Renard: if i could ramble,,,this point felt like how it is when you let go of your control ..say during a retreat
Eliza Madrigal: but we go through our days and have to get things 'done' too :)
Eliza Madrigal: say more Mick?
Mickorod Renard: ony that really,,made me think of that release of emotion that one may feel
Mickorod Renard: done
Eliza Madrigal: like a shift from making thigns happen to appreciating what is happening and being part of that
Agatha Macbeth: You let go of control during retreats?
Agatha Macbeth: Sorry I missed em now
Mickorod Renard: yes, that sort of thing..and letting go of a need to stay attached

Eden Haiku: reminded me of a quote from the book saying this book is about finding happiness or something like it... Underlined it but than so many underlinings :) Looking it up...
Bertram Jacobus: sry dears - beg your pardon but have to leave suddenly - ty, that i was alowed to be here and c u again hopefully - continue enjoying pls ! *wave* ...
Agatha Macbeth: Behave yourself Bert
Mickorod Renard: nice to see ya bertie
Eden Haiku: Bye Bertram!
Eliza Madrigal smiles at Bert... always so lively and sweet
Eliza Madrigal: Eden, share any time you find it :)
Mickorod Renard: I dont know what i have learn't tho
Agatha Macbeth: You murky old thing Mick
Mickorod Renard: :)
Bleu Oleander: lol
Eden Haiku: Still looking :) I may have made a note of it...

Eliza Madrigal: if you need something to feel you've learned, how about the outline of these ways of time, depending on view?
Eliza Madrigal: so this first little chart.... ordinary time.... one step to the next to the next....
Mickorod Renard: I am sure it will present itself in some sort of eurika moment one day


Agatha Macbeth: Line-ar
Mickorod Renard: oops
Eliza Madrigal: there is something comforting about it, as though we could hypothetically plan with it in mind and be sure of results
Bleu Oleander: is it necessary to see ordinary time this way?
Eliza Madrigal: only this book's scheme Bleu....
Eliza Madrigal: hard to cover all the different ones :)
Bleu Oleander: I meant see it first like this, so can appreciate the next characterizations of time in the book?
Eliza Madrigal: I'm not sure... when I see this, I don't think this is how I think....
Eliza Madrigal: but I can see that there is this thinking, or a kind of expectation of this thinking
Eliza Madrigal: people more often impose upon others, as though if someone were more 'this or that' they could plan better and do better, etc
Bleu Oleander: hmmm, I just don't relate to this thinking as such
Eliza Madrigal: oddly, I hear it a lot in political arguments lately
Mickorod Renard: yes?
Eliza Madrigal: like, "well my parents made themselves successful, so anyone can..."
Bleu Oleander tries not to listen to that stuff so much lol
Eliza Madrigal: there is a kind of fundamental argument some make that is like a zero sum
Mickorod Renard: ah I see
Bleu Oleander: how do you relate that to time?
Agatha Macbeth: Fundamentalists eh
Eliza Madrigal: in being a fixed system
Eliza Madrigal: just a comparison
Agatha Macbeth: Ooh

Eliza Madrigal: then we're into the book's particular language maybe? *timing* ?


Eliza Madrigal: thoughts?
Mickorod Renard: here we have gaps?
Eliza Madrigal: nods, or interruptions? openings?
Agatha Macbeth: What's in between the timings then?
Bleu Oleander: conformity to what?
Mickorod Renard: could this be seen as gates? bleu
Bleu Oleander: not sure what you mean Mick
Eliza Madrigal: Bruce would like this section
Mickorod Renard: cognative gates in time
Agatha Macbeth: Hope he's OK
Bleu Oleander: like the breaks in consciousness?
Mickorod Renard: yes

"We can see 'timing' as expressing everything within the series, and as permitting
the conventionally accepted passage from one situation (point) to the next."

Eliza Madrigal: so we're still going from situation to situation
Eliza Madrigal: but it is a little more holistic ?
Eliza Madrigal: maybe some parallels to emergence
Mickorod Renard: is this as in presentation
Mickorod Renard: ?

Bleu Oleander: http://neurosciencenews.com/consciou...e-slices-4034/
Bleu Oleander: for later ... very interesting
Mickorod Renard: ty

Eliza Madrigal nods Mick "presentation of appearance" perhaps

Eden Haiku:

"We seek peace and harmony, but these require knowledge. And no one has ever
taught us the kind of knowledge that is needed to control our space and time"

TSK 1322/2777 Chapter 6
(maybe the quote I was looking for)

Eliza Madrigal: ahh, ty Eden
Eden Haiku: made me think of non-violent communication skills...
Eliza Madrigal: how so?
Bleu Oleander: is he saying control of space and time is necessary for peace and harmony?
Eden Haiku: We all seek peace and harmony :)
Bleu Oleander: yes of course
Agatha Macbeth: This makes me think of JW Dunne
Bleu Oleander: but need control of space and time before that?
Mickorod Renard: I struggled with this pic
Bleu Oleander: or can we let go of that control?
Eden Haiku: Marshall Rosenberg theory of non-violent communication is the "knowledge" we can learn maybe
Eliza Madrigal hears, what we are seeking is peace and harmony, and control can seem necessary to that end, (but it is really knowledge?)
Eliza Madrigal: like a hierarchy of skills
Mickorod Renard: awareness? choice?
Eliza Madrigal nods
Eden Haiku: I really don't know...
Eliza Madrigal: awareness of more 'space' perhaps, options and possibilities
Eliza Madrigal: that no point is inherently closed
Bleu Oleander: I think it is knowledge of ourselves and others and our awareness of where we are and respect for other's points of view
Eden Haiku: Yes Eliza, sounds like something like that, maybe...

Eliza Madrigal: Mick, this is where it IS a little odd
Eliza Madrigal: this chart... so probably where to stop for today and consider more and come back to....
Mickorod Renard: ok,good thinking
Eliza Madrigal: besides, Riddle likes charts and I don't want to leave him out, llllol
Mickorod Renard: he he
Bleu Oleander: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Agreed
Eliza Madrigal: and not Bruce if we can help it too, because there are a lot of the things he is drawn to in this chapter too...words like 'fields' and 'singularities'
Agatha Macbeth nods
Eliza Madrigal: seems a rich place to linger a little and try to articulate ourselves, if okay with everyone?
Wol Euler nods.
Eden Haiku: yep
Agatha Macbeth: Feel free
Bleu Oleander: sure
Eliza Madrigal would love to say she'll be concise but that is a possibility I haven't reached in my evolution yet
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Agatha Macbeth: You concise?
Mickorod Renard: yes, Bruce and Riddle have been very absorbed in the book.
Eden Haiku: We love you exactly as you are Eliza :)
Wol Euler smiles.
Mickorod Renard: he he
Bleu Oleander: :)
Eliza Madrigal: (((Eden))) love you too
Eliza Madrigal frustrates herself, grrr :)
Agatha Macbeth: .·:*¨¨*:·.♡♥♡.·:*¨¨*:·.❖❖.·:*¨¨*:·.GROUP HUG.·:*¨¨*:·.❖❖.·:*¨¨*:·.♡♥♡.·:*¨¨*:·.
Mickorod Renard: a great session Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: but amuses herself too :P
Mickorod Renard: thankyou
Wol Euler: good :)
Eliza Madrigal: oh, cute Aggers
Eden Haiku: puts a kiss on Eliza's cheek
Agatha Macbeth: I am aren't I?
Eliza Madrigal blushes

Wol Euler: before we go, I want to say that I will be away for the next few weeks, probably unable to attend again until the 12th of May.
Wol Euler: I'
Agatha Macbeth: Aww
Wol Euler: I'll be reading along, and keeping up via the wiki
Mickorod Renard: :(
Eliza Madrigal: ohhh off now?
Wol Euler: off on Monday morning
Eliza Madrigal: so glad, you've needed this time
Mickorod Renard: have a good time away Wol
Wol Euler: true :)
Eden Haiku: Oh Wol, traveling?
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Bleu Oleander: enjoy Wol
Eliza Madrigal: dream tour
Wol Euler: Toronto and Washington for two weeks and a bit
Eden Haiku: oh, have safe travels and a good time Wol :)
Wol Euler: <3
Wol Euler: thanks all
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eliza Madrigal: an opening in the too linear pattern of work lately?

Eden Haiku: meeting Obama?
Wol Euler: alas no
Agatha Macbeth: InToronto?
Wol Euler: and fortunately yes
Eden Haiku: alas...
Wol Euler: in the reverse order
Eliza Madrigal has the cutest photo of younger daughter after she shook hands with Obama.. bright red cheeks... so sweeeeet
Wol Euler: :)
Agatha Macbeth: Her or him?
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Eden Haiku: Lucky girl!
Bleu Oleander: :)
Mickorod Renard: Wow
Eliza Madrigal: she is holding her hand up like *wow*
Agatha Macbeth: Wow

Eden Haiku: Wondering what he will do after presidency, any idea anyone?
Eliza Madrigal: he will write wonderful books
Mickorod Renard: Golf I think
Wol Euler: first thing, have a long holiday
Eden Haiku: Yes, books for sure:) He's a great writer!
Eden Haiku: United Nations?
Mickorod Renard: I bet he plays golf first
Eliza Madrigal grins
Mickorod Renard: :)
Bleu Oleander: I think he will play an important role going forward ... probably be freer to accomplish more even
Eliza Madrigal: or goes surfing now that no one can criticize him for it
Eden Haiku: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I hope so Bleu

Wol Euler: remember how black his hair was at the inauguration in 2009?
Wol Euler: he's nearly white now
Eliza Madrigal: yes!
Eden Haiku: Yes...
Bleu Oleander: 8 years of high stress will do that :)
Wol Euler: don't tell me he hasn't been working hard
Eliza Madrigal: a role that ages big time
Mickorod Renard: he must have had the same stress as me
Eden Haiku: Tough job...
Eliza Madrigal: lol Mick
Mickorod Renard: he he ..my hair went same way
Eliza Madrigal giggles.... not sure what color mine is
Eden Haiku: :)
Agatha Macbeth: President Mick
Mickorod Renard: well, some folks handle it better
Mickorod Renard: :)
Eden Haiku: President of his grandchildren :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Wol Euler smiles.
Agatha Macbeth: Aye
Agatha Macbeth: And French women
Mickorod Renard: yeh, that was the stress I have to cope with..g kids
Eliza Madrigal: there was a great article in the Atlantic this month, for those interested in obama/foreign policy... was very well done - highly recommend: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ctrine/471525/
Eden Haiku: And French women:)
Mickorod Renard: de stress on french women
Mickorod Renard: pardon le pun
Agatha Macbeth: Sacré bleu
Mickorod Renard: he he
Eden Haiku: Oh thanks Eliza, read that, a great article!

Mickorod Renard: ok,,I am going..bye for now,,thanks everyone
Eliza Madrigal: wasn't it...
Eliza Madrigal: Okay Mick
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Micko
Eden Haiku: Bye President Mick :)
Eliza Madrigal: thanks everyone for being here and being so lovely
Eliza Madrigal: kiss the grandchildren from us
Mickorod Renard: bye,,goin to look at bleus link
Bleu Oleander: thank you!
Wol Euler: goodbye and thanks all
Eliza Madrigal: avatar kisses
Mickorod Renard: will do
Wol Euler: take care, stay healthy
Bleu Oleander: bye all
Mickorod Renard: and you Wol
Wol Euler: and be on time
Eliza Madrigal: bye Bleu, ty
Wol Euler grins.
Eliza Madrigal: safe travels Wol!!!!
Wol Euler: thankee
Wol Euler: <3

Agatha Macbeth: Afore ye go Liz...
Bleu Oleander: take care and have a great time Wol
Eliza Madrigal: oh?
Wol Euler: ty
Agatha Macbeth: Any meetings this weekend?
Eden Haiku: Thank you sweet hostess Eliza.
Eliza Madrigal: nope!
Agatha Macbeth: OK ta
Eliza Madrigal: ty Eden :)
Eliza Madrigal: that I know of, Agatha....
Agatha Macbeth: That'll do for me
Wol Euler waves and poofs away
Eliza Madrigal: but we need to figure out what is going on with you and wg emails
Tura Brezoianu: thanks all, goodnight
Agatha Macbeth: And the calendar :p
Eliza Madrigal: thanks Tura
Eliza Madrigal: <3

Eden Haiku: Oh yes, we have to hear from the WG about that...
Eliza Madrigal: the calendar is fine, but wg things are not sorted like that....
Eliza Madrigal: since it takes a long time to coordinate everyone to meet
Agatha Macbeth: I'm sure it says there's AM on Saturday on there
Eden Haiku: About payments and such...
Eliza Madrigal: yes...
Agatha Macbeth: GM
Eliza Madrigal: I think that's almost sorted...
Eliza Madrigal: so Stevie will be sending an email any day

Eden Haiku: Good. I would love to settle this before I leave for France
Agatha Macbeth: Riiight
Eliza Madrigal: when is that Eden?
Eliza Madrigal: must be beautiful now
Eden Haiku: May 9th, very soon now...
Eliza Madrigal: oooh, very!
Eliza Madrigal: I do think Stevie was just following up on one thing before sending an email

Eden Haiku: Lots of preparations and a shooting for my ne book at the publisher...
Eliza Madrigal: fun!!
Agatha Macbeth: Who did you shoot?
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Eliza Madrigal: what a dream.... a book photo shoot
Eden Haiku: Exciting yes. Pinching Agatha :)
Agatha Macbeth: Nya
Eliza Madrigal: one day i will interview you about what you imagined yourself doing when a young child Eden
Eden Haiku: hairstylist and make up and nervousness
Eliza Madrigal: >squeal< seems so fun
Agatha Macbeth: Ooer
Eden Haiku: I decided to become a writer when I was 9 ;)
Eliza Madrigal: that's so early!
Agatha Macbeth: Calm down Liz
Eliza Madrigal: lol
Eliza Madrigal puppy ears flapping
Eliza Madrigal pants
Agatha Macbeth: Gently George
Eden Haiku: Have a nice view on your floppy ears from here :)
Eden Haiku: Give George a big kiss on his ears:)
Eliza Madrigal: ok :)
Eliza Madrigal: have a nice evening
Eden Haiku: And sorry for Prince passing away...
Agatha Macbeth: Already did ;-)
Eden Haiku: You too;)
Eliza Madrigal: much appreciation for your splendid company
Eliza Madrigal: yes me too... Wol hit rather hard...
Eden Haiku: Bye Agatha, sweet dreams:)
Agatha Macbeth: A bientot cherie
Eliza Madrigal: Nite <3
Agatha Macbeth: ♥
Eden Haiku: Au revoir lovelies:)
Eliza Madrigal: *poof*