2019.05.13 07:00 - Thank You For Playing

The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.

Riddle and Eden

 

Riddle Sideways: Hey Eden, you are early

Eden Haiku: Hello ghost of Riddle :)

Eden Haiku: (he vanished into thin air )

Riddle Sideways: ?

Eden Haiku: Oh! I saw only half of you and now you are invisible...

Eden Haiku: Ah! I see you now! Good morning!

Riddle Sideways: Still see-able?

Eden Haiku: Open shirt :)

Eden Haiku: Is it very hot in California?

 

—BELL--

 

Riddle Sideways: wha is going on. wardrobe failures

Eden Haiku: Happens :)

Eden Haiku: Ah! new t-shirt, the other one :))

Riddle Sideways: hmmm, replace entire outfit is problematic, have to put piece by piece on

Eden Haiku: You look fine Riddle, don't worry :))

Riddle Sideways: ok, start day!

Riddle Sideways: woke up early today, lay there wondering how wrong it would be to start early

Eden Haiku: Took a picture. Forgot last week. So complicated with this SLK [meant SL] Viewer. Never sure if I will be able to post it in the log. Too large, too small?

Riddle Sideways: so tried it

Eden Haiku: Did you had great insights in pre-dawn ?

Riddle Sideways: and things been not going smooth

Riddle Sideways: SLK viewer?

Eden Haiku: Typo:SL viewer.

Riddle Sideways: ok

Eden Haiku: Sorry for not smooth early start ;(

Riddle Sideways: ha

Riddle Sideways: and yes, also forget when posting a photo which size setting works

Eden Haiku: Never had problem with Firestorm but Firestorm doesn't work on laptop anymore:(

Riddle Sideways: :(

Riddle Sideways: opposite here, SL viewer no longer works

 

Mothers Day in the Bay Area

 

Eden Haiku: Did you have a nice Mothers Day celebration with your family yesterday?

Riddle Sideways: oh Yes!

Eden Haiku: Nice:)

Riddle Sideways: went up to Bay area Saturday, spent night

Riddle Sideways: big brunch on Sunday

Riddle Sideways: Art museums, an art event

Riddle Sideways: lay around watch a movie

Riddle Sideways: etc

Eden Haiku: Wonderful!

Riddle Sideways: mini-vacation

Eden Haiku: Sounds like it!

Riddle Sideways: thought that the art gallery was going to be like an Art Gallery show

Riddle Sideways: turned into a Happening

Riddle Sideways: some readings, poetry, dance, thoughts,

Eden Haiku: Wow!

Eden Haiku: Was asked recently, along with other

Eden Haiku: oops!

Riddle Sideways: most of the (exhibitors?)participants had been there all week and were in the mood, groove, mindset

Riddle Sideways: so walked into a ... well sorta weird

 

—BELL--

 

Riddle Sideways: was ok,

Riddle Sideways: you were asked?

Eden Haiku: Along with other writers, to write a piece about one of the art collection piece of the Montreal Museum of Fine Arts. I chose an ice canoe painted by Riopelle.

Riddle Sideways: same or different one from the one you mentioned some time ago?

Eden Haiku: Had fun writing the piece, but will have to miss the "event" (where we read our piece next to the art). Already agreed to attend my grand-niece ballet and hip-hop show ...But I feel uncomfortable about having to miss the art event , didn’t say so yet...Yes, I remember now, telling you about it earlier...

Eden Haiku: The event at the museum is on May 25th at 2h30 pm. Exact same time....

Riddle Sideways: hmmm, ballet and hip-hop show ... remembering when those 2 words would not be in the same sentence

Eden Haiku: Yes, I'm curious to see that :) I guess they are consecutive pieces :)

Eden Haiku: How weird was it, walking into the gallery with all the artists in the mood of creation?

Riddle Sideways: well 'gallery' is being polite. kind of a warehouse

Eden Haiku: I see!

Riddle Sideways: they werevery welcoming

Eden Haiku: Nice :)

Riddle Sideways: come in, take shoes off, sit on floor.

Riddle Sideways: or here is a pillow if you are too old

Eden Haiku: smiles

Riddle Sideways: "and what do you think of the piece behind you, that you've not looked at yet?"

Eden Haiku: laughs

Riddle Sideways: this is the artist, she will explain it to you

Eden Haiku: :)

Riddle Sideways: but will use words in a different language

Eden Haiku: Oh!

 

Women Drawn in Yarn

 

Eden Haiku: Was your daughter one of the artists?

Riddle Sideways: yes, ha

Riddle Sideways:her piece was a portrait of a women drawn in yarn

Eden Haiku: Try to describe what was her art piece? Or whatever they call it now , installation maybe?

Riddle Sideways:just the top of her on paper. on a wall

Eden Haiku: In yarn?

Riddle Sideways: yarn glued to paper

Riddle Sideways: then the weave, the woven yarn left the paper

Riddle Sideways: and moved out into the room to thumbtacks to the floor

Eden Haiku: can almost see it...

Riddle Sideways: just the (waff, worf, w???) part of a weave

Riddle Sideways:the long threads

Riddle Sideways: and a box of yarn was next to the piece

Riddle Sideways: each observer was to weave a small yarn across the piece

Riddle Sideways: to add to it

Eden Haiku: Oh! Nice!

Eden Haiku: Did you add some yarn?

Riddle Sideways: yes.

Riddle Sideways: not very goodly

 

--BELL--

 

Eden Haiku: Different colors or the same?

Riddle Sideways: picked a variegated yarn piece

Riddle Sideways: so yes and no

Eden Haiku: A kind of metaphor of how the woman (a figure of her?) is changed by interactions with others?

Eden Haiku: How we all are :)

Riddle Sideways: am staring at phone, knowing there is a photo there and can't get it to Eden

Eden Haiku: have an idea :)

Zen Arado: 's current display-name is « Zen ».

 

Not Quite a Poem, Not Quite Prose

 

Riddle, Eden, Zen rezzing slowly and Adams

 

Riddle Sideways: there is also a photo of the words, (not quite a poem, but not quite prose) that was hung next to the piece

Riddle Sideways: sorry bell, hi Zen

Zen Arado: Hi Eden, Riddle

Riddle Sideways: just to finish that... it had to do with weaving/unweaving woven lives/existence, the future weavings etc

Riddle Sideways: is that a broken leg boot on you Zen?

Riddle Sideways: Hey, Adams

Zen Arado: Hi Adams

Zen Arado: pants have gone funny

Zen Arado: gone

Riddle Sideways: is happening today

Adams Rubble: Good morning everyone :)

Eden Haiku: Welcome Zen and Adams :)

Riddle Sideways: took a minute for this av to settle down today also

Adams Rubble: lag this morning

Eden Haiku: I see a floating Zen in white long underpants, a piece of black jeans on a shin and black sneakers with white lace :)

Riddle Sideways:like the world was not quite ready for us this morning

Eden Haiku: Maybe :)

Eden Haiku: How are you Adams?

Adams Rubble feels good to get her pixels out of the hard drive and into the RAM this morning

Eden Haiku: Ah Zen! Nice pants!

Zen Arado: ha ha

Eden Haiku: Very elegant!

 

Moving Up the Line

 

Zen Arado: Doris Day died

Zen Arado: you hear?

Adams Rubble: it has been rainy and gloomy here in RL for two straight days

Riddle Sideways: what? did not hear

Zen Arado: she was 97

Riddle Sideways: she lived just down the road here

Eden Haiku: Doris Day....

Zen Arado: oh?

Eden Haiku: Did she? Was she Irish, no?

Zen Arado: did good work for animals

Riddle Sideways: no Californian

Eden Haiku: Oh no, in US, sorry mixed lines :)

Eden Haiku: 97, what a long life!

Zen Arado: she played strong feminine leads

Riddle Sideways: yes

Eden Haiku: Yes, I kind of know her as an actor

Zen Arado: but turned dow Mrs Robinson role cos she thought her too vulgar

Zen Arado: the character

Riddle Sideways: right, she did much for animal rights and shelters adoptions for dogs

Zen Arado: in the Graduate

Riddle Sideways: would have never taken a vulgar part

Riddle Sideways: wonder if the local paper will even print anything today

Riddle Sideways: they now have like no staff on weekends

 

—BELL--

 

Zen Arado: was such a funny film

Eden Haiku: Hope so Riddle, in her own neighborhood ...

Riddle Sideways: There is a grand old hotel in downtown Carmel that she made one of the first dog-friendly hotels ever

Zen Arado: 'You cain't get a man with a gun' - reminisces

Zen Arado: really?

Zen Arado: I mean 'really' about dog hotels

Adams Rubble: unless it is a shotgun

Riddle Sideways: she did so many things around here

Riddle Sideways: notable quotes too

Eden Haiku: smiles

Riddle Sideways: there are a great number of celebs that live around here. mostly quietly

Riddle Sideways: every once in a while

Riddle Sideways: they come out for some special words to

Riddle Sideways: a town hall meetings

Riddle Sideways: or benefit

Riddle Sideways: funny, how everybody shuts up and listens

Riddle Sideways: they get away with slapped sense into a crowd

Eden Haiku: We will die one after the other, every once in a while...

Riddle Sideways: so true Eden

Adams Rubble: if we all live until 97 there will be lots for PaB sessions

Riddle Sideways: ㋡

Eden Haiku: Every person going to the other side reminds us of our own mortality...

Eden Haiku: Let's play we are all 97 now, not quite dead, still doing PaB sessions :)

Eden Haiku: What would we be complaining about?

Adams Rubble: as the Clancy Brothers sang, we are moving up the line

Eden Haiku: Moving up the line yep!

Eden Haiku: Maybe trying to escape the police running after 100 years old to exterminate them?

Adams Rubble: :)

Zen Arado: I met a guy used to be my boss on Saturday

Riddle Sideways: darn ol artheerightous gotz it down to typo-ing only one lettttterz pppppppppppppppppppppp

Zen Arado: he is 95

Eden Haiku: listening

Zen Arado: doing his shopping and still driving

Eden Haiku: laughs at Riddle typing at 97 yo!

Eden Haiku: wow!

Eden Haiku: Lucky man isn't he Zen?

Eden Haiku: Was he a good boss?

Riddle Sideways: as bosses go

Eden Haiku: :)

 

Artificial Intelligence in Healthcare

Conversation at the fountain: Riddle, Eden, Zen fully rezzed and Adams

 

Zen Arado: I started a new MOOC this morning

Zen Arado: he wasn't very well organized no and they got rid of him

Zen Arado: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/...and-challenges

Zen Arado: about how AI can help with healthcare

Eden Haiku: Seems interesting Zen.

Riddle Sideways: yes, have read lots of articles

Zen Arado: well I am interested in AI and healthcare so…

 

--BELL--

 

Riddle Sideways: catching things humans miss. And allowing humans to spend more time with patients

Zen Arado: In Taiwan you can access your own medical records and they have all sorts of statistics on you that you can check and add to yourself

Zen Arado: this course is run by the medical University of Taipei

Adams Rubble: :)

Zen Arado: they are really into preventative rather than curative medicine

Eden Haiku: smiles

Adams Rubble: we are in good times in the availability of so many online courses

Zen Arado: which seems sensible

Adams Rubble: yes

Riddle Sideways: many countries have good healthcare

Riddle Sideways: wish the US did

Zen Arado: yes I just looked for something interesting this morning and found that

Zen Arado: I found that there is a system like that in the UK but I had never heard of it

Eden Haiku: yes, it is so sad you don't have a good system...in the US. One of the richest countries...

Zen Arado: it isn't as comprehensive though

Adams Rubble: brb

Riddle Sideways: there are many countries you carry your own records around with you

Zen Arado: I must register with my GP with some ID

Zen Arado: then I can order my prescriptions and appointments and things online

Riddle Sideways: half of it might not be AI, as much as good record keeping and checking

Riddle Sideways: the AI part might be the machine learning over millions of simular cases

Zen Arado: AI can do a lot with information gathered on patient's though

Eden Haiku: Medical records online is still not completely done here...

Zen Arado: yes exactly

Zen Arado: they are talking about predicting cancer to our three years before you get it

Zen Arado: two or

Eden Haiku: That sounds horrible Zen...

Riddle Sideways: recent cases of a machine recognizing a spot on an X-ray on a hand when doctor is looking at chest

Zen Arado: yes it could have downsides as well :-)

Zen Arado: ignorance is bliss sometimes

Zen Arado: yes I would like to visit my GP and have lots of things sorted out rather than having to concentrate on one thing

Eden Haiku: Unless it pushes you to change your lifestyle to healthier ways :)

Zen Arado: because they only give you 10 minutes

Riddle Sideways: not telling the doctor (or forgetting to tell) about some case history

Zen Arado: yes our behavior is the only thing we can change

Eden Haiku: indeed

Riddle Sideways: of course there still is the interface between doctor and machine. how fast, easy, automatic will your GP interact

Riddle Sideways: with a new interface

Zen Arado: this little video explains it: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/...OvYBtm8dk0tQb0

Eden Haiku: Hopefully doctors will update when they are prompted to...

Riddle Sideways: will the doctor be distracted by the smartphone

Eden Haiku: Play games instead of looking at medical records?

 

Speed Trip Ahead

 

Zen Arado: Yuval Harari thinks we won't need GPs in the future

Eden Haiku: Why?

Riddle Sideways: oh, Eden, like the 737-500 supermax upgrades

Zen Arado: because AI can do it better eventually

Eden Haiku: Ah!

Zen Arado: AI has access to all the latest data on diseases everywhere

Eden Haiku: Isn't GPS a kind of AI?

Zen Arado: and all the latest treatments which no doctor could possibly remember

Zen Arado: GPS just works out where you are by triangulation from satellites or something

Riddle Sideways: no GPS ins't but what is done with your location data could be

Riddle Sideways: like yesterday

Eden Haiku: Ah! But isn’it in AI?

Riddle Sideways: Google Maps did a new thing

Zen Arado: I suppose there is some AI as well to process the data

Riddle Sideways:it announces "Speed Trip ahead"

Eden Haiku: ?

Riddle Sideways: had never done that before

Riddle Sideways: that is not AI, but it was pretty smart

Zen Arado: ? is a speed trip like what we call a speed bump

Eden Haiku: Means you can go fast at a certain milestone?

Riddle Sideways: ha

Zen Arado: A bump in the road to slow you down?

Riddle Sideways: means there is a cop up the road with a radar gun checking for speeders

Eden Haiku: ahah!!!

Zen Arado: ok

Eden Haiku: Tks

Eden Haiku: Is that legal?

Riddle Sideways: hmmm, questionable

Riddle Sideways: which part?

 

—BELL--

 

Zen Arado: wouldn't be much point in having radar detection everyone knew where the cops were

Zen Arado: self drive cars won't be speeding much I think

Riddle Sideways: yes

Eden Haiku: The fact of telling there will be cops in two miles or so, so it means you can speed up until then, slow down for them and speed up until the next announcement?

Riddle Sideways: yep

Zen Arado: I have to go

Adams Rubble: everybody is speeding on the highways anyway

Adams Rubble: bye Zen :)

Zen Arado: getting near dinnertime

Zen Arado: bye

Eden Haiku: Bye Zen, have a great day!

Adams Rubble is eating lunch

Zen Arado: you too :-)

Riddle Sideways: bye zen

Riddle Sideways: there is much talk of self-driving cars/trucks joining together in trains of close linked going fast

Riddle Sideways: but back to doctors. if we were wearing smart medical instruments on say our wrists (oh like this FitBit)

Eden Haiku: Really Riddle? Seems quite scary...these fast trains of speeding cars and trucks

Eden Haiku: Yes?

Riddle Sideways: well the vehicles would know of road conditions and each others braking

Riddle Sideways: anyway, the watch could tell of hear irregularities

 

Wawa Canada Geese and Robins

 

Eden Haiku: Ah, yes, butno hitch hiking on these roads I guess :)

Riddle Sideways: exactly when the first happen

Eden Haiku: remembers she hitchhiked in California in the seventies...

Adams Rubble: !!!

Riddle Sideways: the data could be compared to several million other fast paced heartbeat reports

Eden Haiku: I was young Adams

Eden Haiku: then.:)

Adams Rubble: :)

Riddle Sideways: (oh dear, the death of hitchhiking)

Riddle Sideways: hitch hiked all the way across Canada

Eden Haiku: We were both very cautious though, my boyfriend and I.

Riddle Sideways: it was a safer time

Eden Haiku: If the car drivers looked TOO high, we declined the lift :)

Eden Haiku: They were all high somehow...

Riddle Sideways: ha ㋡

Eden Haiku: But we were not :)

Eden Haiku: It was a much safer time...

Adams Rubble: more people were following in the footsteps of Jack Kerouac in those days

Eden Haiku: Yes:)

Riddle Sideways: very scary who they are following in the footsteps of now

Eden Haiku: Read "On the Road' in French when I was about 15 :)

Adams Rubble: I did not read it until about 4 years ago in my poetry course which is why I did not hitch hike I guess

Adams Rubble: :)

Eden Haiku: Or maybe 20, can't remember. But hitchhiked in California a few years after :)

Eden Haiku: Who do you think they  follow now Riddle, the young people?

Riddle Sideways: picked up many hitchhikers and built up good karma for when did go out on the road

Eden Haiku: smiles at Adams

Eden Haiku: Maybe we took a ride with you Riddle? Remember a young guy with loooong blonde hair and his girlfriend in a long flowery skirt?

Riddle Sideways: Actually Yes, Eden. So many good young examples to follow now

Adams Rubble: Thank you for the conversation this morning :)

Riddle Sideways: thank you, Adams

Eden Haiku: Thank you Adams :) Have a great fruitful day!

Adams Rubble: good to get out and see you people :)

Riddle Sideways: good to be seen

Adams Rubble: back to the hard drive for me

Riddle Sideways: aw

Adams Rubble: bye :)

Eden Haiku: Enjoy!

 

—BELL--

 

Eden Haiku: Time to go for us too in

Eden Haiku: isn't it?

Riddle Sideways: probably

Riddle Sideways: continue hitch hiking stories next time

Eden Haiku: We had good weather and I'm late in everything. So glad you had a great week end in the B ay Area!

Riddle Sideways: the WaWa Goose

Riddle Sideways: in Wawa Canada

Eden Haiku: The Wa Wa Goose?

Riddle Sideways: remember it well

Eden Haiku: Ah yes, one of your memories as a hitchhiker!

Eden Haiku: I remember now :)

Riddle Sideways: the crossroads of hitch hiking Canada

Riddle Sideways: major roads went North or E-W

Eden Haiku: Saw writer Anais Nin in Santa Barbara :) On the pier, in a restaurant…She was my WaWa Goose :)

Riddle Sideways: the ride was turning and ya got out

Riddle Sideways: and picked up the other way

Eden Haiku: a turning point!

Riddle Sideways: an actual place

Riddle Sideways: pulling old postcard off the shelf

Eden Haiku: Still have it? wow!

Eden Haiku: Show me! we will have to Skype our sessions one of these days!

Riddle Sideways: got the postcard years later, driving the cross-Canada highway

Eden Haiku: smiles

Riddle Sideways: for now, google Wawa Goose

Riddle Sideways: a big 30 foot goose

Riddle Sideways: over looking the highway

Riddle Sideways: a mile or so from where all hitchhikers seem to switch rides

Eden Haiku: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/wawa-goose

Eden Haiku: It's beautiful!

Eden Haiku: I see real Canada geese everyday at the pond nearby where I walk :)

Riddle Sideways: ha, yes it is and

Riddle Sideways: as opposed to that place in New Mexico, where if you are let out. might as well set up house and live there cause yer not ever getting a ride out

Eden Haiku:Ah, the hell of the hitch hiker!

Riddle Sideways: YES

Riddle Sideways: so many stories

Riddle Sideways: from then

Riddle Sideways: everyday was another full novel

Eden Haiku: In reality, Canada geese are dark brown and with some black. Not all black and white but it's a very stylish thing there in WaWa !

Riddle Sideways: and remembering it a bit faded and in need of new paint

Eden Haiku: https://int.search.myway.com/search/...pr=sbt&trs=wtt

Eden Haiku: Looong link...

Eden Haiku: Long necks are black :)

Riddle Sideways: looking

Eden Haiku: Their goslings are all fluffy

Eden Haiku: They don't have them yet though

 

—BELL—

 

 

Riddle Sideways: aw

Riddle Sideways: fluff balls

Riddle Sideways: rain here, grew the grass very tall, not seeing the turkeys so much now

Eden Haiku: Our neighbor next door showed us a bird nest on his big spruce tree the other day, with the bird covering the eggs. And yesterday he showed us the video of two little hungry birdies beaks opening and still one tortoise egg to crack up. So beautiful!

Riddle Sideways: aw

Eden Haiku: Merle d'Amerique they are called. Google translating it...

Eden Haiku: American blackbird it seems...

Riddle Sideways: Robins

Eden Haiku: Strange as they aren't black but brown with a male with an orange belly.

Riddle Sideways: look like Robins

Riddle Sideways: the Robin was usually the first bird of spring

Riddle Sideways: to announce spring was here

Eden Haiku: Yes robins, that's it!

Eden Haiku: Looking at Google images. Our life is so full of Google…

Riddle Sideways: ok, RL is yelling for attention

Riddle Sideways: more stories next week

Riddle Sideways: until we are 97+

Eden Haiku: Thank you for being Riddle! [I meant  to say thanks for  being here] Have a gorgeous day!

Eden Haiku: Yep, until we are 97! That’s a plan!

Riddle Sideways: thank you for Playing

Eden Haiku: Thank you for Being :)