The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth. I arrived ten minutes late to find Bruce and Zon already in attendance.
Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
Zon Kwan: hi bruce
Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Zon.
Zon Kwan: how are you, and how is fish
Bruce Mowbray: Fish is good. I'm confused as ever.
Zon Kwan: lol
Zon Kwan: its good to be always wondering
Bruce Mowbray: I'm spent a lot of this day wondering why a close friend would lie to the Warren Commission.
Bruce Mowbray: I've*
Zon Kwan: who ?
Bruce Mowbray: Just sent off a LONG email to Mickorod -- because he was wondering the same thing.
Bruce Mowbray: My friend (who died in 2000) was the minister of the Unitarian Church in Dallas,
Zon Kwan: what did he lie ?
Bruce Mowbray: and apparently had spoken with Lee Harvey Oswald at length and privately. ..
Bruce Mowbray: but that's not what he told the Warren Commission.
Bruce Mowbray: He said he'd never talked to "Lee."
Agatha Macbeth: Hello, made it after all...
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, aggers!
Zon Kwan: what did he know ? what did he tell ?
Zon Kwan: hi Agatha
Bruce Mowbray: Ohhhh. It is SUCH a long story.
Zon Kwan is all ears
Bruce Mowbray: I maybe make a notecard of my letter to Mick and give that to you, though.
Bruce Mowbray: I mean, if you're actually interested in the details.
Zon Kwan: id be gald to hear it
Bruce Mowbray: kk, let me get that together for you.
Zon Kwan: yes please, send me if you can
Bruce Mowbray: Meanwhile, I have also put up a web page about it, ---
Bruce Mowbray: would it be all right to post the link for that here, aggers?
Agatha Macbeth: So that's actually you in the crowd Bruce?
Agatha Macbeth: Yeh sure
Bruce Mowbray: kk, just a sec, please.
Agatha Macbeth: No rush ;)
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, that was my typist, actually.
--BELL--1315
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.hermitdog.com/JFK/Connecting%20Dots.htm
Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera QT
Qt Core: Hi Agatha, Zon, Bruce
Agatha Macbeth: Brucie is just telling us about his JFK experiences...
Zon Kwan: hi qt
Zon Kwan: thanks bruce, ill read later
Zon Kwan: waves
Agatha Macbeth: Bye Zon
Qt Core: trying to imagine how it is there these day, here (talk) radios aren't speaking about anything else in last two days
Bruce Mowbray: Bye Zon, Hello Qt!
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, it seems to still be a big deal.
Agatha Macbeth: Did some people really hate Kennedy that much?
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, enough to murder him.
Bruce Mowbray: I knew such people personally.
Agatha Macbeth: Wow
Agatha Macbeth: They thought he was too soft on the communists?
Bruce Mowbray: There were a lot of press items about that hatred...
Bruce Mowbray: Oswald had an entirely different reason, though.
Qt Core: for what i heard today almost all the military establishment hated him (as he tried to put the army under the civilian control (especially the nuclear weapons))
Bruce Mowbray: Oswald was upset for how Kennedy was treating Cuba.
Bruce Mowbray: trying to have Castro killed, and his govt. overthrown, etc.
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, right
Bruce Mowbray: yes, there were a lot of opponents of the JFK administration.
Bruce Mowbray: I loved the guy, myself.
Agatha Macbeth: I only know what I have read about him
Qt Core: are some document about him and its death going to lose the top secret seal as 50 are gone ?
Bruce Mowbray: perhaps.
Bruce Mowbray: I doubt it, though.
Agatha Macbeth: You can bet any top secret stuff will stay secret tho
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1...mpaign=curated
Bruce Mowbray: afk for a sec.
Agatha Macbeth: A lot to take in all at one go
Bruce Mowbray: [back]
Bruce Mowbray: OH! There is an ENORMOUS amount of print - and video - aggers.
Bruce Mowbray: WAY too much even for the Warren Commission to handle, I think.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, indeed
Bruce Mowbray: DOZENS of books have been written about the assassination alone.
Agatha Macbeth: Right
Bruce Mowbray: and you have read a few of those, I think.
Agatha Macbeth: I read Mark Lane's yes
Agatha Macbeth: Rush to judgement
Bruce Mowbray: I'd like to say something about that book in a minute...
Agatha Macbeth: He certainly brings up some interesting points
Bruce Mowbray: but first, since I'm tossing out web pages,
Agatha Macbeth: OK
Bruce Mowbray: here's one I put up yesterday -- about defacing my diploma from SMU
Bruce Mowbray: (Southern Methodist University) - where the George W. Bush Presidential lkibrary is located:
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.hermitdog.com/JFK/Bush_library.htm
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.hermitdog.com/JFK/diploma_after.jpg
--BELL--1330
Agatha Macbeth: Does Bush have any special relationship with the place?
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, his wife Laura graduated from there.
Agatha Macbeth: Ah
Bruce Mowbray: She came to the university as a freshman the year after I graduated: 1965 (for her) 1964 (for me)
Bruce Mowbray: They have always kissed butt with the Bushes.
Qt Core: nice answer... and on a cynical point of view... the university still get a library he only name it, he don't choose the books (i hope) ;-)
Agatha Macbeth grins
Bruce Mowbray: I suspect it's the only library that he'll ever go into.
Agatha Macbeth: Would be interesting to see the titles of them if he did!
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.bushcenter.org/sites/defa...20%20FINAL.pdf
Agatha Macbeth: Someone has to run a country I suppose
Arisia Vita: 's current display-name is "Ari".
Bruce Mowbray: Heya, ari!
Arisia Vita: greetings my friends
Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ari dear
Qt Core: Hi Ari
Bruce Mowbray: as you can tell, I'm not a "W" admirer.
Agatha Macbeth: Glad to see you are still blue
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.bushcenter.org/
Arisia Vita: yes, but Delvian today :)
Arisia Vita: from Farscape
Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh!
Bruce Mowbray: No hair!
Arisia Vita: right
Agatha Macbeth: Oh I used to watch that
Arisia Vita: Delvians seek for enlightenment through helping others.
Agatha Macbeth: Is that the one with Claudia Black in it?
Agatha Macbeth: Yes I liked it a it a lot for a while
Arisia Vita: yes, but she was not Delvian as far as I know
Bruce Mowbray: tried to recall where he's heard of Claudia Black -- book on co-dependency?
Agatha Macbeth: No, Australian (but close)
Agatha Macbeth: Hm, she's an actress Brucie
Bruce Mowbray: oh. sry.
Agatha Macbeth: Dunno if she writes
Bruce Mowbray: different gal.
Agatha Macbeth: Mm probably
Arisia Vita: Zhaan was played by Virginia Hey
Agatha Macbeth: This one's an Aussie
Agatha Macbeth: She was in Pitch Dark with Vin Diesel
Agatha Macbeth: The first Riddick film
Bruce Mowbray: http://www.pivot.tv/shows/farscape/e...FclQOgodH3UA1g
Agatha Macbeth: Wow, that's been a while now, about 2000
Bruce Mowbray: I'd never heard of it before --- will look further itno it.
Bruce Mowbray: Don't get cable TV way out here, but might be able to download some episodes on the Web.
Agatha Macbeth: Diverted us away from Geoerge W at least!
Arisia Vita: :)
Agatha Macbeth: *George
Bruce Mowbray: yes!
Bruce Mowbray: mercifully.
Agatha Macbeth: (I must change this KB)
Bruce Mowbray: sticky KB, aggers?
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we should build a library here named after Pema ;)
Agatha Macbeth: Nah, just old I think
Agatha Macbeth: Letters have worn off
Bruce Mowbray: We could buld a library of Pema's books, videos, and on-line offerings!
Agatha Macbeth: Yep
Bruce Mowbray: Just GOOGLE Piet Hut and see what comes up!
Agatha Macbeth: Works for me
Agatha Macbeth: Trouble is too many prims probably
Bruce Mowbray: https://www.google.com/webhp?source=...t+Hut&safe=off
Agatha Macbeth: People will get lost with all these links heh
Agatha Macbeth: Certainly plenty of reading matter
Agatha Macbeth: WB Zon
--BELL--1345
Bruce Mowbray: wb, Zon!
Zon Kwan: thx
Agatha Macbeth pokes Blub
Agatha Macbeth: Well look on the bright side - nobody's shot Obama
Bruce Mowbray: Blub giggles at being poked.
Agatha Macbeth: Cute fish
Bruce Mowbray: I love Obama as much as I loved JFK -- and that does not bode well.
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe things have changed
Bruce Mowbray: We can surely hope.
Agatha Macbeth nods
Bruce Mowbray: That's the problem with "situational ethics...."
Bruce Mowbray: as long if it is MY ethic that comes out on top, all's well.
Bruce Mowbray: but what if the other guy also has a "situational" ethic?
Bruce Mowbray: Then, maybe murder works -- in his/her system... and "ethical."
Bruce Mowbray: Those are the ones that trouble me.
Agatha Macbeth: Battle of the situations
Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
Agatha Macbeth: Guess there is a tendancy for everyone to think their view is the 'right' one
Arisia Vita: Sagan had some nice words on that...rather long but here it is...
Arisia Vita: We kill each other, or threaten to kill each other, in part because we are afraid we might not ourselves know the truth, that someone else with a different doctrine might have a closer approximation to the truth. Our history is in part a battle to the death of inadequate myths. If I can't convince you, I must kill you. That will change your mind. You are a threat to my version of the truth, especially the truth about who I am and what my nature is. The thought that I may have dedicated my life to a lie, that I might have accepted a conventional wisdom that no longer, if it ever did, corresponds to the external reality, that is a very painful realization. I will tend to resist it to the last. I will go to almost any lengths to prevent myself from seeing that the worldview that I have dedicated my life to is inadequate. - Carl Sagan "The Varieties Of Scientific Experience"
Bruce Mowbray: Yes, and at the very beginning of this session, that's why I think my friend Byrd Helligas lied to the Warren Commission...
Agatha Macbeth: Cosmic Carl
Bruce Mowbray: or, at least, willfully withheld information from them.
Bruce Mowbray loves Carl.
Agatha Macbeth: Me too
Qt Core: nice
Agatha Macbeth: 'I must kill you. That will change your mind' -
Agatha Macbeth dies from laughing....
Arisia Vita: :)
Bruce Mowbray: Wonders if his typist's mind could be changed if someone murdered him.
Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
Agatha Macbeth: Remember what happened last time you did that Brucie
Agatha Macbeth: Oh man
Bruce Mowbray: I think it's happening again!
Arisia Vita: Bruce is enlightened
Arisia Vita: floating
Agatha Macbeth: At least you aren't under the fountain this time
Bruce Mowbray: I best look into "avatar health...."
Agatha Macbeth calls an ambulance
Arisia Vita: hope you can breathe
Agatha Macbeth: Wonder why it happens to you and not me?
Bruce Mowbray: Blub gets so upset when that happens.
Agatha Macbeth: Must be something to do with AOs
Bruce Mowbray: I don't think I'm wearing any AO's... but not sure.
Agatha Macbeth: They have a tendancy to hide sometimes
Qt Core: (sorry, got lost reading Jimmy Carter wiki page)
Agatha Macbeth: Why has Blubster stopped swimming?
Bruce Mowbray: My typist met Jinny Carter in 1976.
Bruce Mowbray: and has his autograph and a personal note from him.
Agatha Macbeth: You are certainly well connected Brucie
Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
Bruce Mowbray: Not really.
Bruce Mowbray: Actually, I'm a hermit.
Agatha Macbeth: Yes, a well-connected hermit
Bruce Mowbray: not JUNNY Carter -- JIMMY Carter.
Bruce Mowbray: sry.
Agatha Macbeth: Junny?
Qt Core: I always liked him as it was the first US president i understood what he was
Agatha Macbeth: Maybe you need a new KB too
Bruce Mowbray: ] Bruce Mowbray: My typist met Jinny Carter in 1976
Bruce Mowbray: Jinny -- not!
Agatha Macbeth: Oh Jinny
Agatha Macbeth: Sure there must be a Jinny Carter on FB
--BELL--1400
Bruce Mowbray: Just am trying an AO now -- but will be off for now.
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks, everyone.
Agatha Macbeth: Thank YOU Brucie
Zon Kwan: bye all
Agatha Macbeth: Scrape well
Bruce Mowbray: I shall!
Bruce Mowbray: Thanks!
Agatha Macbeth: Ah well
Agatha Macbeth: Looks like it's come to a natural end
Arisia Vita: yep, time to explore
Agatha Macbeth: I'll go and edit all these links...
Qt Core: bye all!
Arisia Vita: bye for a bit
Agatha Macbeth: Take care Ari
Agatha Macbeth: Ciao QT
Arisia Vita: u2
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