2013.11.21 13:00 - A well-connected Hermit

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.  I arrived ten minutes late to find Bruce and Zon already in attendance.

     

    Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
    Zon Kwan: hi bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Zon.
    Zon Kwan: how are you, and how is fish
    Bruce Mowbray: Fish is good. I'm confused as ever.
    Zon Kwan: lol
    Zon Kwan: its good to be always wondering
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm spent a lot of this day wondering why a close friend would lie to the Warren Commission.
    Bruce Mowbray: I've*
    Zon Kwan: who ?
    Bruce Mowbray: Just sent off a LONG email to Mickorod -- because he was wondering the same thing.
    Bruce Mowbray: My friend (who died in 2000) was the minister of the Unitarian Church in Dallas,
    Zon Kwan: what did he lie ?
    Bruce Mowbray: and apparently had spoken with Lee Harvey Oswald at length and privately. ..
    Bruce Mowbray: but that's not what he told the Warren Commission.
    Bruce Mowbray: He said he'd never talked to "Lee."
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello, made it after all...
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, aggers!
    Zon Kwan: what did he know ? what did he tell ?
    Zon Kwan: hi Agatha
    Bruce Mowbray: Ohhhh. It is SUCH a long story.
    Zon Kwan is all ears
    Bruce Mowbray: I maybe make a notecard of my letter to Mick and give that to you, though.
    Bruce Mowbray: I mean, if you're actually interested in the details.
    Zon Kwan: id be gald to hear it
    Bruce Mowbray: kk, let me get that together for you.
    Zon Kwan: yes please, send me if you can
    Bruce Mowbray: Meanwhile, I have also put up a web page about it, ---
    Bruce Mowbray: would it be all right to post the link for that here, aggers?
    Agatha Macbeth: So that's actually you in the crowd Bruce?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh sure
    Bruce Mowbray: kk, just a sec, please.
    Agatha Macbeth: No rush ;)
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, that was my typist, actually.
    --BELL--1315
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.hermitdog.com/JFK/Connecting%20Dots.htm
    Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera QT
    Qt Core: Hi Agatha, Zon, Bruce
    Agatha Macbeth: Brucie is just telling us about his JFK experiences...
    Zon Kwan: hi qt
    Zon Kwan: thanks bruce, ill read later
    Zon Kwan: waves
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Zon
    Qt Core: trying to imagine how it is there these day, here (talk) radios aren't speaking about anything else in last two days
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye Zon, Hello Qt!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, it seems to still be a big deal.
    Agatha Macbeth: Did some people really hate Kennedy that much?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, enough to murder him.
    Bruce Mowbray: I knew such people personally.
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Agatha Macbeth: They thought he was too soft on the communists?
    Bruce Mowbray: There were a lot of press items about that hatred...
    Bruce Mowbray: Oswald had an entirely different reason, though.
    Qt Core: for what i heard today almost all the military establishment hated him (as he tried to put the army under the civilian control (especially the nuclear weapons))
    Bruce Mowbray: Oswald was upset for how Kennedy was treating Cuba.
    Bruce Mowbray: trying to have Castro killed, and his govt. overthrown, etc.
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm, right
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, there were a lot of opponents of the JFK administration.
    Bruce Mowbray: I loved the guy, myself.
    Agatha Macbeth: I only know what I have read about him
    Qt Core: are some document about him and its death going to lose the top secret seal as 50 are gone ?
    Bruce Mowbray: perhaps.
    Bruce Mowbray: I doubt it, though.
    Agatha Macbeth: You can bet any top secret stuff will stay secret tho
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1...mpaign=curated
    Bruce Mowbray: afk for a sec.
    Agatha Macbeth: A lot to take in all at one go
    Bruce Mowbray: [back]
    Bruce Mowbray: OH! There is an ENORMOUS amount of print - and video - aggers.
    Bruce Mowbray: WAY too much even for the Warren Commission to handle, I think.
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, indeed
    Bruce Mowbray: DOZENS of books have been written about the assassination alone.
    Agatha Macbeth: Right
    Bruce Mowbray: and you have read a few of those, I think.
    Agatha Macbeth: I read Mark Lane's yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Rush to judgement
    Bruce Mowbray: I'd like to say something about that book in a minute...
    Agatha Macbeth: He certainly brings up some interesting points
    Bruce Mowbray: but first, since I'm tossing out web pages,
    Agatha Macbeth: OK
    Bruce Mowbray: here's one I put up yesterday -- about defacing my diploma from SMU
    Bruce Mowbray: (Southern Methodist University) - where the George W. Bush Presidential lkibrary is located:
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.hermitdog.com/JFK/Bush_library.htm
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.hermitdog.com/JFK/diploma_after.jpg
    --BELL--1330
    Agatha Macbeth: Does Bush have any special relationship with the place?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, his wife Laura graduated from there.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Bruce Mowbray: She came to the university as a freshman the year after I graduated: 1965 (for her) 1964 (for me)
    Bruce Mowbray: They have always kissed butt with the Bushes.
    Qt Core: nice answer... and on a cynical point of view... the university still get a library he only name it, he don't choose the books (i hope) ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Bruce Mowbray: I suspect it's the only library that he'll ever go into.
    Agatha Macbeth: Would be interesting to see the titles of them if he did!
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.bushcenter.org/sites/defa...20%20FINAL.pdf
    Agatha Macbeth: Someone has to run a country I suppose
    Arisia Vita: 's current display-name is "Ari".
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, ari!
    Arisia Vita: greetings my friends
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ari dear
    Qt Core: Hi Ari
    Bruce Mowbray: as you can tell, I'm not a "W" admirer.
    Agatha Macbeth: Glad to see you are still blue
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.bushcenter.org/
    Arisia Vita: yes, but Delvian today :)
    Arisia Vita: from Farscape
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh!
    Bruce Mowbray: No hair!
    Arisia Vita: right
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh I used to watch that
    Arisia Vita: Delvians seek for enlightenment through helping others.
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that the one with Claudia Black in it?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes I liked it a it a lot for a while
    Arisia Vita: yes, but she was not Delvian as far as I know
    Bruce Mowbray: tried to recall where he's heard of Claudia Black -- book on co-dependency?
    Agatha Macbeth: No, Australian (but close)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm, she's an actress Brucie
    Bruce Mowbray: oh. sry.
    Agatha Macbeth: Dunno if she writes
    Bruce Mowbray: different gal.
    Agatha Macbeth: Mm probably
    Arisia Vita: Zhaan was played by Virginia Hey
    Agatha Macbeth: This one's an Aussie
    Agatha Macbeth: She was in Pitch Dark with Vin Diesel
    Agatha Macbeth: The first Riddick film
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.pivot.tv/shows/farscape/e...FclQOgodH3UA1g
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow, that's been a while now, about 2000
    Bruce Mowbray: I'd never heard of it before --- will look further itno it.
    Bruce Mowbray: Don't get cable TV way out here, but might be able to download some episodes on the Web.
    Agatha Macbeth: Diverted us away from Geoerge W at least!
    Arisia Vita: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: *George
    Bruce Mowbray: yes!
    Bruce Mowbray: mercifully.
    Agatha Macbeth: (I must change this KB)
    Bruce Mowbray: sticky KB, aggers?
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we should build a library here named after Pema ;)
    Agatha Macbeth: Nah, just old I think
    Agatha Macbeth: Letters have worn off
    Bruce Mowbray: We could buld a library of Pema's books, videos, and on-line offerings!
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Bruce Mowbray: Just GOOGLE Piet Hut and see what comes up!
    Agatha Macbeth: Works for me
    Agatha Macbeth: Trouble is too many prims probably
    Bruce Mowbray: https://www.google.com/webhp?source=...t+Hut&safe=off
    Agatha Macbeth: People will get lost with all these links heh
    Agatha Macbeth: Certainly plenty of reading matter
    Agatha Macbeth: WB Zon
    --BELL--1345
    Bruce Mowbray: wb, Zon!
    Zon Kwan: thx
    Agatha Macbeth pokes Blub
    Agatha Macbeth: Well look on the bright side - nobody's shot Obama
    Bruce Mowbray: Blub giggles at being poked.
    Agatha Macbeth: Cute fish
    Bruce Mowbray: I love Obama as much as I loved JFK -- and that does not bode well.
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe things have changed
    Bruce Mowbray: We can surely hope.
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Bruce Mowbray: That's the problem with "situational ethics...."
    Bruce Mowbray: as long if it is MY ethic that comes out on top, all's well.
    Bruce Mowbray: but what if the other guy also has a "situational" ethic?
    Bruce Mowbray: Then, maybe murder works -- in his/her system... and "ethical."
    Bruce Mowbray: Those are the ones that trouble me.
    Agatha Macbeth: Battle of the situations
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Guess there is a tendancy for everyone to think their view is the 'right' one
    Arisia Vita: Sagan had some nice words on that...rather long but here it is...
    Arisia Vita: We kill each other, or threaten to kill each other, in part because we are afraid we might not ourselves know the truth, that someone else with a different doctrine might have a closer approximation to the truth. Our history is in part a battle to the death of inadequate myths. If I can't convince you, I must kill you. That will change your mind. You are a threat to my version of the truth, especially the truth about who I am and what my nature is. The thought that I may have dedicated my life to a lie, that I might have accepted a conventional wisdom that no longer, if it ever did, corresponds to the external reality, that is a very painful realization. I will tend to resist it to the last. I will go to almost any lengths to prevent myself from seeing that the worldview that I have dedicated my life to is inadequate. - Carl Sagan "The Varieties Of Scientific Experience"
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, and at the very beginning of this session, that's why I think my friend Byrd Helligas lied to the Warren Commission...
    Agatha Macbeth: Cosmic Carl
    Bruce Mowbray: or, at least, willfully withheld information from them.
    Bruce Mowbray loves Carl.
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too
    Qt Core: nice
    Agatha Macbeth: 'I must kill you. That will change your mind' -
    Agatha Macbeth dies from laughing....
    Arisia Vita: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Wonders if his typist's mind could be changed if someone murdered him.
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    Agatha Macbeth: Remember what happened last time you did that Brucie
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh man

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    Bruce Mowbray: I think it's happening again!
    Arisia Vita: Bruce is enlightened
    Arisia Vita: floating
    Agatha Macbeth: At least you aren't under the fountain this time
    Bruce Mowbray: I best look into "avatar health...."
    Agatha Macbeth calls an ambulance
    Arisia Vita: hope you can breathe
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonder why it happens to you and not me?
    Bruce Mowbray: Blub gets so upset when that happens.
    Agatha Macbeth: Must be something to do with AOs
    Bruce Mowbray: I don't think I'm wearing any AO's... but not sure.
    Agatha Macbeth: They have a tendancy to hide sometimes
    Qt Core: (sorry, got lost reading Jimmy Carter wiki page)
    Agatha Macbeth: Why has Blubster stopped swimming?
    Bruce Mowbray: My typist met Jinny Carter in 1976.
    Bruce Mowbray: and has his autograph and a personal note from him.
    Agatha Macbeth: You are certainly well connected Brucie
    Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
    Bruce Mowbray: Not really.
    Bruce Mowbray: Actually, I'm a hermit.
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, a well-connected hermit
    Bruce Mowbray: not JUNNY Carter -- JIMMY Carter.
    Bruce Mowbray: sry.
    Agatha Macbeth: Junny?
    Qt Core: I always liked him as it was the first US president i understood what he was
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe you need a new KB too
    Bruce Mowbray: ] Bruce Mowbray: My typist met Jinny Carter in 1976
    Bruce Mowbray: Jinny -- not!
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh Jinny
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure there must be a Jinny Carter on FB
    --BELL--1400
    Bruce Mowbray: Just am trying an AO now -- but will be off for now.
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks, everyone.
    Agatha Macbeth: Thank YOU Brucie
    Zon Kwan: bye all
    Agatha Macbeth: Scrape well
    Bruce Mowbray: I shall!
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks!
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah well
    Agatha Macbeth: Looks like it's come to a natural end
    Arisia Vita: yep, time to explore
    Agatha Macbeth: I'll go and edit all these links...
    Qt Core: bye all!
    Arisia Vita: bye for a bit
    Agatha Macbeth: Take care Ari
    Agatha Macbeth: Ciao QT
    Arisia Vita: u2

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